Late Harvest Moon

[Thaelin]

   Would a copy of the 1935 navigation tables for mariners and aviators bear any info to this?  Found this sweet puppy in a junk store for $2. Too darn bad I cant read it for what its worth.

thay

[fritznien]

   Would a copy of the 1935 navigation tables for mariners and aviators bear any info to this?  Found this sweet puppy in a junk store for $2. Too darn bad I cant read it for what its worth.

thay

for anyone that can navigate by the stars could use it to verify that not only the sun but the stars are all in place.
until tech comes up with real data on how much things are supposed to have shifted its just people panic mongering.
in summer my days get up to 16 hours, night 8.
where should i see sunrise and sunset?
i could make a simple astro globe and measure the suns elevation above the horizon but why bother when it would mean nothing to tech.
fritznien

[TechStuf]

until tech comes up with real data on how much things are supposed to have shifted its just people panic mongering.

fritznien, you are certainly free to believe as you wish.  The information I have provided doesn't meet your criteria as evidence for an important and sobering reason....

It is easier to default to false hopes rather than employ one's higher thought processes to impending inescapable conclusions.

The facts are, and they are simple ones, the tropic of capricorn marked the northern extreme of the sun's declination for thousands of years, it doesn't today.  Not by a long shot.  The northern limit of the moon' declination was 28 1/2 degrees north for thousands of years.  It is regularly witnessed to move much further north today.

So please forgive me if I don't acquiesce to your rather mundane declaration of "panic mongering".

If anyone is "panic mongering", it is the government in collusion with bankers and the cwhoreporate media who unfailingly sling hashed up reports on war, threat of war, death, disease, and the world economy nearing freefall....etc. etc...like a "panic buffet" to giant LCD flat screens in living rooms around the world. 

No, I say that if one has his heart and mind in the Right place, the Truthful message I share is one of absolute Joy that these things are nearing their permanent end, exactly on schedule and as foretold!

So, I see it as Joy mongering.   However, those who have lived unrepentant debauched lives, who mock God, and refuse to see that these signs offer an opportunity for one to offer sincere and heartfelt repentance, and act appropriately.....

These may reserve their faithlessly juvenile right to revert to animal instinct and panic at any time. Over this Truthful message or any number of other 'news' stories of this late hour.

For the moment, freedom of choice still exists, battered and bruised, though it may be.

For your own sakes, dear readers, and the sakes of your loved ones, choose wisely.


Act Positively.



Blessings in Christ Yeshua

[Bubba1]

The facts are, and they are simple ones, the tropic of capricorn marked the northern extreme of the sun's declination for thousands of years, it doesn't today.  Not by a long shot.  The northern limit of the moon' declination was 28 1/2 degrees north for thousands of years.  It is regularly witnessed to move much further north today.

Actually, it's the Tropic of Cancer that marks the northern extreme.  What you apparently fail to realize is that the only place that the sun sets 23.5 degrees north of west on June 21st is on the equator.  When you move north of that, you need to take your latitude into account.  If you move far enough north on June 21st, the sun would not get below the horizon.
On June 21st, the sun is 66.5 degrees away from the north star (90 - 23.5).  Secure two sticks 66.5 degrees apart, point one at the north star, and rotate the other one until it points at the horizon.  That is where it should set on June 21st.  I do not understand why you do not realize this.  Maybe you could get a globe and play with it by going outside in the sun, tilting it so that the sun is over 23.5 degrees and see in what direction the sun would set at your latitude.  Better yet, go to a planetarium.

[TechStuf]

Barkin up the wrong tree Bubba.  I've provided my evidence, and you have parroted that which you believe to be true.

First off, I must apologize for transposing the tropic of cancer with the tropic of capricorn.  I've been using the two examples quite a bit as of late in the online forums.

Bubba, as I am obviously particularly unmoved by your 'evidence' and you continually fail to grasp mine....

Perhaps you could benefit from starting your own thread, providing evidence in support of your very popular theory that all is as it once was.  I'm sure you'll get no disagreement from any of a myriad fine 'meteorologists' and 'professors' who will support you to the bitter end....

http://www.isuma.tv/hi/en/inuit-knowledge-and-climate-change/tilted-earth-has-changed-everything

http://www.divulgence.net/Sun%20angle.html

The moon could rise over the north pole, and the sun over the south pole and there would still be no shortage of those certain kind of individuals who would parrot all that they see and hear from co-opted traditional sources who reassure them that all is as it once was.


Such is the way of a wayward world.


Blessings in Christ Yeshua