Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder

[Omnibus]

@ashtweth_nihilisti,

I wonder why are you so much emphasizing on the scope? Scope should be the least of your worries once you have proper probes and once you understand the intricacies of the data processing. So, let's start with the probes -- what are they and what are you actually measuring? Here in this forum there are some pretty sophisticated participants and it will be a good idea to post the schematics under study and the details as to how you actually do the measurements so that we can hear some competent input. I have already expressed this opinion, and I'll say it again, measurements are the only part of this project worth considering and they have to be done right.

I, for one, would be willing to do some study on the board you said you can donate. I have a Tektronix DPO 2024, a Hall effect based current probe and four passive voltage probes that come with the scope. On the side of equipment the voltage probes are the weakest link. I've discussed that extensively in the Steorn thread and I'll keep discussing it. However, there's another problem which I found to be of even greater significance -- the data processing -- which seems to be overlooked. No wonder, as I already said in the Steorn thread, it is highly uncommon, if not absent altogether, for academics to carry out the power measurements we're talking about. I found out that academics in prestigious universities will not touch such measurements with a ten foot pole. So, the expectations that academics will embrace these studies does not seem realistic. These studies have to be carried out, however, and, like I said, we should give them some more thought here.

[Pirate88179]

Please dont do that to Glen he certainty does not deserve that, he is under some stress  so lets all try and remember who's side we are on.



Ash

First, I am not on anyone's "side". 

Second, don't do what to Glen?  He is the one pm'ing everyone about another forum member behind their backs saying terrible things and as a PI, I do recognize underhanded tactics when I see them.  As I said before, this does not help his case at all, whatever his case may or may not be.

Also, no offense intended, but what part of "Glen please do not pm me ever again" has anything to do with you?

This is supposed to be open source and if pm'ing behind some member's back is part of the open source creed, I would like to see where that is written.

Again, no offense intended but I was not directing any of my posted comments at you.

Bill

***EDIT***

I read Omni's simultaneous post above mine and what he is saying here makes a lot of sense to me.  For whatever that is worth.

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

Hi Bill i spoke to Glen, and saw the PM's its valid tuning advice for what its worth, drop me a mail or read Glen's Pm it wil help.
glad to be back on topic.,

Ash

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

@ashtweth_nihilisti,

I wonder why are you so much emphasizing on the scope? Scope should be the least of your worries once you have proper probes and once you understand the intricacies of the data processing. So, let's start with the probes -- what are they and what are you actually measuring? Here in this forum there are some pretty sophisticated participants and it will be a good idea to post the schematics under study and the details as to how you actually do the measurements so that we can hear some competent input. I have already expressed this opinion, and I'll say it again, measurements are the only part of this project worth considering and they have to be done right.

I, for one, would be willing to do some study on the board you said you can donate. I have a Tektronix DPO 2024, a Hall effect based current probe and four passive voltage probes that come with the scope. On the side of equipment the voltage probes are the weakest link. I've discussed that extensively in the Steorn thread and I'll keep discussing it. However, there's another problem which I found to be of even greater significance -- the data processing -- which seems to be overlooked. No wonder, as I already said in the Steorn thread, it is highly uncommon, if not absent altogether, for academics to carry out the power measurements we're talking about. I found out that academics in prestigious universities will not touch such measurements with a ten foot pole. So, the expectations that academics will embrace these studies does not seem realistic. These studies have to be carried out, however, and, like I said, we should give them some more thought here.

Hi Omnibus , yes i forgot to add probes and Data logging capacity, its been a long night . Rose has the IEEE paper in her scribid site with scope shots/schemo's and measurements or its in Glen's sky drive or the Panacea university document (archived a lot of post there). Its a very simple and easy circuit to put together, if you cannot put it together and check out let me know the board is yours for research reports. Glad to be making some progress.

Ash

[Omnibus]

Do you have a link where the paper can be downloaded from as a pdf document? Reading from Skribd is not the most convenient occupation.