Electricity Amplification Device - It's so simple !!! (Hatem Magnetic Cogging)

[Pirate88179]

Bill:

You could learn about being reasonable yourself.  About two years ago you beat the living crap out of me because I could not remember the typical voltage drop across an LED.  Then more recently Maglvin did the same thing.

MileHigh

I do not recall that.  I also doubt that you would not remember something like that.  All I was saying is that it is the way things are asked that can make a huge difference.  Sure, I am all for going after someone selling something that is clearly a fraud, and I commend you for doing so in the cases you mentioned.  But,(hopefully) here it might just be a case where a guy does not know something...or has measured incorrectly....they should not be treated like the fraud guys.  Obviously, not everyone here has your background or knowledge.  This is all I am pointing out.

If I indeed gave you a hard time for forgetting the led voltage drop, then I apologize.

Bill

[Magluvin]

Mags:

Go ahead and post the list if you want.  The point I am making is important.  There is a culture of fear - being afraid to ask your fellow experimenters to demonstrate how they made their measurements and to put forth a valid argument to explain their proposition.  So if I question that, it invokes a double fear.  And sometimes people think that they can swing an oppression club and reenforce the status quo.  You should all encourage each other to ask questions and even express doubt.

I am not going to be intimidated by you and your attitude.  I will ask reasonable questions when I want to and that's it.

MileHigh

Can you not tell how people receive your comments? Why does it have to be that way? Hmmm?

Its like you are super lazy. You make all these demands of people, without lifting a resistor to prove your end. Wuts that all about? Where's my Hossenfeffa!!!

Be a man like TK and do something. If he doesnt get answers from people about a device, that peaks his interest, as your interests seem to be here, then he builds it. Then when he builds it and it doesnt work, he has way more right to further question, than someone who just thinks they know it all.

I remember you asking me to make a pulse motor with a hidden battery. A device to teach people with you said.

When I think about that, I think, how many people that are hopeful and working towards OU or FE, would ask me or anyone to do such a thing. I cant think of any..

Then I got to thinking about people that are against, or not for the belief of OU.
Yea, I can see these people, especially the ones 'against', that would try to put me up to such a task. All for the sake of implanting "FAKE" to all that see.

I rebuked the idea, if you remember. Why would someone want to disrupt someone from what they are already doing, to make 'another' fake out there? There are plenty already, Why should I waste the time the magnets or even the cost of that battery to build a battery powered motor and make it look like it is running without a battery, when Im looking for ways to get rid of the battery?

Why was it that you wanted me to make a fake? What was the goal of that idea?

MaGs

[MileHigh]

Bill:

I accept your apology.  I can make the distinction between outside parties or organizations that appear to be complete frauds and real experimenters around here that are legitimately trying to accomplish something.  But even if you are trying to accomplish something and your goals are sincere, one can not ignore the facts on the bench.  I agree that that's a delicate issue and I could probably do better.  But I am not in any way maliciously "going after" people, ever.

MileHigh

[Pirate88179]

MH:

I am very glad to hear that.  Yes, it can be a fine distinction sometimes as we don't always know the "goals" of the person posting a device. (ie Mylow)  We need folks here that know what they are doing and, I know you are one of them.  I look forward to your input on my next experimentation attempts.

Thank you,

Bill

[MileHigh]

Mags:

The goal for the fake was to demonstrate how if your friend or acquaintance could put up a clip of a motor that was fake, the way to prove it was a fake was to duplicate the effect - with another fake.

I suppose it's related to seeing an alleged free energy motor clip on YouTube - and clearly seeing that there is ample physical volume within the device to contain a battery or batteries, and not questioning if there might be hidden batteries.

Any time I see an alleged self-runner motor on YouTube I look for places to hide batteries, blow air, have an induction coil hidden behind a nearby surface, or if it appears that the video is being looped.  Likewise, with a 340P or even a 480P clip on YouTube you can sill run fine magnet wire that will either not be picked up by the camera or will be lost when the video is compressed.

Of course the fine magnet wire not being picked up by the camera or lost in the compression is related to the Mylow saga.  I did not figure out the solution to the Mylow mystery myself.

MileHigh