Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison

[Pirate88179]

Das:

The only problem I see with using the neo dust or crushed magnets is that, when you cook it, if you go above the Curie temperature, it no longer has any magnetism.  This is not a very high temperature for neos, usually just a little over 300 degrees.  The Curie temperature for neos is lower than other types of magnets.

Bill

[das aloda bullspit]

@all
Hey ive been wondering what has happened to the other regulars like ian and koena and the others well i bet there busy and stuff but i will kepp at this as i dont have a job at the moment  and sutch but i have abit of funding and DLA and a good chemistry teacher so..but thats justme.what about you guys and all?

[mrbr00k5]

@das aloda bullspit
I know it can get quiet around here. But it takes a while to have info worth sharing I guess. I check the topic everyday, several times per day really. (Yeah, I'm a nerd.) Ian usually has some surprise he's been working on, and suddenly makes an awesome post. I don't know where Koen is either. I'm working on a new battery right now, but I want to give it time to settle before I make a post about it. It takes a little while for the galvanic effects to stop. Hopefully it will continue doing as well as it is right now!  I don't have any funding or anything, I mostly try to make ingenuity make up for my lack of money. But not having enough resources can and is certainly slowing progress. Oh well, just have to keep going! Oh, and something I discovered while experimenting, the rock commonly known as tiger's eye, is conductive. I was kinda surprised! It just didn't seem like the kind of rock that would be conductive to me. It doesn't conduct really well, it's in the 1-2 megaohm range for most pieces, but it did function as a working electrode if you use a small enough piece. This info might not be too useful, but I just found it interesting. Anyway good luck on your research and stuff everyone!

[wintermuteai1]

New Vid by John about the crystal cells:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKzh8BvVKXc

[ian middleton]

G'day all,

yep can get pretty quite on here sometimes. But rest assured theres lots going on behind the scenes.
Currently I'm investigating why some cells work fine for 4 or 5 days with constant good voltage and current (>1.3v and >3mA) and then within a matter of an hour or so just die. They go back to the old 10-20uA range. A chemical reaction would not drop off so quickly. Anyway I'll work it out soon enough.

@das: If you intend to use high voltage as in the high kilovolt range, you will be making an electret. If you use a lower voltage like 24V DC directly across the cell you will be making a low voltage current source.
50Kv directly across a newly made cell will have little or no effect. The cell itself will determine the voltage across it.
For example, a freshly made crystalline cell which is still semi fluid will have a very low resistance.
They are quite capable of drawing over 5 Amps from a 24V PSU. As the mix cools ( it won't with 5 amps going through it ), the voltage will start to rise. The internal resistance of the mix will increase as it crystallizes.  For a silicon/ oxide based mix it is better to regulate the current to a set value, say 1mA, which means the polarizing voltage will have to be constantly adjusted.

I usually stop the DC voltage at around 15V, which tells me the resistance of the cell is high enough. if the resistance of the cell is too high then you will get cell voltages  1.4V or greater but low current output < 50uA.

I don't use electrostatic polarization at the moment because I can only get 3Kv from the zapper which is way to low. I need 50-100Kv to do any good. But for those of you who have the equipment to do it, make sure there is adequate current limiting. 100Kv @ 50uA will make all your cells orphans if you touch it.
Anyway, polarizing the cell is only half the process. In fact most cells will self polarize due to the dissimilar metals used in the electrodes. Some cells will reverse polarity no matter what you do.
For better results I use +ve electrodes that are themselves semiconductive. No great mystery here, you can oxidize a peice of copper wire and it will have  mild semi conductive properties. They work well. Don't forget in the early days many rectifiers were made out of copper oxide. One way to prepare the wire, if you have 6 months to spare is to coat the wire with salt water and hang it outside to be exposed to rain and shine. A very fine and even coating of blue-green oxide will develope. Works for me  anyway.

I'll be back with more soon.
Keep up the good work guys, yes! and where is Koen?

CYA

Ian