The downfalls of conventional electrolysis - and how to fix them

[oswaldonfire]

The largest - surface area. How do we fix that? What substance contains more surface area than anything else? What can you do to a conventional electrode to increase the surface area - say from a few square inches - to several thousand yards - in less than a few cubic inches of space? The answer to this question will eventually lead you to extremely efficient electrolysis... and yes, overunity. Think outside the box - way outside. It is incredibly simple, yet I only know a few people who have done it.

[dasimpson]

steel wool lol

or stainless steel racing tank

[oswaldonfire]

Steel wool would have a lot of area, but not enough. It's not what we're after.

And a racing tank will not have thousands of yards of surface area.

HINT - think microscopic.

[atlantex]

maybe a lot of tiny steel balls in the container.

there is a structure in a car excaust catalyst which hast such dimensions, but its not made of any useable material for our needs, as fas as i know until now...

[oswaldonfire]

You're getting a little closer, but still not there.

You're both thinking MACROSCOPIC - we want MICROSCOPIC.

Can you think of a system in which the electrodes are so small, it will be nearly impossible to get power to them? I can.

Which has more surface area: a bucket of peas, a bucket of rice, or a bucket of granulated sugar? As the particle sizes decrease, surface area increases - an inverse relationship. What states that we must stop at the size of granulated sugar? Think smaller!

Another problem with conventional electrolysis - gasses building up on the plates. If we solve the above problem, we also solve this problem. There will not be large enough "flat" spots for bubbles to collect on.