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Stan Meyer's "Non-Electrolysis" method

Started by HeairBear, December 22, 2007, 03:13:36 PM

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haithar

Quote from: OscarMeyer on January 02, 2009, 02:15:21 PM
I took your lead and googled Kanzius.  He is extracting hydogen on demand from ordinary sea water.  He is not even electrofying the water or in other words, using a conventional electrollisis method with the radio waves.   Radio waves alone are enough to liberate the hydrogen.

The only problem is, the efficiency is only around 70 percent in comparison to Faraday's equations.

Now, I will just bet that you can produce a radio signal with less electricity than the machine this guy was using.
well he is putting the hydrogen tank inside his radio wave machine and then back out and the water can be burned. not everything is converted to hydrogen directly and he is not applying energy over the whole time.

where do you got your 70 percent from?

CompuTutor

The focus here seems to be on mixing
ultrasonic sound vibrations with a
standing voltage to perform the work,
but the story doesn't seem to end there.

Once liberated, the effect of vibration
still continues on the gases themselves.

Here is an example of what I mean:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUPE0Z9V82E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE9cUgPdA_s
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Ohmasa_Gas_by_Japan_Techno_Co.%2C_Ltd.

Although Stanley used piezo elements
on the bottom of all of his tubes.

It may not have been only for the split,
but to condition the pairing afterwards.

The notch out of the outer pipe's top edge
like on a church's pipe organ's pipes to tune it
would raise the pitch to match the inners pipe's
naturally higher pitched resonance.

Thus making them a resonant cavity
where the gases are pairing off.

Please note that unlike the unstable gas pairs
from plain brute-force Faraday electrolysis
that seek to equalize with vengence,
and will explode when compressed.

The above gas can be stored, and the Hydrogen
doesn't leach through the storage container's walls.



Here is an explaination I bumped into.
Credit: Michael R. Himes

I think the hydrogen oxygen bond at nano scale
is augmented by sodium in the transition between
water and the Ohmasa Gas formation.
The electrolyte bond with hydroxyl is broken
at the gas formation boundary and retained
by the gas molecules because of the
nano sized bubbles affinity and charge polarity
at the transition to a gas.
A mass spectrum of the Gas may produce evidence
of hydroxyl in the Gas molecules equally bonded
to hydrogen and oxygen.
A check of the Ph of the water in the exhaust
would give an elevated acid level if this were true.
The increased molecular size may account for
stable storage because the container will not permit
passage of this large a molecule.