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Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

Started by lasersaber, September 01, 2010, 09:59:28 PM

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Magneticitist

i suppose i satisfy myself with Tesla's interpretation, though as pointed out none of it can truly be confirmed as of yet. I have to agree that Mass and energy are relative as opposed to mass and "distance", and this energy is aetherically received into the mass, from an inexhaustible supply, at a frequency relative to its mass and density. however somehow i dont think this mass and density is in any way tied together with "weight", otherwise Jupiter wouldn't have such a strong gravity supposedly.
the casimir effect... i always thought that was a "static thing".. i'd think small enough plates when near each other would find some way to attract to each other similar to a piece of dust traveling to and clinging to a shirt. the dust wouldn't do that if electrostatic charge was not affecting it atmospherically.
similarly a proportionally dust-sized meteor compared to the earth would try to "cling" if it was sucked in by our gravity. i guess thats how i look at it..
or maybe Leedskalnin was right and all of our celestial bodies have simply balanced out a perfect oscillation between their magnetic fields, and if it werent for that balance the "moon would fall" to earth.

i think lorentz is one of the major physics terms that doesn't make a whole lot of sense and needs to be analyzed more.. to me "lorentz" is the perfect example of what rosemary was saying earlier about balance and offsetting it.

dllabarre



After sitting for 9 hours since the last wetting, my new coil is at .790V vs 6mV for the first coil after sitting 8 hours.

DonL



Rosemary Ainslie

Hi Sandy,

Nice to see you here.

Quote from: nul-points on September 13, 2010, 11:07:23 PM
hi all
- electron tunneling
  i've read about the generation of charge separation due to to surface electrons 'tunneling' through a thin layer of insulator/dielectric to escape from a metallic surface, and then being unable to return because they were removed or captured either by air molecules or to another metal beyond the air-gap,

effect increases with heat, plates/sheets of dissimilar metals (few cm^2 area); the test results i read were for aluminium/ copper; effect can still occur with like metals, but reduced intensity; pressure was applied to get an optimum spacing between the metals - effect peaked at some pressure; some effort was made to 'dry-out' the test

sounds familiar? - would be interesting to see if the rigs here can sustain an increased voltage at an elevated temperature for some period - preferably shielded - eg, old electric oven on lowish temp (40-50*C?)
Good point. I'll try it when I've built mine.

Quote from: nul-points on September 13, 2010, 11:07:23 PM- some crystals (eg. Rochelle salt) can be used as a dielectric for increased capacitance
  i've read that this material quite strongly exhibits the 'dielectric adsorption' effect - anomalous self-increase of voltage in a capacitor arrangement - thought to be related to previous charge on the cap, but my results show otherwise!  could the common salt be adding a slight amount of this effect to whatever else is happening here?
We've considered this.  Certainly it's been used in Laser's early video posted here.  But you'll note that in his multiple coil arrangement that the 'effect' is lost when initially dampened with saline solutions.  So.  If it's the salt then it also needs to be drying or dried.  Not sure yet.

Quote from: nul-points on September 13, 2010, 11:07:23 PMMagneticist (& others?) - you might be interested to read about some of the anomalous capacitor effects which i've recorded in a PDF - see the 'Secret Life of Capacitors' thread:
     http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9393.msg247816#msg247816
Thanks for the link.

Regards
Rosemary

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: dllabarre on September 14, 2010, 12:59:54 AM

I removed the enamel insulated copper wire from my coil.
Then covered the remaining bare gal steel wire with a piece of cotton.
Then wound new bare copper wire 18 awg between steel wire windings (insulated from each other with the new piece of cotton).

This was my original plan to determine if enamel insulated copper wire could replace cotton insulated copper wire.
So far it cannot. 
Two things changed. 
1) I changed from enamel insulated copper wire to bare copper wire
2) I added cotton between the bare gal. steel wire and the new bare copper wire thus increasing the cotton in the coil thus increasing the water retained.

More testing is needed.

DonL

PS - it's been almost 2 hours and my coil is reading .798V down just a little  from .812V...  A lot better then the first coil.
Thanks Don.  My question is this.  If you've replaced the enameled copper with 'bare' copper wire - then how do you know it's the increased cotton and not the cleaner copper wiring that's responsible for the increased voltage?  And what was the effect on the inductance/conductance with and without actually wetting the cotton?  Did you do that test number with the compas?

Apologies for all the questions.  Fact is I think I just need to get my own up and running.  I've borrowed a winch so that I can clean off the copper wire I've got and should be able to start winding everything tomorrow.  Can't wait.

Regards,
Rosemary

Sorry Don - and in your last post here.  Was the coil 9 hours later also substantially drier - or is it still wet? 

dllabarre

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on September 14, 2010, 10:12:18 AM
If you've replaced the enameled copper with 'bare' copper wire - then how do you know it's the increased cotton and not the cleaner copper wiring that's responsible for the increased voltage?  And what was the effect on the inductance/conductance with and without actually wetting the cotton?  Did you do that test number with the compas?

Sorry Don - and in your last post here.  Was the coil 9 hours later also substantially drier - or is it still wet?

I don't know what caused the increased voltage.

Two things changed. 
1) I changed from enamel insulated copper wire to bare copper wire
2) I added cotton between the bare gal. steel wire and the new bare copper wire thus increasing the cotton in the coil thus increasing the water retained.

Being 2 things changed I don't know which one or both caused the increase voltage.

I can't see or feel inside the coil so I don't know how dry/wet it was after 9 hours sitting there.  It must have been dryer because things have a tendency to dry out when they are in a warm dry environment.   ;D

It's still sitting there and I will test it again when I get home.
I know it will be dryer then it was this morning but I don't know how much dryer.

I'm not sure of what you're asking here:
"And what was the effect on the inductance/conductance with and without actually wetting the cotton?"
My inductance measurements are done with an inductance meter.
The compass movement is a lot stronger after wetting this coil then before but only on one end of the coil.  The end of the coil where my windings end.  South end.  But a little off center of the coil like where LaserSaber positions his rotor.  It's really amazing how strong the compass moves in this one spot.  You'll have to build one to really understand this concept.

DonL