Magnetolysis - REPLICATIONS ONLY

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Chris Marion's replication results: Magnetolyzer MK1

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This is the test info from anonymous mayonnaise jar man
Emails with Chris Hunter helping him get up to speed.



I'm stuck on something that maybe you can help me get around the stump. I've run hundreds of tests on this
and is the only area of electrolysis that I'm focused on. ..The effect of magnetism on the electrolysis process.

For the past year I've been playing with accelerating the electrolysis process using a couple of fair sized stator coils
(7.5 amp and 8.4 amp) with great success using straight 120 AC. ( No effect with DC). One has 4 coils and the other has two.
Both very powerful electromagnets. I've run them as conventional electromagnets as well as connecting the windings to have
the same magnetic pole facing in. Simple 2-plate martensitic ss electrodes are just fine as a cell for testing.
The acceleration process is monstrous running this way. You probably already know that a 15 to 20 times increase in the rate
would not be exaggerating. (I'd gladly send you a vid clip but my cable provider has me capped, so I cant do that )

As you probably know, you cant run a stator coil that way for much longer than 10 seconds or the windings will fry
with the conductive load, so I protect the windings with a 7.5 amp variac . The problem with that is the increase in acceleration
is very minimal running this way, and I can only run it at 7.5 amps at around 30 volts AC..

Anything you can think of anything (electrical or otherwise) that can add to this set up try to get around this?
Even if you don't have an answer for that ..any thoughts on a slightly different approach I might try with this?

Hope you're doing well.


Ok, to keep the stator coils from frying up, you need to observe Kirschoff's Law and the Laws of Thermodynamics.  These are so important that you will soon learn the most valuable lesson in circuit design.

I will start with a simple circuit because keeping it simple is important.

We have a power source (can be AC or DC) and we have a Coil.  Now this coil is nothing more than a length of wire, and this length of wire can be 1 inch long or it can be 1 mile long, it doesn't matter.  What would happen if I put a 10 inch length of wire across the terminals of a car battery?  Gets quite hot quite quickly!  Now, let's put a heat device in series with this wire, like a light bulb.

So we insert a light bulb which is 90% heat and 10% light in series with your coil.  Now the coil becomes passive and is a conductor and an inductor, and we observe the laws of thermodynamics.  How?  For every hot side there's a cold side.  Equal and opposite reaction.  So if the cold side of the circuit is desired to be the coils, then we need something to get hot so the coils stay cold.  The energy has to go someplace.

Now if we put a large ballast resistor in series with your coil (I prefer the tube type carbon pile ballast resistors because I can run a cooling pipe through it to a radiator to cool it down) then it will allow enough current to flow to generate the magnetic field you need without messing with the frequency.  If you use a light bulb, you will be restricted by the amount of current that can flow through the tungsten element. A large resistor is designed to carry current but convert energy to heat in a specific location, which would be wherever you want that heat to be located.

Now if you want to go a step further....put your 2 plates in series with the coil, where the power flows THROUGH the water to get to the coil, and the resistance of the water will keep the coil cold, but it will self regulate from the gaseous resistive barrier that builds on the plates from the hydrogen and oxygen.

I hope this helps, and please if you could, let me know how it works for you, test results, etc.

Chris Hunter
ArcticTek.com

Since your reply, I took your suggestions and was able solve my electrical issue. It enabled me to be able to finally test
for much longer periods of time. That allowed me to take things even further. Thanks Chris ..you got me out of a rut.
Those stator magnets were very strong, and the effect dramatic as I said before, but it led me to conclude
that I needed something with an even greater magnetic capability.

Since then, I was able to pick up a powerhouse industrial electromagnet, that at 12 volts has a lifting strength of 889 lbs ( nearly half a ton ! )
and is designed to operate at either 12DC, 24 DC or 120 AC, with lukewarm heat at best at full power. With a variac I'm able to run it
anywhere from 10 AC to 140 AC without a problem. Weighs a whopping 7 lbs. Cost me $60 and has a magnetic field that extends nicely.
At 12 volts DC it sticks to metal like its welded, and a simple PWM takes care of the regulation.
If you're looking for one or two for any reason, let me know ..I have a great supplier.

The accelerating effect on electrolysis is monstrous using this magnet. I'm purposefully using mason jars for testing, so that I can
visually see what's going on, but the pull is so strong that I'm continually breaking jars. I should be able to overcome that pretty simply
with a different plate assembly configuration.

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Succesfull replication of Mookies [anonymous mayonaise jar man above] magnetrolysis accelerator
By Stevie 1001 Vids and Pics here

http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,1471.new.html#new

Vid here  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlvnhJ78KZI
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Mookies video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKqs5z2DrCk

Comments
Electrolysis Accelerator

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Several years ago, I grew tired of building electrolysis cells of various design,
concluding that they are all more or less the same, in that, at 12 volts
you simply cant build a cell to output much more than 1 litre/minute.
So I took a different approach, from a different perspective.

I reasoned that if I were able to create what's known as "electron avalanche"
inside an electrolysis cell via resonating electrode plates
I would, in turn, accelerate the electrolysis process.

It took 2 years, and hundreds of hours rethinking, rebuilding and retesting
in order to succeed. So here it is ..and its plainly as simple as it looks.

An accelerator that can run all day, quite capable of increasing the output
of any electrolysis cell by an order of magnitude of 10 to 15 times.

Mookie

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Vrands replication parts order from here,
Farrahs replication here also

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=399.msg6376


Re: Mookie's Electrolyser Accelerator
« Reply #47 on: Today at 06:36:01 »   

Quote from: Farrah Day on 2010-11-04, 17:26:17
Hi Yaro

I'm going to be building an EM from scratch, still just getting together the parts and deciding on my design at present. I'll start a new thread focussing on the build and my experiments in due course, which I'll be keeping clean by moderating. Hopefully Mike will also get himself a workbench here so we can compare notes. Looking forward to determining exactly what is happening in this process.

Edit: I see Mike (Vrand) has got a workbench set up here ready to go.

Mike reply,
Hi Farrah,
Yes, I will start posting on my workbench as the parts arrive and I get some bench time building it. 

Parts on order:

- The EM from Mookies recommended supplier "Controlled Automation" (Electromagnet that lifts 1430 pounds @24VDC) ebay listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/Electromagnet-lifts-1430-pounds-24VDC-83821-/160501203893?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255e9e03b5

-  430 ss,  24" X 24" X 16ga, 430 ss sheet.  Looking at making the electrode plates 3" X 7", so can try at least 2 different configurations.  Will take to local machine shop for laser cutting.  Got off ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360314291640&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

- Power supply for the plate electrodes, I already have a 55 amp 12 Volt DC PWM http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PWM-PULSE-WIDTH-MODULATOR-55A-HHO-HYDROGEN-GENERATOR-/300489341412?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45f68f79e4.  Already using this PS for some other cell designs so it will work perfect for Mookie's design.

- Power supply for the electromagnet can also be done with the 55 amp PWM, as well as the variac.  Will test to see the difference between pulsed DC and 60 cycle AC going into the EM.   

- Air dryer/pressure regulator is superior to water bubbler for taking out the water vapor of the HHO gas and still leave the "charged gas" to charge the air in the engine combustion chamber.  http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AIR-FILTER-FLOW-REGULATOR-AIR-COMPRESSOR-AIR-TOOL-AFR80-/150489084281?pt=UK_Air_Tools_and_Compressors&hash=item2309d93179 

- The container at first can be just a bucket, but will need a pressure vessel for the real testing to determine the LPM and to take to 60 psi.  Might have to make it out of steel then epoxy coat the inside.  Still designing.