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Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

Started by lasersaber, September 01, 2010, 09:59:28 PM

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Pirate88179

Rose:

I am only speaking from my own personal experience here.  In the original earth battery topic, we had all sorts of folks saying that the Stubblefield coils was simply a galvanic reaction, and nothing more.

Well, many members went on to prove, at least to my satisfaction, that this was not the case.  It may indeed play a part, as I have said, but that is not all that is going on.

Case in point.  My own measurements showed that, when buried in the ground, the dryer the ground, the better the output.  Others found this to be true as well.  then, we read where Stubblefield said pretty much the same thing.

So, IF water/moisture is the electrolyte AND it is only galvanic, then we should expect just the opposite right?  When it rained, my power and volts were down.  when it was dry, and very hot for many days, everything went up.  As I said, others reported this as well.

I am just posting this here to save others from re-inventing the wheel from the work done on the other topic.  Tesla always said that the earth contained more power than man could ever hope to use.  I still do truly believe that the earth plays a large part in the NS coil output.  Remember Tesla knew Stubblefield and vice-versa.

I do not claim to know what is going on here but, I can say that it is much more than just a galvanic reaction.  I am very confident of this.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Rosemary Ainslie

Hello Bill.  No question there's no easy answers here.  And I actually think that this little coil has not had the attention it deserves.  To me it is entirely FASCINATING.  Thanks to Wilby for bringing it to my attention at all. 

We need to explain the accelerated rusting process to be entirely shot of 'galvanic' interactions.  But the fact is that the 'rusting' reduces the effect - certainly in the early stages.  It seems to need to 'finish' this process before it can be start pumping out a usable potential difference.  And the fact that dry conditions improve the effect on those buried numbers - that speaks volumes.  But for some reason moisture seems to improve the effect 'above ground'.  But nor does anyone claim that the coils get immediately drier - which would be proof of an electrolytic type reaction.  So.  That water may just be a preferred element for the path of the flux.  That's how I see it anyway.  And in any event - this is something that can be quickly proved. 

Truth is that this has not garnered the kind of attention it deserves.  I'm guiltier than most as I've been on these forums for over a year.  But it was the motor turning that grabbed my attention.  And I entirely agree with you.  There's a HUGE source of potential energy in our earth.  I think the work that you guys have done here is GOLD.  If we can somehow unravel the cause - then I think we should be able to scale this up to more usable levels.  And I'm entirely certain it's doable.  Definitely I'm up for it if it simply requires a lot of work.  But I also think we need to get to those answers.  These forums are fraught with trial and error type tests.  It's haphazard.   Required - but maybe these small effects you're showing us here - just maybe we can find some applicable 'rules' to guide us better. 

I'm absolutely immeasurably grateful for all this work you guys have done.  It's simply proof of how absolutely REQUIRED are these forums and all you contributors who are open minded enough to explore.  Just so NICE. 

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: Pirate88179 on September 19, 2010, 08:57:02 PM
The Stubblefield coil is most definitely NOT a battery.  The EB topic, re-named by its founder Localjoe to Nathan Stubblefield Earth Battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications better explains what I think it is.  It is a self-generating induction coil.
I get it.  And you've already pointed out to us that Stubblefield himself only 'defaulted' to this as an explanation for the patent clerks.  LOL.

Quote from: Pirate88179 on September 19, 2010, 08:57:02 PMOn the bench, these things will not receive the telluric currents and will therefore not achieve the high output experienced by Stubblefield.  Also, when in the ground, if there is any deterioration of the materials at all, it is so very slow as to be not a factor I am concerned about.
I agree with this - especially if the ground gives a stronger effect.  And nice to know that the materials don't degrade.  That's got to be a plentiful source of potential energy. 

Quote from: Pirate88179 on September 19, 2010, 08:57:02 PMAlso remember that Stubblefield himself said that you can use series/parallel to achieved any desired voltage level or power level that you want.  That does not work with my electrodes at all.
This is quite important.  Ted showed us a coil that was wired in parallel and in series.  I think?  Is that the preferred? 

Quote from: Pirate88179 on September 19, 2010, 08:57:02 PMI have no background in chemistry at all...none.  I also do not hang out with anyone who does and do not know of any, except at the local University but, those folks over there do not have open minds at all.  It is the University I graduated from and, if it is not in the text books, they do not know about it nor do they want to know.
It's my experience that academics are all onto or into their special projects and 'lines' of interest.  But - rare as it is, there ARE those academics who are prepared to explore new effects.  You just have to keep knocking on doors.  I know this.  My knuckles are bare.  LOL.  And I've found a remarkable institution where 'courtesy' is part of their mission statement.   ;D My experience has been that there has been a certain want of this at most universities.  Nothing quite so unrestrained as criticism from a expert who relies on his knowledge for his livlihood.  I've got some prize comments from a wide variety of representatives of these our learned and revered.  LOL.  They're articulate - even when they don't answer and prefer to simply put the phone down.  But I think they've got their backs to the wall - or up against those long lines of books that they keep in their libraries.  Michio Kaku has assured us that ALL THOSE BOOKS are now obsolete.  LOL.

Kindest as ever,
Rosemary

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: Ted Ewert on September 19, 2010, 11:28:08 PM
If you look at how Laser has wired his coil, you'll notice that the outside copper is connected to the inside steel. This is so that when they are shorted, current in both wires flows in the same direction around the core. If the current flows in opposite directions the induced fields cancels each other out. Wired the way he has it, the currents compliment each other and create the same polarity field in the core.
This is how it's able to operate as a motor coil.
I still think it's a battery in the shape of a coil, but there very well may be other things going on there that I'm unaware of.

Cheers,

Ted

Of course.  Your absolutely right.  Then they 'share' the flux paths.  But why then is it more effective using a combination?  I suppose that goes to the heart of all our questions here.  Definitely two metals are more effective than one.  I've got a day free as they're doing an audit on campus.  And I'm going to see if I can get some definitive answers.  LOL.  I can but try.

Regards,
Rosemary

Magneticitist

dont forget good ol eddy. im sure hes playing a role..

its a wonder i have yet to come across one single person who has wound a coil around an aluminum core.