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Andy Gravity-Magnet Motor

Started by Lynxis, April 26, 2006, 01:27:27 PM

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Lynxis

Quote from: treb79 on April 27, 2006, 10:44:21 AM
No this motor will not work.

Draw a line through the middle of the fixed steel rim. on the right hand side, the magnet weights are falling, there are 3. On the left hand side , the magnet weights are being lifted, there are 5. Think about it. for every magnet that reaches the bottom of the steel rim, it has to be lifted again to the top. the magnets are not assisting in this.

The magnets aren't providing any power at all. they just hold themselves/weight to the steel rim. a similar arrangement could be built without the rolling magnets, using some kind of track to keep the weights attached to the steel rim.

In any case, it's no different from 100,s of other gravity motors. It won't turn.

You might be right, question being if the off-center right-side is heavier to produce the force
needed to lift the left side portion...
I too am looking at this as being an issue that might not allow it to work.

dutchy1966

Quote from: treb79 on April 27, 2006, 10:44:21 AM
No this motor will not work.

Draw a line through the middle of the fixed steel rim. on the right hand side, the magnet weights are falling, there are 3. On the left hand side , the magnet weights are being lifted, there are 5. Think about it. for every magnet that reaches the bottom of the steel rim, it has to be lifted again to the top. the magnets are not assisting in this.

The magnets aren't providing any power at all. they just hold themselves/weight to the steel rim. a similar arrangement could be built without the rolling magnets, using some kind of track to keep the weights attached to the steel rim.

In any case, it's no different from 100,s of other gravity motors. It won't turn.

Sorry to say, but you're wrong. Study the pictures again and you will see de magenets spin arounf de off-centre axis and not the rim they are attracted to. So there are 3 magnets going down, 3 magnets going up (but are close to the axis!), one all the way down and one all the way up.
So, it might work as claimed.

regards,

Dutchy

treb79

QuoteSorry to say, but you're wrong. Study the pictures again and you will see de magenets spin arounf de off-centre axis and not the rim they are attracted to. So there are 3 magnets going down, 3 magnets going up (but are close to the axis!), one all the way down and one all the way up.
So, it might work as claimed.

regards,

Dutchy

No, sorry to say but you're wrong. The magnets do spin around the steel rim, the magnets are always attached to the steel rim therefore they spin around the steel rim. Do as I say, and draw a line vertically through the centre of the fixed steel rim, on the left hand side of the line you have drawn, there are five magnets all being lifted, until they reach the twelve o'clock position on the steel rim, on the right hand side there are only three magnets falling, every thing will balance out, the extra leverage the three magnets falling have, will be balanced by the five magnets needing to be lifted.

anyway don't take my word for it, build it, and watch it spin for ever...... or perhaps not.

NerzhDishual


Hello everybody

IMHO this device is very simple (but not so simple to build) and very clever.
It might work and anyway, deserve more pratical researchs and, perhaps, less maths.

Did you try the http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Andy_Gravity-Magnet_Motor
proposal experiment with an empty steel coffee can ?
I did it with a whiskey 'can' (I do not drink coffee :))) and a bunch of few circular weak ceramic magnets.
It works.

Any non permanently unbalanced wheel turns (with a non 'stalling' axle, of course).
Can we reason about this device with a mere *static* picture?
This apparatus is intented to move. Is it not?

Best
Nolite mittere margaritas ante porcos.

NerzhDishual



Hi, folks

What about this Andy_Motor animation by Eric Vogels: http://fdp.nu/AndyMotor/default.asp

Of course, it *proves* nothing ...

Best
Nolite mittere margaritas ante porcos.