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Captret - Capacitor and Electret

Started by ibpointless2, October 19, 2010, 06:49:51 PM

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gmeast

Quote from: ibpointless2 on November 14, 2010, 07:17:17 PM

Isn't your current a little high? The current should have gone down over time if you have used the original circuit.

And if you're using the original captret design, then that one was never set out to be overunity but merely a LED driver circuit. Its the captret circuits that charge themselves is what is interesting. I've got a few that charge themselves from a standing voltage. Lasersaber got a super cap charging it self. Many others are seeing the same effect.

I think you may have jump the gun on this one. But thanks for the insight.

Initially it was the self-charging circuit that drew my attention.  In fact I thought it was astounding when I went to my storage trailer find a cap, the one I chose was a 60,000 uF cap that had been sitting for over 4 months.  It had nearly 6V in it and I remember shorting it for about an hour before storing it ... something I always do with big caps.  I've always noticed the self-charging characteristics of electrolytic caps and I though your show might be a refinement.  The only thing is, I didn't see any enhanced effect over what an electrolytic cap does by itself.  The fact that you can discharge the small stored energy into an led using the (-) and the can is novel, but that is why they wrap them in an insulator ... to prevent an unintentional discharge on the PCB.  A benefit yet might unfold.  Now I have to go and study the Electret again ... bah humbug

gravityblock

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

ibpointless2

Quote from: gravityblock on November 14, 2010, 09:44:02 PM
Revealing the Mystery of Negative Impedance, http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Talk:Circuit_Idea/Revealing_the_Mystery_of_Negative_Impedance

Negative impedance converter, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_impedance_converter

GB


so are you trying to say that the captret is a negative capacitor? "Negacitor" has a nice ring to it?   ;D

gravityblock

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gmeast

Quote from: ibpointless2 on November 14, 2010, 09:56:00 PM

so are you trying to say that the captret is a negative capacitor? "Negacitor" has a nice ring to it?   ;D

If the elements get 'cold' then the "Negacaptret" would be a 'negative' device.

Well, I have a dead NiMH battery hooked to 250V 47uF cap, case fed back to -.  Presently at 0.3591VDC.  It's a 'hidave fast charger'.  We'll see what happens  by morning.  It's 9:20 PM mountain time.