Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison

[triffid]

Donb't overlook using crockpots as a source of heat and of course theres always a locked car (146 deg f) on a hot day.Also if you live near a rail road track you can crush your stones on the track.Just don't let the train people see you.Or you might get into trouble and have to explain yourself to the police.Triffid

[jeff0516161]

@Ian, yes please just call me Jeff. The numbers were just the result of yahoo randomly picking numbers.

As far as the urine goes, I am not being sarcastic. I'm glad you realize the chemical makeup and the possible benefits of it. The Egyptians were taught this by the Sumerians. Evidence has been shown the Egyptians used it with their A/G tesla like coil setup. Tesla built his tesla coil and free energy taken from the ionosphere all based on studying the Egyptian hieroglyphics. Where do you think our light bulb came from? Tesla and Edison worked very close together. Other glyps show pictures of light bulbs.  I posted here a few weeks ago. In one of the links you can read how they used their urine.

I'm sorry if some of you think this is off the subject. However, I just want to say the answers are here and we just need to look at ancient history and follow what our more informed ancestors already had knowledge of. Whether any of you believe me or not....our fiber optics and cd laser technology came from our ancient history. I won't get into how I know this...sorry.

Jeff

[Koen1]

Jeff,
off topic as indeed it is, I also have a fascination with ancient "Egyptian"
(and Sumerian, and Indian, etc) technology.
It is not clear to me what you refer to with an Egyptian "A/G tesla like coil setup".
Can you give an example of this?
Or are you perhaps referring to the "Djed" or "Tet" pillar?
I've actually been pondering various interpretations of that for some time and
although it is clearly a voltage multiplier twice the zise of a man or more,
I don't really know of any actual Tesla-like coil setups depicted or used
by the Egyptians.
I do know of the Caduceus Staff which, in a set of interpretational variants,
could be interpreted as a dual coil setup most probably used for periodic
electrical discharge very similar to oldfashioned Hertz-style radio wave
generation and/or rectification, but that again is something quite different
from a Tesla-coil like setup...
And the Arc of Moses was clearly a box-style version of the Djed, possibly
combined with a few characteristics that allow the observable charges to
fluctuate in an amplitude modulated manner thus allowing for simple radio
reception, or possibly not even that and simply one thermochemically powered
voltage multiplier and capacitor combination.
Urine is not ultimately necessary for any of these devices to work, but I do
admit that several possible versions of both the Djed and the Arc would probably
work better when a good electrolyte is used such as salt water, acid, urine,
blood, or something like that. Some sources claim the Egyptian priests urinated
on the base of the Djed pillars to stimulate their activity, others say it was water,
acid, or something else. And everyone with a reasonably translated bible can read
how the Arc needed hot coals and blood, and perhaps even wine, to be put on the
parapet during special rituals by 'priests' in special conducitve suits, before a big
arc lamp started emitting UV light which gave the priests sunburn. Thermochemical,
clearly.

[Koen1]

Koen 1,I would be happy to have you name a few biological materials for me.After all the more I know the more I can help out here.Also garlic is a source of Ge.Triffid.

Ok, off the top of my head,  and I may have misspelled one or two of them, and I may have omitted a few, so you may want to
double-check, but this is what pops into mind right now:
- the "classic" (semi-)conductive organic "blacks" (Melanines), generally polymer: Polypyrrole, Polyacetylene, and Polyaniline
- slightly newer versions of those: oxidised iodinated Polypyrrole and oxidised iodinated Polyacetylene, and Polyaniline
- the (semi-)conductive short chain molecules (mostly aromatic hydrocarbons) like pentacene and anthracene.

In general there are two mechanisms for conduction in organic molecules, one is very similar to normal semiconductive
elements and compounds and involves overlapping conduction bands and band gaps, the other is a charge carrier exchange
mechanism (ion  exchange), and there is quite a large overlap in these mechanisms, in organic (semi-)conductors.
In general such organic molecules or compounds with (semi-)conductive properties are sometimes referred to as
"organic metals", which is actually incorrect use of the term "metal" and instead "conductor" is meant, since it only
refers to certain organic molecules with overlapping conduction bands which allow for conduction. "Organic Germanium"
for example is some organic compound containing Germanium atoms and having a conduction similar to Germanium
(which is an intrinsic semiconductor and so "organic Germanium" is merely the wrong name for an organic semiconductor
compound containing a certain amount of Germanium).
Other names used for "organic semiconductor", besides "organic metal", are "conductive polymer", "semiconductive polymer",
"conductive melanine complex", "animal black conductors", "biological conductor". Some are used more often than others.

Wikipedia also mentions Rubrene as a short chain, and poly(3-hexylthiophene) and poly(p-phenylene vinylene) as two
long chain organic molecules that are (semi-)conductive, and gives a fairly good brief overview of conductive polymers here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conductive_polymers, of organic semiconductors here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_semiconductor,
and this site also gives some good info: http://www.organicsemiconductors.com/.
This Japanese site also gives good info in the articles, which may be more interesting to you, being a chemist and all. http://jpsj.ipap.jp/journal/JPSJ-75-5.html

An interesting quote here is the following:

R. Nicolaus: "The most simple melanin can be considered the acetylene-black from which it is possible to derive all the others..... Substitution does not qualitatively influence the physical properties like conductivity, colour, EPR, which remain unaltered." from The Nature of Animal Blacks ( "acetylene-black" = polyacetylene)

(from that last site). This seems to imply that it doesn't really matter much which melanine variant you use...

Well, so much for my quick summary.
Hope that helps?

[triffid]

Thanks Koen 1,It helps a lot.Last night I dug up three or more books on offbeat sources of materials.No they are not named "offbeat sources".But I found about three new materials to add to what I have already mentioned here.I will have to post them at a later time as I have to get back to work from lunch.Triffid