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Started by elgersmad, October 31, 2010, 02:01:24 AM

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exnihiloest

Quote from: elgersmad on November 04, 2010, 03:57:12 AM
I've built and tested the entire schematic.
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I have already posted these questions:
Quote from: exnihiloest on November 04, 2010, 04:22:09 AM
Could you show us photos? I don't well understand how is connected the quartz tube.
And how did you lead measurements to demonstrate OU? Can you present them?

In at least 40 lines of your reply, I didn't find a single answer to one of my simple questions but simplistic generalities.
I must conclude you have no photos, you have neither measurement protocol nor measurement data, you have probably not built any thing, and you have only a ltspice shematic whose simulation module naturally disproves OU.
Case closed!


elgersmad

Quote from: exnihiloest on November 09, 2010, 02:53:11 AM
I have already posted these questions:
In at least 40 lines of your reply, I didn't find a single answer to one of my simple questions but simplistic generalities.
I must conclude you have no photos, you have neither measurement protocol nor measurement data, you have probably not built any thing, and you have only a ltspice shematic whose simulation module naturally disproves OU.
Case closed!

Build 10 circuits that operate at 10 different frequencies and explain the results.  Oh, damn, you know that would just be a set of equations.  Other than that, I don't want you in my house, and pictures from inside, are just like letting you and everyone else inside.  I'm not taking pictures, and I could care less if you don't know anything about my furniture, carpet, shoe size or any of that.  I don't see how a picture of one transformer at my house, which looks just like another at anyone elses, is any different.  You can buy every single part I use.  If you want to see a doorknob capacitor or powdered iron toroid core just like mine, you can find those online too.  No need at all to waste my time packing a camera around my house just for you.  I won't do that because, I owe you no work of any kind at all. I don't owe you anything for your doubts.  It just tells me that you don't do the math, or don't have First Year College Electronics under your belt.  I've often found some kid trying to play bigshot hiding under show me, and capitalizing on nothing works as a declaration and constant.  You'd tell me a vacuum tube amplifier wouldn't work, or you couldn't use a magnetic amplifier for a louder boom box.  As long as you've haven't seen it, you'll maintain that it don't work.  The truth is more likely you don't even have enough an education to make or conclude with any math at all.  You may quote a scientist, that didn't work with this set of components.

Known Factors Concerning Parallel Tuned Circuits

That condition exists for every capacitor in parallel with a primary winding of every transformer in the schematic.  What is written in the text is true except when Xc and XL are low at the resonant frequency.  1 Ohm, will result in a very high current and a caclatable high voltage.  I also know that when you build a circuit like that that the output impedance of a driver would need to be impedance matched to Xc and XL in parallel as if they were both DC resistances in order to see it reach it's peak output voltage and currents at resonance.  If Xc = 1 ohm, and XL = 1 ohm, the output impedance of the driver circuit must be less than 0.5 ohms.  If I use a plain old signal generator, I'll never see the applied voltage across the circuit, and it's impedance will never rise to the calculated value.  So, at 100 volts, I would need 200 amperes of current.  If Q of the inductor is 300 at that frequency, the impedance will rise to 300 ohms, and the 200 amperes of current will still be present in the parallel tank circuit.  The transformer arrangement amplifies the power.  Pout, in the final stage is equal to Pin * Q of the first inductor/primary winding at the resonant frequency, 8 Q of the second inductor/primary of the second transformer at the same resonant frequency etc for each stage added to the circuit.  At 1 Mhz it's easy to see values of Q that are all in the 100s or 1000s.  As long as you use the power as I had instructed, unloaded secondary plasma bulb, or extract the heat from the transformer cores, you will not interrupt the condition of the circuit's operation in such a manner as to change any of the critical component wise situations and be able to extract the energy as heat.

