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Overunity Machines Forum



FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR

Started by luishan, September 08, 2010, 11:50:07 PM

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markdansie

@Chet
I applaud their efforts but have seen nothing that would warrent a trip at this stage. i will await for the test reports but find it strange the way they are conducted. Why not as Rossi did put it on a bench (no Dyno's) and close loop it.
At this stage I believe it is smoke and mirros.
I have seen other devices visited by government officials and even with independent engineering reports...that amount to nothing.
I however will see how this pans out, but hold little hope.
There is overunity and it is being developed...but nothing that appears in forums
Mark

bolt

Quote from: markdansie on February 27, 2011, 03:37:17 PM
@Chet
I applaud their efforts but have seen nothing that would warrent a trip at this stage. i will await for the test reports but find it strange the way they are conducted. Why not as Rossi did put it on a bench (no Dyno's) and close loop it.
At this stage I believe it is smoke and mirros.
I have seen other devices visited by government officials and even with independent engineering reports...that amount to nothing.
I however will see how this pans out, but hold little hope.
There is overunity and it is being developed...but nothing that appears in forums
Mark

The test reports are already out there and thus there is nothing to wait for.  COP is 2.7 for the MEG and the car is 132% efficient  from battery power demand versus power hitting the wheels. Most of the losses are due to the DC motor is only about 66% efficient. 

Just because something amounts to nothing doesn't mean it can not or does not work. Its only politics and not technical that prevents the public gaining access. Ismael must have listened carefully to the thousands of emails sent in recent weeks to make the technology open as a power supply only which should provide access to DIY systems ranging from 100 watts to 1kw will make them very affordable and is taking the option to go open source very seriously. Industry and commercial projects requiring high power of 5kw+ i am sure will pay him directly to produce specific power plants with a good cash flow will ease all his credit problems.  The technology will find its way into electric cars and electric bikes automatically as a result.

markdansie

The test reports have not been released. Remeber they found the hidden batteries and had to do a 4th test. I will wait for the official report.
Why not just do a closed loop bench top test..why a car?
there are many inconsistancies to take this seriously at this stage
Mark

kmarinas86

Complete test reports have not been released.

Quote from: markdansie on February 27, 2011, 07:49:20 PMRemeber they found the hidden batteries and had to do a 4th test.

And here's a direct quote:

http://pesn.com/2011/02/24/9501772_Philippine_DOE_Verifies_Aviso_Self-Charging_EV/

Quote from: Philippine DOE Verifies Aviso's Self-Charging EV
Subject: Testing figure

Testing DATA 5

Test 1
Meralco: 1,300watts/ 6.4amps./ 223 V Dyno: 291 Newton / 570 watts
Aviso tech: 308 watts/ 13amps / 23.74 v Dyno :210 Ntwn / 418 watts

Test 2
Meralco: 2000watts/ 9.5Amps / 227V V Dyno: 455 Newton / 931 watts
Aviso tech: 306 watts/ 13amps / 23.6V Dyno: 210 Newton / 402 watts

Test 3
Meralco: 2,300watts / 10.98amps / 229V Dyno: 507 Newton / 1,100 watts
Aviso tech: 306 watts/ 13amps/ 23.56 V Dyno: 200 Newton / 389 watts

We drove outside about 100 meters & back again to LAB & again some testing; inasmuch as they found two sets of batteries 7amps/12V in front of the car. I told them that it was a supply only for the fan and microcontroller; but they didn't believe me; so we test again for the 4th time & confirmed no connection powering the motor & drops of volts & increase of current draw. Very minute draw of current only either on or off of the motor.

Note: Actual Average time testing of AVISO tech 5 minutes. Two minutes running allocated for the DYNO computer setting up.

Testing of repelling force.

6 times Conventional way of lifting a 1kilo coil & using conventional small 12V DC low speed motor.

Height : 12 feet
Average Time to reach 12 feet : 0.9 (corrected to) 9.0 sec.
Average Current draw : 0.93 amps
Battery : 12V / 24AH

FYMEGM repelling force by AVISO TECHN. 1Kilo coil

3 times repelling Battery start at 12.48 V end up 12.29V

Average Height: 26 feet
" Time: 1 sec
Battery: 9 V + 1.5V AA + 1.5 AA = 12volts

Note: I am not satisfied re: the Height reached, but I don't have time to adjust to full power.

I told them, Once I receive enough funding, the next test will be 110 Kilometers per hour & until battery it run down.

Ismael

iald

Ismael recieved a lot of offer from a billionaire to Big company. Here's several offer & condition;

1. Most of offer want His LAb to be transfer outside Philippine. Rejected. His stand Philippines or no deal.
2. Wants contract all Alt energy technology will exclusive  excluding Healthy Water technology . Rejected. Ismael wants every power capacity will be with individual  clause of contract. It means 50Kiwatts contract diff from 1 megawatts. Ecar Sedan type diff from Heavy Truck.
3. E car Value SRP will be agreed after determining the cost of mass production.
4. Production will be in the Philippines
5. He is the Boss n mass production
6. there some details with less important

He's taking His time , since His desicion will be based on group decision. Final decision after three months.
Sterling is a moving force why Ismael considering about Open source.