Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder

[Rosemary Ainslie]

My link to OU.com keeps timing out - so I'm making good while this seems to hold.

Guys - again - Please anyone with enough patience please open these again.  I will definitely get around this learning curve tomorrow - ... later today!  Apologies for the imposition.  Explanation of the schematics follow.

Rosemary

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Still very tenuous link here. I hope it survives this post.

THE CONCEPT

The first schematic is intended to address conventional understanding of current flow.  There are two schools of thought.  The one has it that in a lead acid battery the flow is from the cathode to the anode and vice versa for the other.  I am entirely indifferent to either school.  All I'm trying to show here is that if current flow is anticlockwise then the recharge cycle would be clockwise and vice versa - regardless of the battery 'type'. 

The second schematic was tricky.  I had to illustrate that in using alkaline and acid batteries in series - effectively the anode of the alkaline would be on a shared rail with the cathode of the acid battery.  But the diode arrangements, as illustrated, effectively put the two batteries in parallel - i think... 

In any event - here's the sequence assuming that current flows from postive to negative.  Switches work in antiphase.  Alkaline is open.  Current flows from the acid through the diode to the postive of the alkaline back to the cathode of the acid.  The acid battery switch then opens.  The alkaline battery switch closes.  Now the flow goes from the cathode of the alkaline to the anode of the acid.  In both cycles the theoretical indications are that it recharges - step one the alkaline - step two the acid. 

Still to be resolved.

- It may require a doubling of the battery supply during the on phase of each cycle to ensure that there's enough voltage to overreach the resistance in the recharging battery during each cycle.  For example - during the on phase of the lead acid - 24 volts are accessed to supply 12 volts at the alkaline battery and vice versa.   

- Not sure of the ideal position of a load.  AC requirements would be satisified if the load were positioned on the shared negative rail which, as illustrated - is the acid battery's cathode in series with the Alkaline battery's anode.  Provided always that there is some equitable load distribution during both cycles then the amount of energy available to recharge would be the same in both cycles.  This would need to be establised somehow.

- Fine tuning of the circuit and switches to enable this.  One may need to establish a current flow that is optimally required to recharge.

- Fine tuning of any inductance on the circuit that may be required to assist in this effect.

- The required alkaline battery would need to be the same capacity as the lead acid and such are NOT currently available. 

All this is based on the 'proof of concept' established in the earlier tests and described in two papers.  This proves that energy dissipated can exceed the amount of energy delivered.  Effectively - energy dissipated on a circuit is not sourced from the energy supplied through current flow else there would be evidence of equivalence.

The purpose of this new circuit is to establish some means of conserving charge that is not restricted to the transistor values.  What is available on the market is insufficient for realistic applications and this circuit is intended to 'assist', supplement, or entirely replace the need for the MOSFET switch. 

It still requires some experimentation to establish proof of concept.  But, thus far, it seems to be theoretically feasible.

Rosemary
http://www.scribd.com/aetherevarising

[rensseak]

For Rosi,   

My link to OU.com keeps timing out - so I'm making good while this seems to hold.

Guys - again - Please anyone with enough patience please open these again.  I will definitely get around this learning curve tomorrow - ... later today!  Apologies for the imposition.  Explanation of the schematics follow.

Rosemary

I'M TAKING THE LIBERTY OF EDITING THIS NORBERT.  HOPEFULLY YOU WON'T OBJECT.  JUST TO ADD THAT THE PROPOSED BATTERY TO BE USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH LEAD ACID IS NICKLE METAL HYDRIDE. 

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Still very tenuous link here. I hope it survives this post.

THE CONCEPT

The first schematic is intended to address conventional understanding of current flow.  There are two schools of thought.  The one has it that in a lead acid battery the flow is from the cathode to the anode and vice versa for the other.  I am entirely indifferent to either school.  All I'm trying to show here is that if current flow is anticlockwise then the recharge cycle would be clockwise and vice versa - regardless of the battery 'type'. 

The second schematic was tricky.  I had to illustrate that in using alkaline and acid batteries in series - effectively the anode of the alkaline would be on a shared rail with the cathode of the acid battery.  But the diode arrangements, as illustrated, effectively put the two batteries in parallel - i think... 

In any event - here's the sequence assuming that current flows from postive to negative.  Switches work in antiphase.  Alkaline is open.  Current flows from the acid through the diode to the postive of the alkaline back to the cathode of the acid.  The acid battery switch then opens.  The alkaline battery switch closes.  Now the flow goes from the cathode of the alkaline to the anode of the acid.  In both cycles the theoretical indications are that it recharges - step one the alkaline - step two the acid. 

Still to be resolved.

- It may require a doubling of the battery supply during the on phase of each cycle to ensure that there's enough voltage to overreach the resistance in the recharging battery during each cycle.  For example - during the on phase of the lead acid - 24 volts are accessed to supply 12 volts at the alkaline battery and vice versa.   

- Not sure of the ideal position of a load.  AC requirements would be satisified if the load were positioned on the shared negative rail which, as illustrated - is the acid battery's cathode in series with the Alkaline battery's anode.  Provided always that there is some equitable load distribution during both cycles then the amount of energy available to recharge would be the same in both cycles.  This would need to be establised somehow.

- Fine tuning of the circuit and switches to enable this.  One may need to establish a current flow that is optimally required to recharge.

- Fine tuning of any inductance on the circuit that may be required to assist in this effect.

- The required alkaline battery would need to be the same capacity as the lead acid and such are NOT currently available. 

All this is based on the 'proof of concept' established in the earlier tests and described in two papers.  This proves that energy dissipated can exceed the amount of energy delivered.  Effectively - energy dissipated on a circuit is not sourced from the energy supplied through current flow else there would be evidence of equivalence.

The purpose of this new circuit is to establish some means of conserving charge that is not restricted to the transistor values.  What is available on the market is insufficient for realistic applications and this circuit is intended to 'assist', supplement, or entirely replace the need for the MOSFET switch. 

It still requires some experimentation to establish proof of concept.  But, thus far, it seems to be theoretically feasible.

Rosemary
http://www.scribd.com/aetherevarising

Just to get it onto the same page.

Norbert,  Many thanks indeed for your help here. 
Kindest regards,
Rosie

[rensseak]

Just to get it onto the same page.

Norbert,  Many thanks indeed for your help here. 
Kindest regards,
Rosie

Hello Rosemary,
You are wellcome. And yes you are right, later i also tought it might be better together with you next post. Next time I respect that.

sincerely
Norbert