Captret - Capacitor and Electret

[plengo]

I started a new thread about the Captret and Tesla Switch experiment.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10175.msg268501#msg268501

Fausto.

[ibpointless2]

I don't think my Water captret is really a water captret, but it does show some capacitor and electret effect it just i don't want to confuse people with names. I name things the way i see it, and the water captret is just water and it acts like a capacitor and a electret so the name might stick. But for the record the water captret and the regular captret are two different thing that happen to be very same, if that makes any sense.

As for the water captret it also seems to be a water battery, well, it's more water battery than any water battery out their. I say this because it seems it might be consuming the water as a power source, the water is being transformed into hydrogen and oxygen from what i'm seeing. And unlike a normal water battery where it has two dissimilar metals and one of the metals is consumed this water captret has the same metals and still produce power without consuming the metals themselves.

So in-fact the water captret are merely batteries, when used produce hydrogen. So that voltage amiplication i was seeing in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGQmHY0ervQ was merely do to the fact that the water captret is a battery that was put in series to give me more voltage. So if you think this who experiment is a bust, you're forgetting that in order to have a water battery you needed two dissimilar metals but yet the water captret is the same metals that use regular old tap water- this is amazing.

The water captrets can be used by them selfs as batteries and they can be hooked in parallel and charge a capacitor too. when you do use them bubbles start to form on the pates and i believe they're hydrogen and oxygen bubbles. Whats even more crazy is that you can short the water captret out and bubbles will start form, so even when shorted its producing power. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITf0zNdNK0M
its crazy to think that you can make hydrogen without any power needed.

So this is what i've seen so far, its easy to copy this experiment and cheap too so please do try yourself.

[gravityblock]

As for the water captret it also seems to be a water battery, well, it's more water battery than any water battery out their. I say this because it seems it might be consuming the water as a power source, the water is being transformed into hydrogen and oxygen from what i'm seeing. And unlike a normal water battery where it has two dissimilar metals and one of the metals is consumed this water captret has the same metals and still produce power without consuming the metals themselves.

So in-fact the water captret are merely batteries, when used produce hydrogen. So that voltage amiplication i was seeing in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGQmHY0ervQ was merely do to the fact that the water captret is a battery that was put in series to give me more voltage. So if you think this who experiment is a bust, you're forgetting that in order to have a water battery you needed two dissimilar metals but yet the water captret is the same metals that use regular old tap water- this is amazing.

It's a bust, because you don't need two dissimilar metals in order to have a water battery, as you can see from the below excerpt from the Variable Electrolytic Capacitor publication, http://home.earthlink.net/~lenyr/varelec.htm

Both electrodes can be aluminum if you want to make a capacitor capable of working with ac voltages.

GB

[ibpointless2]

It’s all starting to make sense now.

I’ve been playing with a type of water battery that is very different than the ordinary water battery in that it uses the same metals and not dis-similar metals that other water batteries use. With this water battery I’m able to get voltage when both plates are put in water. Both plates are Aluminum foil, ones thicker than the other and the size of them affect it too. With these water batteries they can be shorted out for long periods of time and once you take the short off they still have the same voltage.

So why is this important?

Well if we look at the Capacitor we’ll start seeing some similarities. Both a capacitor and my water battery (water captret) have plates that are the same metal and which is aluminum. Both Hold voltage and the amount of voltage are dependent on the thickness and size. So what happens when you short out a capacitor? There’s a mysterious bounce back of voltage, as if it is just like the water battery (water captret).  So now it’s all making sense, the water battery (water captret) is just a brother (if not clone) of the capacitor. Water captret effect would explain why capacitors gain voltage even though they were shorted out; it’s due to the aluminum plates in the liquid.

Now time for a little more craziness. Those of you who know about me I’ve started this thing called the captret, it’s basically takes one capacitor and gives another Lead by using the case. So the case of a capacitor is aluminum too and at a different size than the aluminum inside the capacitor, and since its aluminum I can use it to get voltage too. Since the water captret is just a capacitor I can easily make it a captret too just by adding another piece of aluminum of different size. So I can have the water captret have one positive plate and two, three, four, or however many negative plates as I want with each producing their own voltage.

This is just must me putting forth why I think capacitors have a spontaneous self-charge on them even when left shorted out. I’ve come to this conclusion due to my studies of the Water captret “water battery” use of similar metals.  Hope this helps others in their confusion with capacitors; it seems they’re much simpler and much more complicated than once thought. Now all we got to do is figure out why two similar metals give a voltage.

[shylo]

Hi Ib if the two pieces of foil are not exactly the same mass, one will give to the less to be equall................shylo