Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

[shylo]

Hi Bill thanx for the reply..........my mistake I just assumed that until the connections were made ...they were just two parallel wires.......will multiple strand copper wire work in place of single strand unenameled..........as long as its' close to the same guage as the steal wire..........shylo

[dllabarre]

Im thinking this is from the electrostatic potential of the air as well as any magnetic field lines coming off the coil and any house wiring that might add to it. You are moving in a magnetic field possibly changing the field to an extent. If the coil is sitting on a wood table place your palms on it and apply pressure. Put your hands at different distances from the coil and see if it changes. Do this with your electric panel both on and totally off and take measurements to see the difference. I would be most interested in the readings of both with and without the Faraday. A little time consuming but the readings might be worth it.

I can't turn off all the power to this 2 family house so I went outside, 200 feet from any building, 300 feet from any MAINS power lines and no wiring underground (farm field).

The coil was dead 0mV, when i took it outside of the house still in the cage. The voltage didn't change when I was moving it however it still showed some magnetic attraction to my compass.

I put the coil in a glass of water and it went to .840V.
I took it out and after 2 minutes it was down to .540V.
I put it in the cage when it was .535V
The magnetic attraction was stronger when dry then when I first took the coil out of the glass of water.
After a few minutes of being in the cage the magnetic attraction was stronger then when it was dry.

I took it all inside...
After it was long enough for the wires to dry but the cotton insulation on the core was real wet, it measured .457V and a lot of magnetic attraction to the compass.

The coil has been in my office drying for over 30 minutes and it reads .408V with the same magnetic attraction.

I don't think I've mentioned before, the magnetic attraction is only at the 2 ends of the coil and not on the sides.

When I touch the coil on the sides nothing happens to voltage. Even if I grab it with my fingers wrapped around it.

But if I touch the core on the end where I ended the windings with my finger the volts go up an additional .45-.50V.  Also if I touch a copper wire on that end where my windings ended the same thing happens BUT if I touch ANY steel wire nothing happens.
If I touch a wire or the core on the end where my windings began nothing happens.

Now to continue with my testings.....

DonL

[dllabarre]

Hi McGiver30
I like your thinking, I was also thinking about using iron and copper washers to make assembly easier,as I am keen to make a 1 W of power device, finding out the best methods of construction
is very important.=  (Power out)  (Cost of materials)  (Duration of device)
cat

So far I believe the bare copper has to be insulated from the bare iron (steel).
So you'd have to add an insulation between the washers.

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Hi everybody,

Wow, I never thought this thread would take off so fast.  I will try to answer some of the questions that have been posted and share a few thoughts.

1. Some have seen my magnesium air batteries videos.  I would consider these a purely galvanic battery.  You build them with the goal of trying to achieve as much voltage and amperage as possible.  They can last a very long time when run as air batteries without using the salt water.  With the salt water they only last a month or so.  They have no electromagnetic effect so I do not consider them to be like the NS coil at all.

2. When building and testing a NS coil keep in mind that you are testing for the electromagnetic effect, not voltage.  I do not really care anymore what the voltage of the coil is at.  I had a guy come by with a scope and check the voltage of my coil in the live video stream while it was running.  It tested out at 50 millivolts with a back EMF spike of 200 millivolts.  I am hesitant to post these values as they were taken very quickly and should be taken again to reconfirm.

3. The mini coils are a side project that I did to see how a multiple coil arrangement would work.  I did not feel like building large coils, if the arrangement would not work well.  I did not expect them to work on their own at all because they were so small.  I was amazed when I detected some slight electromagnetic effects on my compass.  They ran really well when I first made and wet them.  Then I salted them and they completely died, as I expected they would.  Since then they have been showing some signs of coming back to life.  They ran for a good 8 hours or so the other day.  There is a slight possibility that I will get them working in a continuously running mode if I can get all the variables set correctly - rotor size, coil distance, reed switch placements, weight of the rotor, and iron core length, to name a few.   I am confident that I can build a large multiple coil arrangement that will work very well and do plan on building it in the future.  The coils will be the same size as the coil in my live video stream or larger.

4. I have built and tested way more NS coils then you could imagine.  Creating a working coil is not easy at all.  There are a ton of variables that have to be perfect.  If you follow my video build clips you should be able to do it.

5. Based upon my success I am inspired and have been testing enamel covered wire again.  In the past I have seen some pretty interesting results using plastic covered speaker wire with a wire of another type such as iron or aluminum.  Back then, I made the mistake of testing for voltage instead of testing it with a rotor and two reed switches.  The real break through for me was when I set my voltmeter aside and started just trying to get my rotor turning.  That is when I discovered the special effects that happen when using two reed switches.  Now that I have this extra knowledge, gained by real world experience, I am going back and doing some pretty interesting tests.

I cannot see how I missed this.  Hello Lasersaber.  I'm simply posting this here to get it back on the page.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

[Rosemary Ainslie]

1. Some have seen my magnesium air batteries videos.  I would consider these a purely galvanic battery.  You build them with the goal of trying to achieve as much voltage and amperage as possible.  They can last a very long time when run as air batteries without using the salt water.  With the salt water they only last a month or so.  They have no electromagnetic effect so I do not consider them to be like the NS coil at all.

Thanks for explaining this.  But what do you mean by a long time?  Does this oxidise in the air - or is it coated with something?  Abject apologies if my questions are rather elementary. 

2. When building and testing a NS coil keep in mind that you are testing for the electromagnetic effect, not voltage.  I do not really care anymore what the voltage of the coil is at.  I had a guy come by with a scope and check the voltage of my coil in the live video stream while it was running.  It tested out at 50 millivolts with a back EMF spike of 200 millivolts.  I am hesitant to post these values as they were taken very quickly and should be taken again to reconfirm.

I did not realise you've got a live video stream running.  Please give us a link.

3. The mini coils are a side project that I did to see how a multiple coil arrangement would work.  I did not feel like building large coils, if the arrangement would not work well.  I did not expect them to work on their own at all because they were so small.  I was amazed when I detected some slight electromagnetic effects on my compass.  They ran really well when I first made and wet them.  Then I salted them and they completely died, as I expected they would.  Since then they have been showing some signs of coming back to life.  They ran for a good 8 hours or so the other day.  There is a slight possibility that I will get them working in a continuously running mode if I can get all the variables set correctly - rotor size, coil distance, reed switch placements, weight of the rotor, and iron core length, to name a few.   I am confident that I can build a large multiple coil arrangement that will work very well and do plan on building it in the future.  The coils will be the same size as the coil in my live video stream or larger.

I see where you say that you need to 'get all the variables set correctly - rotor size, coil distance, reed switch placements, weight of the rotor, and iron core length, to name a few'.  It strikes me that it's more an art form than a science at this stage. 

5. Based upon my success I am inspired and have been testing enamel covered wire again.  In the past I have seen some pretty interesting results using plastic covered speaker wire with a wire of another type such as iron or aluminum.  Back then, I made the mistake of testing for voltage instead of testing it with a rotor and two reed switches.  The real break through for me was when I set my voltmeter aside and started just trying to get my rotor turning.  That is when I discovered the special effects that happen when using two reed switches.  Now that I have this extra knowledge, gained by real world experience, I am going back and doing some pretty interesting tests.

Very interesting indeed.  It strikes me that there's a huge learning curve here.  I think that you and Don are doing the right thing by establishing each and every result against each and every parameter - as you move along. 

Laser, may I thank you - publicly and personally - for giving us such a fascinating device to look at. And may I also compliment you on your exceptional experimental aptitudes.  It's interesting to see how subtle are the requirements to make it all work.   And so many questions - a delicious combination.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary