Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison

[Pirate88179]

hitech70:

Yes, always good advice and sometimes, due to the heat of the moment, not always easy to follow.  Trust me, I have been there.  Does Hutch have a patent on this stuff?  If so, the formula should be spelled out.  (One of the many reasons I don't like patents)

From my work in the Stubblefield coils/earth batteries areas, I agree that power is everything.  We are still measuring in mA's but at least they are going up.  Good for you for getting measurable mA's.  I believe in scale.  If you can get mA's in a small device, one the size of a 55 gallon drum would be much, much higher. (or 2, or 10, or 15 drums)  This is a great topic.

Bill

[Koen1]

I joined this group because of this one subject building a free energy power cell.

Well welcome to our thread then
Always nice to have another guy in here who actually wants to do some experimenting!

Of course these voltages are not so much an issue with this Power Cell project.
The problem is Current, No Pressure the led will never light up.

Yes, the goal at the moment
is to get a higher amperage out, indeed. We have the volts, we need some more amps.

In John's videos, I noticed that he used a Large Stainless Steel Container's, thus the bigger, the more conductor of electric power and contact with his formula. As well as nice size middle inner core for the node.

Well actually, if you watched all of Hutchisons videos, you would see that he very clearly shows one of his smallest
cells and says it produces the highest output of all ("a little powerhouse" he calls it), much higher than the large
artillery shell sized ones...
So that appears to show that the size of the container does not at all necessarily increase the output.
Which is also what I have found so far: my large cells do not produce significantly more output than
the smaller versions, output and container size do not apper to be directly proportional at all.
But of course that depends on the mix you use: a large container of weak output mix is still
not as good as a smaller container of strong output mix. You need to get the mix right, then
you can try variations on the mix, the container size and material, etc.
And what exactly do you mean with "nice size core for the node"? Node?

What amazed me was the current and voltage that he used was suspend or frozen in time.

... err... okay...? Please clarify what you just said? current frozen in time?
If you mean that he used high voltage DC then yeah, but he was quite vague when Feynman phoned
in on his radio interview and asked him about it... Hutchison then first said he used very clean and
constant high voltage DC, but then later he said he used pulsed high voltage... And there's more stuff
he said that seems contradictory. I am not sure how much information you have on his cells,
but despite the name of this thread we do not focus on Hutchisons specific Crystal Cells only.
Hutchisons cell work is just very closely related, but there are a few others who have come up
with similar Crystal cell ideas completely or largely independantly. And since Hutchison seems
unwilling to share the details, I do keep an eye on what he puts out but in general he does not
produce much info to work with at all, and he hardly replies to emails, and even then he does not
give any helpfull information.
So we continue to ponder and develop our own theories on the subject which have so far produced
a few interesting prototypes that are way too low amperage but still seem promising.
My point? Well I guess something like: don't get too hung up on Hutchisons videos

So here we go, my mix an Electrolyte + Metalictic Conductor + Isolator + Polymer That once dries hardens.
I am cooking several different formulas to which I am waiting to cure out....
An Yes, Salt is the Electrolyte, The Metallic Conductor, I am using a various metals...(No Recomendation Now)
The Isolator is the Silica or Sand.
Polymer any that hardens after being heated and electrically charged.

My Search Is For Current:
My record is 5mili Amps and 1/2 Volt DC...
My blunder is that I should of record my mix of 3 weeks ago... A huge mistake....

Well sounds like a start!
Most of my test cells put out around 1 volt at about half that amperage,
and some of them around what you're getting out too. So far that seems to be in the right
direction eh?

But how dry is the stuff really? What is its water content?
After all, salt and sand tend to retain a lot of water...
And as long as there's water in there, even though the material may look and feel dry,
even tiny amounts of water in the material can and probably will cause galvanic
reactions to occur. And then you don't have a crystal energy cell, but rather a fairly
primitive galvanic battery....
The other guys who experiment with this stuff and myself included, tend to leave
the stuff out to dry in a special dry place or drying box for several months,
preferably "shorted" with a wire or resistor, to make sure we get as much of the
water out as possible.
Otherwise we may get really excited over an output reading that turn out to have
been galvanic later on... Many cells seem promising after construction, and many
drastically drop in output and even stop producing output at all after a few weeks.
Some materials have such a high water retention that even putting them out in the
sun for days on end doesn't dry them unless you leave them out to dry for several
months even. Of course this depends on the air humidity and such, so putting the
stuff on a dry box should help there.
Anyway, guess what one of these materials is that has such a hard time drying
completely? Yep: salt. So I guess what I'm trying to say is: watch out with the
water content of your material.

I think it so cool to be in a group, who is trying to Crack the formula...
John's patent is a secret... It will never be revealed...

No, I don't think he ever will give us more clear info on the subject.
But then again, he's been spending a lot of time corresponding with his new
web friend Paris Hilton, so I guess he doesn't have much time left to spend
revealing the secrets of free energy to the world.

I have searched YouTube to see if one has cracked as well as look for other Web Sites on this Subject.

And? Did you find anything besides this thread, Hutchisons videos, the Electrinium stuff, and perhaps one or two obscure
inventors?

Just Advice == Always document every thing you do, including your mixtures.
Even use a stop watch and record you time as you heat or cook your formula's.  In Every Detail.... 

Lol well I think everyone tries to...
But not ever cell material mix is a s simple as sand, salt and water. Some of them engage in
chemical reactions and/or need to be watched and stirred intently as the right moment of
reaction or de/hydration can most easily be confirmed visually, at wich point one may need
to perform additional procedures quickly before the critical point is passed and you're left with
failed reaction product batch 123. For example. So it is not always possible to really stopwatch
the times or record exact temperatures while you're scurrying around the lab with a batch of
boiling hot fizzing acidic solution. As I'm sure you understand.
Aside from that, it is indeed a good idea to record your experiments.

[ian middleton]

G'Day all,

@hitech70:  welcome 

@Koen:  g'day mate, you make a good point with regard to the difficulties in recording the times and activities
on the run so to speak. Each mix and each cell are never the same.

So with that in mind I'm going to advertise for an assistant. 
Green skin, humpback and stoop not manditory, blonde and 36" bust an advantage. 
Must have previous experience with boiling sulphur.

Ok Egor, go get your sister, there is work to be done.


see yer   

[sutra]

Hi guys,
I've been a bit silent lately only 'cause of the work and 'cause I've screwed my tester trying to reach very high voltages....luckily avoiding lighting myself....
I tried to get high V from the circuitry in a 15W low consumption light bulb....but I get a bit nervous messing with that stuff since high Voltage means solid death risk...
Well the highest voltage I can reach so far is 356Vdc in very short bursts, but I bet it will not be enough.
The latest power cell I realized had been sealed in a plastic bag since my last post and now pumps a stable 0.276 V and 3 micro Amps. The resistivity measure around 15 MOhm decreasing during test, just like a condenser. I don't think I'm obtaining a galvanic reaction....

Before changing mix I think it will be necessary to increase the working Voltages in order to establish a good electret in the mixture.

Does anyone have a better idea to reach high voltages not using cascade circuits?

ciao

[AbbaRue]

If you can get yourself a variable HO gauge train transformer, and an old microwave transformer.
You can make a good variable HV power supply out of that.
30 Volts fed into a microwave transformer will give you about 600 Volts output.
Microwave transformers step up the voltage about 18 times, so you can calculate the output.
Then buy some 1000 Volt 6 Amp diodes and your all set. 
I bought my diodes for about 25 cents a piece from the following place.
http://www.futurlec.com/DiodesPower.shtml

Hope this helps.