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Title: something i just came up with
Post by: jedinite on May 20, 2006, 06:07:31 PM
I was just playing with a program i just intalled on my pc and was playing with lines and this is what i came up with. it looks like it might work with weighted balls, water or water bags to keep the water all together shoot i cant seem to get the pics up sorry all if any one can tell me how to do this i will upload the pic asap but i will leave one in the attach file box
Title: Re: something i just came up with
Post by: FreeEnergy on May 20, 2006, 07:18:23 PM
i think this has been done before and it did not work.
Title: Re: something i just came up with
Post by: JackH on May 20, 2006, 09:03:34 PM
Hello jedinite,

If you notice in the drawings that there are more balls close to the shaft than there are balls away from the shaft.   The total weight of the balls will ballance out on both sides, most likely.

This kinda thing has been tryed again and again.  I have tryed numerous times at a gravity wheel.  In all casses the combined weight allways ballances out even on both sides.

Later,,,,,JackH
Title: Re: something i just came up with
Post by: Gregory on May 24, 2006, 08:23:55 PM
Hi jedinite,

Not work. Leonardo Da Vinci was already tried this. ;)

There are three balls on the left side, and five balls on the right, and this is not good.
You always need the same number of balls on the sides in every position of the wheel, when it's turning. If you thinking it about a little, you can recognize this can't be done through an easy geometrical way.

The balls move faster in some areas, and move slower in other areas. Spend more time in some areas, and spend less time in other areas. But always the same number of balls are on the two sides.
How can you achieve this?

And please consider torque-pairs with the sides.
Do experiments with levers, and complex levers.

This thing is not as easy as many people believe...
Title: Re: something i just came up with
Post by: hartiberlin on May 24, 2006, 08:45:22 PM
You can only achive something, if you use springs to store the
energy of the weights in the gravity field.
Ifthe weights have been going down, they will be pulled up
by the stored energy of the springs.
This is the only way you can shift lever arms and not LOOSE the
potential energy of the weights ! Store them in springs !
Title: Re: something i just came up with
Post by: lancaIV on May 24, 2006, 09:50:36 PM
US3879622 ?

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Title: Re: something i just came up with
Post by: hartiberlin on May 26, 2006, 05:09:13 PM
No,
not the Ecklin patent:
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=US3879622&F=8

Readmy sentences again..
Just a perpetuum mobile, that uses gravity and springs
to shift lever arms...
Title: Re: something i just came up with
Post by: jedinite on June 05, 2006, 01:15:31 PM
thank you all for the replies i'm understanding more and more about what works and what doesn't, i'm still working on it. always coming up with new ideas most do not work but i'm starting to understand the complex balinsing act of it all an i think i'm getting closer to a salution every day. i'll come back soon with some results i hope.