http://www.edisonscurrent.com/
Someone selling plans.
Anyone made experience with these?
I found this: http://www.scribd.com/doc/43247744/Edisons-Current-Blueprints-Main-eBook (http://www.scribd.com/doc/43247744/Edisons-Current-Blueprints-Main-eBook)
Maybe the same thing?
Quote from: mr2 on November 19, 2010, 01:20:06 PM
I found this: http://www.scribd.com/doc/43247744/Edisons-Current-Blueprints-Main-eBook (http://www.scribd.com/doc/43247744/Edisons-Current-Blueprints-Main-eBook)
Maybe the same thing?
I went through most of the scribd e-book until I got to the full schematic near the end(pg. 54 of the manuscript.) Looks like a rotoverter AC-type of arrangement with the output connected to a twin coil Kapanadze-style grounded output setup.
(Look at the scribd book near the end and you'll see what I mean.)
I would simplify the whole thing by replacing the AC input with a heavy duty signal generator that varies the voltage and frequency to the Kapanadze coil. Then experiment with maximum available output.
--Lee
Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on November 19, 2010, 06:12:16 PM
I went through most of the scribd e-book until I got to the full schematic near the end(pg. 54 of the manuscript.) Looks like a rotoverter AC-type of arrangement with the output connected to a twin coil Kapanadze-style grounded output setup.
(Look at the scribd book near the end and you'll see what I mean.)
I would simplify the whole thing by replacing the AC input with a heavy duty signal generator that varies the voltage and frequency to the Kapanadze coil. Then experiment with maximum available output.
--Lee
Post a new schematic of your design and keep us updated as to your progress.
When you're ready I'll gladly try to replicate it to prove it can be replicated.
DonL
Quote from: dllabarre on November 20, 2010, 06:28:35 PM
Post a new schematic of your design and keep us updated as to your progress.
When you're ready I'll gladly try to replicate it to prove it can be replicated.
DonL
I agree in principle. The problem is, I'm on a borrowed computer, and this site doesn't allow downloading from off-site IP's. Furthermore, I have no scanner to upload data to Overunity's server.
Believe me, guys, I'd rather be doing active research like everyone here. My Dad was an electronic experimenter in conjunction with his job. (He designed data logging/analog-to-digital conversion instruments for the aerospace industry in the 60's.)
However, try these:
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=392.msg6830;topicseen#msg6830
Replies #9 & #10, Pg. 1
I'm glad to upload circuits and point someone in a potentially promising direction.
(You do have the scribd link I posted.)
I just have no money to spare, the freedom to act and recent practical experience to fall back on while living in this slum, however.
I encourage you to look and think with an open mind, though. I sure try to.
--Lee
Is it this what you want?
There is something VERY, VERY fishy about this $49 Edison Gen. If the $49 Edison Unit can power a house, why is it connected to a Tariel Kapanasze Generator? It sure looks like the Edison folks are trying to pull a "fast one."
Or to look at it the other way, if the Edison Folks's $49 Tariel Gen Copy can power a house, WHY is it connected to a MECHANICAL GENERATOR?
Something is really STRANGE here. Please see the Tariel Kapanadze Thread here on OverUnity to see what I mean.
PLUS, WHY AREN'T THEY TELLING FOLKS THEY WILL NEED A GASOLINE ENGINE OR LARGE ELECTRIC MOTOR TO SPIN THEIR MECHANICAL GENERATOR?
There is an Old Saying, BUYER BEWARE. Could that apply in this case? Hmmmmmmmm.
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Quote from: nievesoliveras on November 20, 2010, 07:13:33 PM
Is it this what you want?
Precisely. I can print files---which I did, with this drawing. I'm disallowed to save and upload files.
--Lee
Quote from: FatBird on November 20, 2010, 07:42:55 PM
There is something VERY, VERY fishy about this $49 Edison Gen. If the $49 Edison Unit can power a house, why is it connected to a Tariel Kapanasze Generator? It sure looks like the Edison folks are trying to pull a "fast one."
...
Or to look at it the other way, if the Edison Folks's $49 Tariel Gen Copy can power a house, WHY is it connected to a MECHANICAL Magnetic Generator?
...
Something is really STRANGE here. Please see the Tariel Kapanadze Thread here on OverUnity to see what I mean.
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Well, after looking at the drawing in Reply #5: The motor contraption could be replaced with a solid state signal generator, yes?
The motor should be unnecessary, IMO.
--Lee
Quote from: FatBird on November 20, 2010, 07:42:55 PM
Something is really STRANGE here. Please see the Tariel Kapanadze Thread here on OverUnity to see what I mean.
