vetting god

[wings]

vetting god with the mind impossible! , you can just feel the fear of immense space

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsd2WJfplKk&feature=player_embedded#!

[ramset]

Wilby
Quote:
if you have some material evidence or a logical proof, great! present it.
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                                                So Chetty mentioned
                                               "THE PLACEBO EFFECT"
                                                 also known as FAITH

This I offer once again as an example of  a higher power working through his creation.

God will Honor the Faith of a heathen

It s quite amazing what we can do if we "BELIEVE"

Nothing to do with religion.

Placebo is no "VOODO"

ITS FACT, in E V E R Y  medical research study, where they have to evaluate
actual results.

They address PLACEBO EFFECT

What part of this "DO" you understand ?
I present Evidence
A documented ANOMALY

Chet

E;Tu btutemous  P.U.D.
show me those pretty "CAPS"

[WilbyInebriated]

Wilby
Quote:
if you have some material evidence or a logical proof, great! present it.
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                                                So Chetty mentioned
                                               "THE PLACEBO EFFECT"
                                                 also known as FAITH

This I offer once again as an example of  a higher power working through his creation.

God will Honor the Faith of a heathen

It s quite amazing what we can do if we "BELIEVE"

Nothing to do with religion.

Placebo is no "VOODO"

ITS FACT, in E V E R Y  medical research study, where they have to evaluate
actual results.

They address PLACEBO EFFECT

What part of this "DO" you understand ?
I present Evidence
A documented ANOMALY

Chet

E;Tu btutemous  P.U.D.
show me those pretty "CAPS"

this is not material evidence, nor is it a logical proof. a documented anomaly doesn't qualify as material evidence of god anymore than tenbatsu's DMT is material evidence of a 'spirit molecule'... non sequitur. IT DOES NOT FOLLOW.

chetty, it is more than obvious you wish to be a cheerleader and not a player, at least do yourself the favor of learning what a cogent argument is and how to apply logic and reason. learning about the various fallacies, non sequitur, etc. would also serve you well...

[ramset]

Wilby ,
Maybe your right !
I don't understand! I see "the placebo effect" as logical proof.

That's my reality ,not yours! [yet].

So ...........
You have an explanation for the worlds most documented example of the closest thing you can get, next to a slap on the head from the creator himself?

Just how physical does your example have to be to meet the criteria of this thread?

The physical effects connected with "The placebo effect"[Faith],

Boggle the mind!!

Chetty
Oh , sorry
I'm done [that slow thing again]

[WilbyInebriated]

chetty... you make me laugh

from your hallowed wiki:
Placebo effect, the tendency of any medication or treatment, even an inert or ineffective one, to exhibit results simply because the recipient believes that it will work.

now lets apply some logic starting with the definition of placebo effect. "...simply because the recipient BELIEVES that it will work." why do they believe it will work? because they don't know it's a sugar pill (inert)... and the non-sugar pill they took before DID work. now, let us take the case of 'near beer' and someone who has never before drank 'real beer' but has seen its effects (MATERIAL EVIDENCE) on others. if they drink the 'near beer' under the ASSUMPTION that it is 'real beer' they might experience the placebo effect, but what do you think will happen if they are told it is inert prior to consumption? are you suggesting the placebo effect occurs if the recipient KNOWS it's a sugar pill?

let us take a look at your hallowed wiki's definition of faith which is a subset of belief:
faith, a belief "not resting on logical proof or material evidence."
it should be clear now why it DOES NOT FOLLOW.

now go google 'logical fallacies' and 'non sequitur' and stop asking me to hold you by the hand and educate you...