Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

[happyfunball]

So, then, go away and don't clutter the thread with crap.

There's nothing interesting in the proposed device, as explained thoroughly, and your crap won't change that fact.

That's where you're wrong. It's a VERY interesting device. It's not interesting to YOU. If the coil really is dry, I've never seen a working version, nor have you. Your OPINION is not the voice of God, sorry to break it to you.

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Guys - this is weird.  On so many levels.  Omnibus is a long time member - in excess of 4000 posts.  How has he retained his membership if his behaviour here is a sample of his usual behaviour?  Just think about it.  And then, let's recap.  I question the right of any member to hijack someone's thread and dictate what he may or may not post.  I also question the need to replace interest in lasersaber's device with Bill's device - however meritorious.  YET.  This is precisely what Omnibus does.  No apologies.  No by your leave.  Just does it.  And then under the pretense that the Joule Thief topic - which has run for years without any interruption - now supplant this thread topic.

I would say this about it.  I suspect that Omnibus is an owner of this forum - else he would not be so untrammeled with his demands.  And indeed I now think he has every right to determine who may or may not remain a member.  But more so is this concern.  The issue at hand is whether or not lasersaber is able to operate that motor without the use of water.  If he does then he's under absolutely no obligation to tell you me or Omnibus anything more or less about it than he chooses.  Yet Omnibus seems to think that he's in a position to DEMAND to know and even to get receipt of that device to assess it for himself?  He's either mad or he's well used to getting his way.  And if its the latter then does he, in fact, have some kind of ownership here?  He is - quite frankly - the only member I've ever encountered who says exactly what he pleases without any reach to any kind of courtesy whatsoever.  Clearly in breach of forum rules - yet dictating his demands.  WHO other than Omnibus DARES hijack a thread from one member and then DEMAND that another takes over?  It's about as appalling as it can get.

Which brings me back to an ongoing concern.  What are these forums actually about?  And is Omnibus an owner of this forum?  He allows 'cletus' and protects you all from those such as me - who is described as an example of a deluded 'zealot' I think he puts it.  Frankly I'm rather glad that lasersaber is NOT informing us about whether or not the coil is wet or dry.  And perhaps it would be as well to keep it that way.  I seriously doubt there is any intention here other than to entirely DISCREDIT or DESTROY whatever it is that labersaber is showing.  And If I disappear from this forum - then KNOW that these suspicions may very well be right.  I certainly HOPE NOT.  But I also know that there has been NOTHING that I have seen, and I've seen a lot, that quite matches this extraordinary license that Omnibus seems to allow himself.  It beggars belief.

Regards,
Rosemary

[Pirate88179]

How come a motor powered by a galvanic cell be a self-runner? This is not semantics. If this is not understood (that a galvanic cell powered device is not a self-runner) why are we all here? Just to supply the zealous activists with more arguments that the OU community are a bunch of morons, is that it? Please don's support incompetence. Aggressive amateurs are not to be encouraged, especially when dealing with topics in the sensitive territory of research we are in.

As for your coil, I will not do it because I don't believe two metals just running parallel to each other and not in contact can be a power source. You have to show me that that's the case. It's up to you to prove it and if you do that it would be really substantial. Someone showing a motor powered by a battery is not substantial at all. It cannot even be compared to the free energy from sun and wind. That's how unimportant and trivial that is. Please check again your coil and make sure it isn't a galvanic cell and also that it isn't picking up energy from a nearby source of electromagnetic waves (you may recall we had several years ago such case and initially it caused quite a stir in this forum only to be found that it is some trivial antennae type of a device).

It's high time to start distinguishing what is and what isn't important in all these claims so that less time and effort is wasted in dead ends and some real progress be made.

If you have read or are familiar with the Nathan Stubblefield Earth Battery Self Induction Coils topic located here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3500.0


you can see all of the research done on the patents and the devices.  This took a long time to compile this information.  Did you know that Stubblefield is recognized here in Kentucky, at Murry University, as the Father of Radio?  His voice transmissions preceded both Tesla and Marconi by several years.  He sent the transmission through the earth and his transmitter was powered by the Stubblefield cells.  He also installed the telephone system in Murry, KY and powered the entire system from his earth batteries.  He also lit his farm and heated his home using nothing but his earth batteries/Stubblefield coils.

So, we know there is something to all of this.  There was NO grid power in his area of the state at that time and therefore no radio/tv transmitters either and yet he said you can get all of the amps you need from the earth for free, and he did.