You may have a point:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7679.1110
Reply #1120, Pg. 75 of the thread
Here's another:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7679.1140
Reply #1144, Pg. 77 of the thread
--Lee
Thanks for investigating.
Which part of the device provides an energy gain ?
99 % of the FE experimenters / posters have no clue how the
kapanadze device really works.
@the_big_m_in_ok : I don't get it. Ok there is no connection.
THis thing works as an antenna?
(btw there are many in this forum that like to fool other people, nothing
is proven all in question)
Got an email from a Dan Verch who wanted to sell this plan .
I had my Kapanadze coil similar to romeroUK and there was no Overunity
there (Had a wattmeter , the number of bulbs burning which I compared in brightness to a normally to mains connected one)
Quote from: TheCell on November 21, 2010, 06:49:11 AM
Thanks for investigating.
Which part of the device provides an energy gain ?
The part on the right side of the "rectifier" in the drawing of Reply post #5, this thread.
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99 % of the FE experimenters / posters have no clue how the
kapanadze device really works.
Tariel Kapanadze may be the only one who know Kapanadze's work.
He invented it, an I believe he said in an interview that two parts of his generator were in resonance(true, I believe?) with each other(he pointed to 2 parts of a prototype next to him) and that he might have gained some inspiration from Tesla.
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@the_big_m_in_ok : I don't get it. Ok there is no connection.
The drawing on Reply post #6? Two wires aren't actually connected? Is that what you mean?
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THis thing works as an antenna?
The drawing in post #6 is probably incorrect. The one in Post #5 should work better, especially if the input from the source on the left side is impedance matched like the coils of a Tesla coil or a Kapanadze setup---on the right side.
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(btw there are many in this forum that like to fool other people, nothing
is proven all in question)
Well, you have half a point. There are some serious, dedicated and experienced experimenters on the Forums, but also, there are a few people who can be confusing
and everything
is in question.
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Got an email from a Dan Verch who wanted to sell this plan .
The same one as in this thread?
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I had my Kapanadze coil similar to romeroUK and there was no Overunity
there (Had a wattmeter , the number of bulbs burning which I compared in brightness to a normally to mains connected one)
What was your input power? Can you compare input to output power?
--Lee
Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on November 20, 2010, 07:59:15 PM
Well, after looking at the drawing in Reply #5: The motor contraption could be replaced with a solid state signal generator, yes?
The motor should be unnecessary, IMO.
Case in point:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7679.new;topicseen#new
Reply #4604, Pg. 307
Just replace the motor-generator in Reply #5 with the signal generator above. A simpler signal generator would be a 555?
--Lee
Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on November 22, 2010, 06:53:44 PM
The part on the right side of the "rectifier" in the drawing of Reply post #5, this thread.
Speaking of a "rectifier", here's a suggestion for the Testatika-researchers?
Take a fairly large number of germanium or silicon diodes, wire them together in series and then wrap them around a non-conductive coil form the size of a toilet tube roll? That way you can approximate the action of a "Coil Rectifier Diode" in the original Testatika.
Without the unknown factors and potentially high cost.
However, your 'coil rectifier' won't be the same as the original rectifier. Some allowances will possibly need to be made to account for this fact.
--Lee
The "motor looking thing" on the left of the drawing is from the booklet "PMG Construction Manual" by Hugh Piggott February 2001. http://www.oneworld.org/itdg or http://itdg.org.pe.
The PMG is a Permanent Magnet Generator designed for use with wind or hydro. the illustration appears in the introduction on page 2 of the booklet. The manual was funded by the UK government and shows detailed construction of a wind generator from easily obtained parts and simple construction techniques.
The EdisonsCurrent device appears to consist of combining a reliable wind generator design with a questionable coil/capacitor device. There does not appear to be any method to cause the PMG to rotate. It seems that the EdisonsCurrent is coming from the coil/capacitor unit and will operate the PMG, but the battery is shown on the opposite side, so that the charging current would be coming from the coil/capacitor device not the PMG. This does not make sense to me.
This is a very old scam and it changes names and sites each time it is advertised. They claim the energy giants are trying to shut them down. No, it would actually be the local DA's office for fraud. When they resurface after being shut down, they will claim the same things until they're shut down again.
Here is the original manual. without the Kapanadze part.
http://www.scoraigwind.com/pmgbooklet/itpmg.pdf
Quote from: nievesoliveras on November 24, 2010, 07:01:58 AM
Here is the original manual. without the Kapanadze part.
http://www.scoraigwind.com/pmgbooklet/itpmg.pdf
You're right. Rotating motor affair would best be used on a wind generator, which might be why there was no mention of spinning it with outside power of some kind in the edisoncurrent book. Not even performance test results to prove it works.
This is a stupid ripoff.
--Lee