FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR

[Magluvin]

Ive been doing some simple tests and messing with this idea in sim

Something that I find interesting. When we disconnect a current from a coil, we get a spike. These spikes are powerful but short lived. As any experienced tech or electrical engineer will tell you, there is no more energy in the spike that what was input to make the spike.
During that short period of time when the spike occurs, that spike has the ability of penetration of sorts. Like, almost no matter the load that the spike is applied to, that spike is evident with a scope.  For example, if the input were 12v and the coil produced 90v during the collapse, but in a 10ohm load, the 90v would be reduced but still a spike that is visible. Lets say across the 10ohm load we have 36v. Not real numbers, just a general operation chart. ;]

If we have a dc to dc power supply, that converted 12v to 36v and applied that 36v to the 10ohm load, we would have roughly over 130w being consumed.

I was experimenting in using a 1to1 transformer with ac applied to the primary at 40hz and shorting the secondary at 4khz throughout the ac cycle.

I tried some additional caps and coils also in different ways and there are things that need to be tried on the bench.

Im getting waveforms that are spiky on input and output. Im finding that if I put an inductor in series with the secondary, the input goes from just producing output, to recieving input. Not that the power companies would want us doing that. 

So the output and the input spikes are filling in the 40hz wave trace to look solid, 100 spikes per cycle wave. 

So im getting 2 to 5 times, depending on adjustments and such out into the load compared to input, AND the input is getting some back.

So it appears that if we have many shortings during the input cycle, along with additional inductors and caps, that there is more out than in with AC charge back.

I have a few versions of the circuit on sim before I build it. Ill post a couple tomorrow with pics of the circuit and scope shots showing power dissipation input and out. Even expanding the waveforms, it looks good.

The idea is, with so many shortings the spikes seem to take over, creating larger solid looking waveforms as compared to not shorting.

Im a bit amazed. But it is still sim and has to be tried.

I was messing with filtering the 4khz out of the output, and we have a virtually cleaned up output, but more than without shorting. I think this is something they are dealing with in the Kapanadze thread also. Makes a lot of sense.  like I said, those spikes have oomph. And it seems enough to hold up that larger waveform into a load, especially when the spikes are very close together, happening very often. ;]

Either way, im taking the shorting more seriously at this time. ;]

Mags

[kEhYo77]

Hi Magluvin.
I like your approach.
My shorting module is ready for testing and I've been thinking along those same lines using a transformer.
For my first tests I want to do the shorting of a secondary while primary is being driven in a state of resonance.
I've got a quite good kill-a-watt meter to measure power consumption with phase angle measurement so
we will see if the shorting is reflecting back to the source...
There is a pretty big 300VA toroid waiting for this my meter shows 1W consumption with added caps at primary (reduced from 3W idling without any caps)
The two identical 55V secondaries will be connected in parallel for quicker response in building a field while being shorted.

kEhYo

[konehead]

Hi Magluvin and Kehyo
I asked Ismael if he creates the rings with an inital short at the peak, then when the ringing starts, and he tehn shorts the peaks of the rings themselves... he laughed and said "thats it"..
but making the shorting "non-refelective to source" is mandatory otherwise eveytime you make power, also  more power is required to make it so "no gain" happens
usually ringing like you see created by a spark-gap or a coil shorted momentarily very quick in a switched-short will decay-out in the voltage peaks of the ringing if looking with scope, but when you short at the "peaks of the rings" too,  the power going into caps goes up exponential-fashion (explosiong of voltage sort of)...if cap fills to 100V and the ring peaks decay down to 95V or bleow, and you still have lots of ringing, that cap is not going to fill speck more in voltage no matter how may times it is pulsed below 100V so in a single-shot short event it is only the first couple rings that boost the voltage up in cap, but in multi-short event you can get it to go up and up and up in voltage...
making system non-reflective to source ("lug free") is divided into two events; where the lug will happen - 1)the filling up of the capacitors, and 2)the knocking of capacitors into load...
putting caps into load without lugging system is pretty "easy" really - use the diode-plug or two stage circuit where caps disconnect from source (coils) during the dicsharge to load....this is pretty much  mandatory in coil-shorting stuff to be doing - you cannot throw a resistance acorss those caps when coils get shorted during the filling-up of them -  it will snuff everything out-  that resistance..
to make filling of caps lug-free, the caps size is important to experiment with, as way too big of cap uf value will have lots of resistance "in itself" so the resistance of cap can snuff out the ringing of the coil short too...
what I have found is ultra-important is the pulsewidth of the coil short and like I was saying a few pages back tha I found through expeimenting alot, is that if for an example you are working with 60hz sinewave, the coil-short at peak needs to be under .5 millisecond, and make sure it is at peak too, then in this case the rotor of generator (what I was testing ) will not slow down a single rpm while the caps fill up  - also I found that with wider pulse width, that does slow rotor a bit, (lenz lugging) the cap doesnt fill any faster than with that below .5ms pulse so that is a good thing.... anyways good luck in the experiments...
I guess jsut want to say again; time those multiple shorts per peak period to occur at the peaks of the ringing is the trick then its unbeleivable power rgoing into those caps and dont apply load to caps that have filled up until you disconnect caps from coils at same time...
I have been using a FWBR to rectfy the short-rining into DC caps, I want to experiment next wtih single diodes, going into two "alternating" DC cap banks so that I can do also the altenraing-DC-cap discharge diode-plug output with it....I'll let you know what happens with this - also I have been using "bidiretionally" hooked-up mosfets that will switch AC, but if doing single diode approach, maybe I can get by with only single mosfets to do the short, maybe PNP on pos phase NPN on neg phase not sure yet how its going to work but on paper it should...

   

[Magluvin]

Here is my initial example. Im working on tuning this one as it is just set at some simple values for components.

The input is 40hz 20v ac

The transformer is a 1to1 10mh

The switch is an analog switch set for .005ohms. Hey, what da heck. ;]  Simple.

The control input for the switch is set at 4khz square 50% duty cycle

The inductor and cap added is what made it all happen as nice as it looks. With just one or the other, output suffered. 10 mh and 10uf    And 99ohm load resistor.

With the addition of the inductor and cap, we get power being sent back to the input. bout 260w peak. Peaks?  Yea, but it is all peaks here. Dense peaks. ;]

Im working on tuning and a couple other versions. I just wanted to put this out there to show it in basic form.  Also the additional cap and inductor seems necessary for it to work by increasing the output as compared to without the LC, and providing power back to the source. 

The continuous shorting seems to not be much of a problem, and it is simpler. ;]

Mags

[Magluvin]

Here is the same circuit with a 10ohm load instead of 99ohm. Notice the difference in input and output compared to my previous post.   

Mags