Relative Permittivity of Water

[canufi]

Hate to be the 1 to break it to you but...H2Opower is using T woodsides circuit, no diff from irondmax....the same 1 YOU "intend" on using yourself, so you might as well cozy up to that thought..  bit of a twist there .....H2Opower built what you want to attempt.

What a straw man argument... do you have a mental disorder of some kind, may I ask?
You seem to be missing basic logic skills.

Some people drive Honda's that are complete idiots and buffoons, so all Honda drivers are buffoons?

Do you know about something called logic and reasoning? because you don't seem to be able to reason or use logic.

If you see one white horse, does that mean all horses are white?
Are you familiar with basic logical reasoning and logical fallacy?

I don't care if Microsoft's Bill Gates has tried the 9XB circuit, that wouldn't make any difference to me.
Even if the buffoon known as Torana drove a honda, I wouldn't stop building or buying honda's just because one buffoon drove a honda.

Yes you need to look up "logical reasoning" and "logical fallacy" and "Argumentum ad populum" on google. Educate yourself.

Torana: "I saw a white horse, therefore logically all horses must be white."

Torana: "I saw a buffoon and complete idiot building a 9XB Stan Meyer circuit, therefore anyone who builds a 9XB is a white horse too"

really, are you that stupid? do you even know what a logical fallacy is?  Not likely since you're obviously not educated by Text books on logic and reasoning.

[Torana]

What??
Am I poor?  too poor to buy a Harley,car,house,lawn mower.....
whats my job? did you read this thread?
did you see the E.I.T manual ? whoops educated I self...

Show me where Ive complained and who to?  what about? is there a complaints department?
am I complaining to you?  what about?

did you read what I said about spelling/SM spelling /spell check??

wheres H2Opowers posts deleted and strangely missing?   why not ask him NOT ME!
http://www.truegreensolutions.net
http://hereticalbuilders.com/showthread.php?t=174

I actually miss him/her/canadian

No!  I did NOT rip into H2Opower and he didnt break down like you have.

Am I supposed to use smiley faces when ever I use Humour ?  is that a rule for computer geeks?
like ...."I thought he was canadian!"
"label the guy racist"
"Homble is spelt wrong"
"you is b'oring"
"you is a' waste of space!"
"you is a' hobbyist"
"We using a 9'XB"
"RRR you' serious?"
"you driv'e a Honda!"
"you b'uild Hondas?"

Extremely condescending attitude?  are you aware at all of your behaviour or how you react?
what triggered it?   

Have I ripped into you?  you appear to simply fall apart , if you can apply that to water , youre on ya way to your first  million bucks!

[Torana]

Have you run out of steam ?
thats what is called = Loss of control!  or lack of control..

I dont frequent these types of sites, look at the dates! have you read the thread?

obnoxious = very unpleasant; offensive
offensive = attacking- hostile action

**take a look at your behaviour = hostile?....attacking?...

White Horse ?  yea- I did see 1 . My sister had 7 horses= 1 black,1 white, 1 tan, 1 dapple, 3 brown.    2 were Gelding the rest were mares, 1 of which was a race horse= Patrae
we also had sheeps and cowz. ****Just ask if ya need photos.

So to reply to you..No!  not all horses are white,female or a race horse.

Why is it that the subject of Stan Meyers sends certain people in loops? 

[Torana]

According to SM , he used 2 books as reference
1; SAMS modern dictionary of electronics RF Graf
2; handbook of chemistry and physics 68th ed.

throughout SM docs he has the chem formulas

GASOLINE C10 H8

NATURAL GAS C5 H12

wheres the spelling mistakes? ...there are NONE , therefore that rules out micofische error, photo copier error ,optical character recognition error, fax error, type writer error, aswell as ruling out Human error.
Can SM reference ;hand book of chem and physics- be used to confirm those formulas?
Can the book be ruled out as a source of any error?
No chemistry book on Earth will support those formulas.

Through out SM docs and diagrams he has the dielectric value of water
= 78.54 OHMS @ 25c

wheres the spelling mistake?   there is NONE,  therefore that rules out microfische error, photocopier error, optical character recognition error, fax error, type writer error as well as Human error.

Can SM reference ; SAMS Mod dictionary of electronics -be used to confirm that measurement ?
Can the book be ruled out as the source of any error?
No EE/electronics/physics book on Earth will support that dielectric value,simply because it is NOT a dielectric value

If there is no human error then the other option to consider is =  Intentional deception based on how many times it was REPRINTED in diff docs -unedited and over the length of time it was sold while he was alive

[Torana]

Theres 32 E formulas in the TB , 9 are completely BOGUS and can NOT be traced back to SAMS Mod Dict of Electronics or any other book on planet earth.

One would think ,there must be a Logical explanation  why that would be.

only 7 apply to AC freq and 6 are simply filler.

SM info is rejected on EE,electronics and sciece forums on the basis that it is full of "mistakes" and non existant formulas followed by gibberish.

probably the single most important post= mindee4000

" so what the hell...since when permittivity is ohmic Resistance?
water permittivity is not the same as water ohmic Resistance"

=TRUE ..yet SM has written it repeatedly throughout his diagrams and docs as 78.54 OHMS.

Some how the post was directed at me ,so I thought it only fair to point out who the actual person responsible for any Misguidance. 

When considering water conductance , 1 cant go past infinite permittivity of a conductor or water as a solvent , (solvation)    oopps SM didnt mention that bit.

the only person in history who said water dielectric value is measured in OHMs is stan meyer ,and the only people in the world who continue to say it are SM devotees.

Ive seen a pattern thru the years where people try to separate religion from SM info in an attempt to legitimise the info but some how that doesnt work, its like peeling off layers of an onion and finding a LEMON.

The only positive out come is when people do their own research and before long SM info is abandoned .  = the step forward.