This is why I do not see the need for the Faraday cage experiments as I am satisfied that is not where the energy is coming from.

With a little reading on Stubblefield, you will see why this is all so very cool to finally be replicated by lasersaber.  It worked back in the late 1800's and it works today.

Bill

[conradelektro]

Why the Stubblefield Magnet Motor devised by Lasersaber is very interesting and an important development:

I am referring to Lasersaber's video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuMoaDXyFZU which shows a Baby Stubblefield Coil driving a Magnet Motor by help of two reed switches.

It is important to understand that the two reed switches close one after the other and never at the same time. One reed switch causes the Stubblefield coil to attract the magnet (the magnet just nearing the core of the coil) and the other reed switch causes the Stubblefield coil to push the magnet away (once the magnet has just passed the core of the Stubblefield coil).

Look at the attached circuit diagram and you will see that the reed switches switch "open circuits". And this is exactly the interesting thing.

There is some galvanic reaction happening, but the open circuits and the magnetic reaction are the new discovery.

Is this Over Unity? Much to early to tell!

Lasersaber demonstrates that a Stubblefield Coil can really do something, namely turn a magnet motor. This is an important first step and guides us to further studies and tests.

Lasersaber shows in his video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuQGuXJ02fo how a secondary can be used to harvest electricity (blinking LED) from the automatically switched coil, and such pointing to further developments.

A further direction to go would be an attempt to replace the reed switches by transistors because the switching of the "open circuits" could then happen much faster and a longer time than with the rather slow and not very long lasting reed switches. The electricity for the transistors (and the timing) could come from pickup coils placed near the magnet motor (as long as the pickup coils do not stop the motor).

An other approach could be to dispense with the magnet motor and to try other switching means like two coils switching each other (would need transistor switching, but I have no idea how that could be done). One could even use a battery to drive the switching and one would see how much electricity can then be generated by secondaries. May be we will have OU in this way (little energy for switching and lots of energy from secondaries).

Greetings, Conrad

[Omnibus]

Guys - this is weird.  On so many levels.  Omnibus is a long time member - in excess of 4000 posts.  How has he retained his membership if his behaviour here is a sample of his usual behaviour?  Just think about it.  And then, let's recap.  I question the right of any member to hijack someone's thread and dictate what he may or may not post.  I also question the need to replace interest in lasersaber's device with Bill's device - however meritorious.  YET.  This is precisely what Omnibus does.  No apologies.  No by your leave.  Just does it.  And then under the pretense that the Joule Thief topic - which has run for years without any interruption - now supplant this thread topic.

I would say this about it.  I suspect that Omnibus is an owner of this forum - else he would not be so untrammeled with his demands.  And indeed I now think he has every right to determine who may or may not remain a member.  But more so is this concern.  The issue at hand is whether or not lasersaber is able to operate that motor without the use of water.  If he does then he's under absolutely no obligation to tell you me or Omnibus anything more or less about it than he chooses.  Yet Omnibus seems to think that he's in a position to DEMAND to know and even to get receipt of that device to assess it for himself?  He's either mad or he's well used to getting his way.  And if its the latter then does he, in fact, have some kind of ownership here?  He is - quite frankly - the only member I've ever encountered who says exactly what he pleases without any reach to any kind of courtesy whatsoever.  Clearly in breach of forum rules - yet dictating his demands.  WHO other than Omnibus DARES hijack a thread from one member and then DEMAND that another takes over?  It's about as appalling as it can get.

Which brings me back to an ongoing concern.  What are these forums actually about?  And is Omnibus an owner of this forum?  He allows 'cletus' and protects you all from those such as me - who is described as an example of a deluded 'zealot' I think he puts it.  Frankly I'm rather glad that lasersaber is NOT informing us about whether or not the coil is wet or dry.  And perhaps it would be as well to keep it that way.  I seriously doubt there is any intention here other than to entirely DISCREDIT or DESTROY whatever it is that labersaber is showing.  And If I disappear from this forum - then KNOW that these suspicions may very well be right.  I certainly HOPE NOT.  But I also know that there has been NOTHING that I have seen, and I've seen a lot, that quite matches this extraordinary license that Omnibus seems to allow himself.  It beggars belief.

Regards,
Rosemary

This is impudent to clog the bandwidth with so much off topic crap. That should stop and that's being said from a reasonable standpoint. Are you the owner of the forum to be so overwhelming and trying to take control of the discussions? You should be the least person to do that because you have proven your utter incompetence, arrogantly imposing it on the OU community. What nerve!