Adsitt Spiral + Gravity Generator?

[_GonZo_]

Liberty, let me ask you about that motor,

If you do not feed it with 1,5W does it still keeps turning?

Or if it needs that power to run is it posible that you attach a little generator at one of the ends and feed the motor with the power generated by it self and it keeps turning?

If the answer to both questions is no then you just have reinvented a electric motor. no overunity sorry.
The motor just needs energy to turn... even if it is only a fraction of a mW...

Think that there is already electric motors in the market (I use them every day at my job) with eficiency over 95%

[Liberty]

Hi GonZo,

Yes, this device does need some power to run and won't run without it.  I think that I could run it on less power perhaps, but it is already pretty low consumption.  The prototype is approx. a 6" rotor using a standard copper half inch water pipe for it's axle on standard steel bearings.  (For perspective).  I measured the current and voltage with a digital meter.  I suppose it would be average or rms reading. 

Never the less, I have not incorporated a small alternator on the motor at this time, so I can't answer whether it is self running yet.  It's too early to tell.  I hope the final design will be capable of this and then some.  My honest impression is that I think the speed/torque from even the first prototype is probably capable of providing the needed power to run the device (after it is started), but it is at this time, untested (not having an alternator built in) and therefore I do not call it a self-runner, just a motor.   I do plan to add a small alternator after I make some refinements to improve the motor's performance.  It either will or won't run itself.  Being self running should be the ultimate test I would think to put it in the class of an overunity device.  I agree with you and think that adding the ability to generate power will be the test for the device to pass next (after refinements).

You might be right.  It might just be another motor (but all inventors in this area face this possiblity on failure).  This is a work in progress (and on hold till I move), so at this point, it is unknown whether the device is truly overunity...  But I would have to say that I am very encouraged at this point from what I see.  It would certainly seem worthy of continuing development at this point.  I made the device for myself and have really enjoyed working on it.  It has been a lot of fun so far learning about magnets and how they can be utilized to do work for you.

[_GonZo_]

Good, experiment.

As generator you can use a small toy electric motor those have an eficiency around 60% that you can have in acount when doing calculations.

You do not need to feed the motor with the energy generated by this little toy motor just make electric energy run throw a bulb or a resistor and use a voltmeter and ampmeter to mesure.

OK now when you atach this little generator will create a load on your motor, then you will notice that your motor will need more energy (W) to turn at the same speed as before.

Doing the calculations after ataching the generator you will notice that the energy generated by system is around a 60% of the extra energy splied to the motor to make it tur at the same speed as before. (The other 40% extra energy you are suplying is lost in the generator)

[JackH]

Hello jake,

Jake after talking to you today on the phone, I think I have you figured out now.   You are a true non-beleiver and no mater what you see or here will ever change that.   I would prefure not to have you working with me on a project that you do not beleive in.  I guess I am just funney that way.

Now I have a electro magnetic valve that will pickup and hold 1,200 lbs of weight, using only 8 watts of continous dc power.  All you need to do to drop the weight is turn off the 8 watts of dc power.   Now if you would look in your physics books on this subject, I'm sure that thay will tell you that it is impossable.

Overunity is simply more out than in.

In my case I don't beleive that I am creating overunity, simply because I am using the energy of the magnets along with a small amount of electrical energy to create power out.   I do however think I can provide free energy with this project.

Jake you say that you always keep an open mind, however your messages here prove differently.

Liberty I think you really have something going on here, please do not give up.  I am verry happy for you and hope you all the success you deserve.

Later,,,,,JackH

[jake]

Jack,

Thanks for talking the time to talk with me.  I enjoyed the conversation tremendously.

Jake