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Energy from Natural Resources => Electrolysis of H20 and Hydrogen on demand generation => Topic started by: wizkycho on May 22, 2006, 02:01:41 PM

Title: MAHG by jlnLabs
Post by: wizkycho on May 22, 2006, 02:01:41 PM
   Soon as I get my hand (purchase) some Current Clamps measuring instrument and finish experimenting with hydrogen and oxygen mixture
(which will end as hydrogen boost in my diesel car), I'll jump on replicating astonishing MAHG
that needs to be made with simpler housing (thinking copper pipe (water runs through it) winded in cylinder around tungsten). Scince Jean Louis found out that smaller the input greater the COP (from 5 Watts gets 100 Watts using only 20A not initial 60A), dont'think that Molybden is needed in contacts. Contacts only need to be made bigger in order to spread tungsten's temperature.

But there is one thing I would like to know that I don't understand from drawings.
How much tungsten wire (lenght) is actually in the rection chamber and where to purchase it cheaply ?

Thx
Igor Knitel
Title: Re: MAHG by jlnLabs
Post by: wizkycho on October 28, 2008, 10:57:10 AM
Hi All !

Well after a while found out I can not get hands on 0.2 - 0.3mm wolfram (tungsteen) wire
so I come up with an idea to use halogen bulbs.
Remove quartz glass by clamping with table clamp just to break glass and don't break tungsteen wire. that way I'll get open tungsteen
wire and connecting pins. 12 or more such prepared bulbs will be placed radialy (in circular fashion) and fastened with nuts.
see pic
it will all be sealed in copper disc (with some additional copper ribs) with welder for electronic components and tinol.(engl. word?)

What do all You think ?

for details and dimmensions open the drawing

Wiz
Title: Re: MAHG by jlnLabs
Post by: wizkycho on October 28, 2008, 10:59:49 AM
Hi all !

how to insert Hydrogen and make it underpressured at 0.1 ATM ?

Any practicall procedures for that ?

wiz
Title: Re: MAHG by jlnLabs
Post by: mscoffman on October 28, 2008, 01:00:05 PM
Quote from: wizkycho on October 28, 2008, 10:59:49 AM
Hi all !

how to insert Hydrogen and make it underpressured at 0.1 ATM ?

Any practicall procedures for that ?

wiz

My understanding is that MAHG core unit is packaged like a Power Vacuum Tube,
that would be, they pull a very low vacuum then use a getter to remove any remaining
oxygen. Once that is accomplished then they introduce the hydrogen. Otherwise the hydrogen
would recombine with any oxygen in there once the operating power is applied to the unit.

Really, you should try to try to obtain one of the 300 core units that were made by the Russians
and/or else get Power Vacuum Tube reverse manufacturing expertise. I'm sure that was
the model they used to produce it in the first place.

I wish you luck and it is an interesting overunity process.

:S:MarkSCoffman
Title: Re: MAHG by jlnLabs
Post by: wizkycho on October 29, 2008, 04:40:02 AM
Quote from: mscoffman on October 28, 2008, 01:00:05 PMReally, you should try to try to obtain one of the 300 core units that were made by the Russians
and/or else get Power Vacuum Tube reverse manufacturing expertise. I'm sure that was
the model they used to produce it in the first place.

I wish you luck and it is an interesting overunity process.

:S:MarkSCoffman


Of course oxygen will have "blow-up" potential so I'l be very carefull, like allways doing something with hydrogen - especially conatined in copper box !!!

Try to obtain one of  300 core units !?
- where to start and how are those core units made ?

Thx
wiz
Title: Re: MAHG by jlnLabs
Post by: Gearhead on October 29, 2008, 10:26:46 AM
 It might be easier to use a large borosilicate glass tube and seal the ends using a torch to heat them and squash them together. you could experiment a bit with some trial pieces.  You can obtain large diameter tubing off of ebay that are used for solar water heaters.  The downside to using copper is that hydrogen and particularly monatomic hydrogen goes through the smallest of holes and possibly though the metal itself. 

If you want to see an example of this type of seal, take the metal off the end of a light bulb.  Glass is very easy to fabricate in this way with a little practice.
Title: Re: MAHG by jlnLabs
Post by: mscoffman on October 29, 2008, 11:55:36 AM
Quote from: wizkycho on October 29, 2008, 04:40:02 AM
Of course oxygen will have "blow-up" potential so I'l be very carefull, like allways doing something with hydrogen - especially conatined in copper box !!!

Try to obtain one of  300 core units !?
- where to start and how are those core units made ?

Thx
wiz


It's more than safety...you don't want other chemical reactions occurring between any more than the
hydrogen and tungsten metal wire. For example, you would not want any water forming in there shorting things out when you apply the HV ramp energy. Chemical reactions can occur both forward and backwards and would most likely get in the the way of the effects you want to see. This excess
heat is not from a "ray" like reaction, but it's not a pure chemical reaction either so you probably
want the tungsten wire in kind of a random "cotton ball" arrangement trying to maximise surface
area. I assume (and I could be wrong) that a plasma ignites in this tube, then nonstandard
heating things happen. So do as Gearhead suggests.

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