Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison

[jeanna]

interesting...
Can you please tell me what exact geopolymer formula/mix you used to make this stone?

And what form of sodium silicate did you use, exactly? Was it NaSiO2OH, or a sodium metasilicate of some type?

First, I'll say the bottle is slim on information. It is sodium silicate (water glass) solution. 42 baume. I got it from the chemistry store in south carolina. I paid 10 for the stuff and 20 for the shipping.

Now, I can tell you from my notes what I did. I was looking for a building material (which this is not - it is very powdery as a structure, as though the clay lost all its stickyness, which I suspect it did.)

The original mix was this:
2 cups carbon-filtered water (or rain I don't remember)
1/6 cup sodium carbonate
1/4 cup green and red clay mixed (green says montmorollinite mg smetites etc the red only says kaolin)
mixed these til they liquified.
1 cup s-type lime. (this is a partially hydrated not yet calcium di-hydroxide available in washington state.)
to this I added 4 cups CaCO₃ beads -I wanted ground limestone but all the store had was this stuff made from precipitated materials being reused from the processing of lime. It must have a lot of sulphur in it. It smelled like the perm my mom used to give herself in the 50's. I think that perm smell comes from sulphur. Anyway it was certainly not just CaCO₃ .
my notes continue:
"after 4-5 days it is still wet but a goop is at the bottom. I brought up some goop and added sand to it & mixed. I made a dry mix like cement aprox 1 goop : 4 or 5 sterile play sand. This is to see if that goop will be a good binder for sand or other aggregate. Brought this (w/ sand) in house 11/18/07."
Later on I found a 19th century reference from Kuhlmann that he "silicatized" various things and got interesting results. Cyrano on the pyramid thread did a control of probes in salted moist sand and found voltage. I repeated his and also found voltage. That is when I broke off a piece of this - now dry- from the bottom of the jar and painted it with sodium silicate ("silicatized" it)

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If you search google for silicatize or kuhlmann you should be led to several digitized books indexed and free from google. (thanks google)
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Are you a chemist? I am not and I am not confident in my ability to accurately calculate weights from molar amounts. This is the reason I used approximate measuring tools like cups. I would like very much to be able to weigh out the proper amounts. Prof Davidovits' patents describe the amounts in moles. Are you able to help me with this?

I hope this clarifies what this petrovoltaic (e^-pebble) is.

jeanna

[ian middleton]

G'day all,

Meet Timmy Tin Tart tray. This is made from a similar mix as the one I made on 5th January. The voltage you see has remained stable for 3 days nows. But as before ,the current is pretty weak.

@jeanna: Do you think it might work better if I added some salmon fish oil 


Ian

[jeanna]

G'day all,

Meet Timmy Tin Tart tray. This is made from a similar mix as the one I made on 5th January. The voltage you see has remained stable for 3 days nows. But as before ,the current is pretty weak.
Ian
Anyway that mix I made on Jan 5th is still sitting at 120mv even after dead shorting it for an hour this morning. Next stop, add the liquid silicates.

So, I am curious, did you add the liquid silicates? and if so, at what point in the process? (It makes cement and plasters sieze up very quickly if you add it in during the mixing. but that is without added heat.)
jeanna
PS I will remove the last part of the quote if you ask me to.

[neptune]

@Koen1. You are obviously a very knowledgeable person in your field. I have been doing research on pyramids[see First electrical output from a pyramid]. Perhaps you could shed some light on the use of quartz sand [in conjunction with graphite and copper] in Thomas Tawoegers experiments. Note especially that these substances are used inside a coil of copper wire, and so presumably within a magnetic field. any comments would be much valued.

[ian middleton]

G'day all,

@ jeanna:  I reground the leftovers from the first mix, this had already been through a baking process.
Next I made up some sodium silicate (from powder) into a thick syrup.

This was by no means a scientifc test just a "lets see what happens" type of thing.

To 2 teaspoons of NaSi03 I added the same amount of ground mix, to that , 2 tsp of calcium carbonate and 2 tsp of sodium carbonate.  Poured the thickening gloop (as you put it) into the tart tin.  Baked on hot plate (low heat) for 40 mins.

I now have a sort of electric biscuit.

So really I have combined two processess.  I'm not getting too excited about this one just yet, I'll let it mature for a few weeks and see if there is any residual chemical action.

Ian