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The downfalls of conventional electrolysis - and how to fix them

Started by oswaldonfire, July 20, 2010, 11:30:31 AM

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Gwandau

iquant and everybody going for tests in this intriguing area of HHO generation,

PLEASE DO NOT GET LOST IN PARTICULARS.

IT IS ALL ABOUT RESONANCE.

Both sonoluminescence and cavitation are the direct result of vibrations resonating all the way down to the atomic level.

Even HHO production in ordinary electrolysis is induced at the Planck scale by atomic resonance effects.

Do not get too hung up on contemporary electrochemical explanations of electrolysis.

Those explanations will in a near future be regarded as misleading and totally off the track.

The more energy used in creating HHO, the less important are the settings, since the abundance of electric
and electromagnetic fields created will INEVITABLY hit the resonating target somewhere by the pure overdose.

Conventional electrolysis is such an overdose method.

The trick is to strike the correct relative value of vibration corresponding to the value of vibration that are
keeping the H2O molecules together.

The wavelength and frequency has to relate to the dimensional values of the target material, in this case H2O.

By creating this resonance we will simply open the door with a key instead of forcing it open with brute energy overdose.

Fred Wells creates 59 litres HHO per minute by employing the correct distance between the electrodes in regard
to the frequency of the pulse expressed in his HHO-cell.

No matter what method we will chose, with or without metal electrodes, with or without NaOH, it is all about resonance.

This resonance may be achieved by ultrasonic methods, or by PWM:s, or by correct frequency of ANY vibrational source.

SO PLEASE DO NOT GET LOST IN PARTICULARS.

If anyone else here have reached the same understanding as I, please contact me and let's arrange an organised series
of tests this winter. As a product developer I am well aware of the massive series of initial tests needed to even
begin to understand the basic parameters of resonance at the molecular and atomic level.

gwandau@hotmail.com



iquant

You are missing the point and the approach:  I'm talking closed cell H2 production (No O).
SWAG and brute force can only take you so far...  Lets get the science, chemistry and particulars right.
Identify experiments to hash out grey areas of our present knowledge, theories and understandings.
This isn't rocket science...  Simple repeatable experiments so all can validate and move forward together one step at a time. 

Quote from: Gwandau on November 12, 2010, 04:08:33 PM
iquant and everybody going for tests in this intriguing area of HHO generation,

PLEASE DO NOT GET LOST IN PARTICULARS.


Gwandau

iquant,

I'm probably using the word "particulars" wrong, since this isn't my native language.

And I'm in no way opposing your suggestions and ideas.

I just wan't to emphasize that it all boils down to resonance.

Closed cell H2 production or whatever road you want to take, it's all the same basic event behind it.

Resonance isn't a small niche in the physics of our universe, it one of the main characteristic of matter.

I´m sorry if this sounds like rocket science, since I want to keep it as simple as possible, but ordinary
chemistry and electromagnetic science is not enough when entering this area of experiments.

Conventional science will only be in your way here. If low energy production of H2 or/and O was explainable
by common science, it would have been known to science long ago.

We have to think outside the box here.

That was really all I wanted to say.

Gwandau

ramset

iquant
you rollin up the sleeves??

Where are you going to focus? any ideas?
I would like to try also?
Have a few extra dollars coming in soon[for materials and equipment] ,and I hope some time to play!

Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

sergenet


What would happen if we come up with a variable frequency crystal oscillator and insert the crystal in water and vary the frequency up and down a vast range of frequencies? Will the crystal vibrations cause any water molecules to break up? Any thoughts? I do also believe that vibrations is the answer to the solution of electrolysis. The entire universe is based on and sustained by vibrations. A very low input power to achieve what currently requires a great energy expenditure (conventional electrolysis).