Thermoelectric Generator Cells  Liquid cooling the core, allows you to generate power.  With the plasma light, you can use solar cells to generate enough electricity to keep the bulb running.  But, you would need a running bulb to calculate how many cells.

spinn_MP

Quote from: elgersmad on November 09, 2010, 04:40:27 PM
Build 10 circuits that operate at 10 different frequencies and explain the results.  Oh, damn, you know that would just be a set of equations.  Other than that, I don't want you in my house, and pictures from inside, are just like letting you and everyone else inside.  I'm not taking pictures, and I could care less if you don't know anything about my furniture, carpet, shoe size or any of that.  I don't see how a picture of one transformer at my house, which looks just like another at anyone elses, is any different.  You can buy every single part I use.  If you want to see a doorknob capacitor or powdered iron toroid core just like mine, you can find those online too.  No need at all to waste my time packing a camera around my house just for you.  I won't do that because, I owe you no work of any kind at all.

It all fits.
Elgersmad, don't be silly. You came here with "just" an idea, not with the working (OU) device.
Try again, if you care.

Maybe some magic powder iron cores, or at least correct spice models for your sims.


elgersmad

Quote from: spinn_MP on November 09, 2010, 05:02:42 PM
It all fits.
Elgersmad, don't be silly. You came here with "just" an idea, not with the working (OU) device.
Try again, if you care.

Maybe some magic powder iron cores, or at least correct spice models for your sims.

A skeptic doesn't require an education, just a negative opinion without substance.  How are you going to prove me wrong, without building one.  Upon inspection, will every single stage be properly tuned?  If you are so concieted, then I doubt you will be willing to admit being wrong, and sabbotage the circuit you build just to make your lie convincing.  You don't deny that you won't spend money on it.  You explain that by insisting it won't work.  So, you'll never produce anything substantial to prove me wrong.  At the point, I've already admitted to buying parts, and am shopping for them, you are not about to spend two cents in that effect.  I have plenty cores laying around, and none of them are magic.  I still get the results, and perfecting the simulator, only helps find the right value of capacitance the first time.  Electronics Workbench, already produces results that really reflect the real circuit outputs.  The difference is that the capacitor values you'll be finding that work in the simulations will not match the real values you'll wind using to get the same results in a actual circuit.  The results will match.  But, the simple fact that the spice model is not perfectly modeling the actual transformer in operation, makes those values of capcitance wrong.  So, even when you use measured values, you'll find that the final tuning will not be the same.  It doesn't change the schematic, it doesn't change the printed circuit board, it just makes it easier to get the right part values on the first trip to the store.

spinn_MP

Quote from: elgersmad on November 09, 2010, 05:30:23 PM
A skeptic doesn't require an education, just a negative opinion without substance.  How are you going to prove me wrong, without building one.  Upon inspection, will every single stage be properly tuned?  If you are so concieted, then I doubt you will be willing to admit being wrong, and sabbotage the circuit you build just to make your lie convincing.  You don't deny that you won't spend money on it.  You explain that by insisting it won't work.  So, you'll never produce anything substantial to prove me wrong.  At the point, I've already admitted to buying parts, and am shopping for them, you are not about to spend two cents in that effect.  I have plenty cores laying around, and none of them are magic.  I still get the results, and perfecting the simulator, only helps find the right value of capacitance the first time.  Electronics Workbench, already produces results that really reflect the real circuit outputs.  The difference is that the capacitor values you'll be finding that work in the simulations will not match the real values you'll wind using to get the same results in a actual circuit.  The results will match.  But, the simple fact that the spice model is not perfectly modeling the actual transformer in operation, makes those values of capcitance wrong.  So, even when you use measured values, you'll find that the final tuning will not be the same.  It doesn't change the schematic, it doesn't change the printed circuit board, it just makes it easier to get the right part values on the first trip to the store.

Lol, how typical. The guy is so full of himself that he cannot even see his own faults...

Oh, you're buying parts at the moment? Good luck!


"Elger's mad"?  Lol.