The downfalls of conventional electrolysis - and how to fix them

[LtBolo]

So you put some wire on a tube, Woody. Congratulations.

If you had actually built something...and by that I mean everything including electronics...what you would find is that the inductance is so high that you will have a very difficult time pushing any real power into the coil. Which is not to say that it won't work, just that you have to go to higher voltages...which complicates things.

When I hear that 17MHz was used with this type of coil, I'm a little concerned. With 800 turns, the inductance would be at least milli-henries. If my math is correct, at 17Mhz into 1mH you would have to be using nearly 1000v to get the current high enough to push 5 watts. At 10mH, it would be more like 2200v. In a pulsed DC mode that's not the easiest feat. Now that I think about it, we designed a CCFL driver circuit that would push about 5 watts at high voltage. Maybe I'll break that one out and see what it does.

Please understand, I'm not saying it doesn't work. I am saying that contrary to assertions, it isn't as easy as suggested.

And yes, Chet, this is what folks like me do for a living. Every day. I'm a degreed EE with about 20 years industry experience. I run an electronics design and manufacturing company with 22 employees. That experience gives me a pretty good nose for stuff, and this smells a little funny. Not rotten, but definitely a little funny.

I agree that Kansius proved something is possible and until that has been replicated via magnetic induction and the power levels evaluated, there remains hope of the viability.

[ramset]

LTbolo
Sorry for being Facetious With that crack!

Just seemed like you were throwin in the towel too soon!
And besides that, the few comments you are making now ,are sheading more understanding on this.
Problems always make one reflect ,
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LTbolo
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Now that I think about it, we designed a CCFL driver circuit that would push about 5 watts at high voltage. Maybe I'll break that one out and see what it does.
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Thank you

Chet

[LtBolo]

Throwing in the towel? Not exactly.

This isn't a hobby for me. This is how I make a living for myself and everyone who works for me. I really don't have the luxury of playing with this. If there is something that works, I very much want to investigate it and determine if there is a productizable technology here. I hope that is the case.

I've tried a few obvious things and didn't have a good result. That tells me that it is more difficult than portrayed. Hopefully others will have better luck. If so, I'll jump back in.

[StihlWoody]

OK, so according to Tesla, you can pass millions of volts through a wire as fine as a human hair at such low amperages as to not burn it out.

Somehow, maybe it's possible to use multiple stages of ignition style coils to provide a continuous electron flow?

Or should I look into a Tesla Coil to get the voltages?

If I look on Ebay, I find Tesla Coil Primary Windings built EXACTLY like the tube I built.

Could be something there?

And LTbolo...

In case again you didn't read, I mentioned that I still need to build the driver circuit.  I think over-building it would be ideal, something like using them 1000 volt, 400 Amp Toshiba IGBT units?

Not sure if it can handle the frequencies, because they are used in MRI machines, they should go pretty fast, but no guarantee there...

StihlWoody

[LtBolo]

Yes Woody I have read your posts. You attack me in them, you criticize my motives in them, you assert that I am lazy in them, and you pontificate in them. The only thing that you don't do in them, is talk about actual replication attempts.

Why don't you do something and then talk about it, and leave me alone. I'm not your enemy, I'm just a guy trying make a living and hopefully help somebody along the way.