I've posted here before about my generator design, and even posted a link to my blog about converting a dead alternator into a high torque, high RPM, 3 phase motor.
I've tried getting people not affiliated with big oil or government out here to test my systems, but it was nothing but a run around. Their more closed minded than the skeptics, and condemn EVERYTHING without so much as looking. Namely Mark Dansie and his people.
NOW I'm seeking audience from oil companies, the military, the government, and anyone else wanting the systems for PROFIT. I know most of them don't post here and just watch, so here's my personal email address.
AND I DON'T WANT UNEDUCATED DUMMIES GIVING ME WARNINGS ABOUT HOW DANGEROUS POSTING MY EMAIL IS! KEEP YOUR NOSE ON YOUR OWN FACE!
babygirl8181980@gmail.com
C'mon man... Defense contractors like L******* and R******* et all have had these systems for 20+ years, probably more like 50 years. At this point , I'm sure their technology is highly evolved nth generation full life cycle units, in full production for black budget.
No personal offense here, but Why would they care about converting a dead alternator to a high torque high RPM 3phase motor? You are better off open-sourcing it if it's legit; no one makes money off free energy.
As bolt says, and I agree, the days of the 80s and 90s are over. No investor funds this stuff. You want to create it, you have to fund it off your own spare change or with assistance of family and friends. That's just the sad reality of the world we live in.
Quote from: Feynman on March 12, 2011, 11:54:38 PM
C'mon man... Defense contractors like L******* and R******* et all have had these systems for 20+ years, probably more like 50 years. At this point , I'm sure their technology is highly evolved nth generation full life cycle units, in full production for black budget.
No personal offense here, but Why would they care about converting a dead alternator to a high torque high RPM 3phase motor? You are better off open-sourcing it if it's legit; no one makes money off free energy.
As bolt says, and I agree, the days of the 80s and 90s are over. No investor funds this stuff. You want to create it, you have to fund it off your own spare change or with assistance of family and friends. That's just the sad reality of the world we live in.
Can't agree more. The goal get our studies in the mainstream of science so that funding which now goes for sheer crap to be funneled into avenues such as OU which will benefit humanity. This is an idealistic (no profit involved), purely scientific pursuit which should be conducted as openly as possible.
Quote from: Omnibus on March 13, 2011, 12:35:47 AM
Can't agree more. The goal get our studies in the mainstream of science so that funding which now goes for sheer crap to be funneled into avenues such as OU which will benefit humanity. This is an idealistic (no profit involved), purely scientific pursuit which should be conducted as openly as possible.
Get it into mainstream science. That shouldn't take long. If you go the scientific route you can forget it. Nothing will ever happen. You really need to get family and friends to loan you some money so that you can build one. If it is OU and it can be replicated, why would you care what the scientist have to say. I would care less.
Isn't there a moderator to curb the troll @MrMag. Incompetent people such as @MrMag should not set the tone of this forum and should not be allowed to destroy the discussions.
Babygirl,
You seem like you have made attempts to build this?
A while back [few months]you sent me some info,
I have to be Honest,I don't understand it!
Voltage increase is one thing......................
"CURRENT" That is the POWER to loop!!
I will also not discuss it with anyone without your permision!
This man Feynman that responded here,
He knows motors very well!
Are you looking to "Cash In",Or open source?
It is a different day ,Big changes are about.........
And The Saudi stock market is going thru the roof!!
Whatcha Gonna do??
Chetkremens@Gmail.com
Quote from: Omnibus on March 13, 2011, 03:27:34 AM
Isn't there a moderator to curb the troll @MrMag. Incompetent people such as @MrMag should not set the tone of this forum and should not be allowed to destroy the discussions.
Just because I disagree with your comment you call me a troll. Why would my comment make me incompetent? I think my comment is a little more realistic then your babble. Sticks and stones.
Sorry for this post Babygirl, but this guy who tries to come across as a scientist is always commenting that I am a troll. He's just an arrogant ass, I would ignore him.
Quote from: MrMag on March 13, 2011, 04:22:54 PM
Just because I disagree with your comment you call me a troll. Why would my comment make me incompetent? I think my comment is a little more realistic then your babble. Sticks and stones.
Sorry for this post Babygirl, but this guy who tries to come across as a scientist is always commenting that I am a troll. He's just an arrogant ass, I would ignore him.
You don't disagree with my comments. You blabber incoherently. Disagreement with arguments means presenting counter arguments, not blabbering negativity without any foundation as you're doing. You are incompetent and therefore you cannot offer counter arguments. Therefore, you should know your place and not disturb the conversations which people competent in the matters at hand are carrying out here. You're having a free run only because there are no moderators to cut off your impudent intrusions in the important discussions we're carrying out here. Lately this board has been infested with trolls like you, unfortunately.
haha same goes for you !
Funding isn't going to help you guy's you need something else.
Quote from: Omnibus on March 13, 2011, 04:47:16 PM
You don't disagree with my comments. You blabber incoherently. Disagreement with arguments means presenting counter arguments, not blabbering negativity without any foundation as you're doing. You are incompetent and therefore you cannot offer counter arguments. Therefore, you should know your place and not disturb the conversations which people competent in the matters at hand are carrying out here. You're having a free run only because there are no moderators to cut off your impudent intrusions in the important discussions we're carrying out here. Lately this board has been infested with trolls like you, unfortunately.
If my comment was incoherent to you, you have a problem.
Quote from: MrMag on March 13, 2011, 06:10:26 PM
If my comment was incoherent to you, you have a problem.
You are incompetent and you should curb your comments because nonsense such as yours only clogs the discussions and disrupts them.
Quote from: -[marco]- on March 13, 2011, 04:50:33 PM
haha same goes for you !
Funding isn't going to help you guy's you need something else.
What, for instance?
Do you know how many patents there are on free energy devices the last 100 years most of which have expired? ... Thousands and thousands. Quite a few may have worked but never got funding. The best ones of course are locked up under national security.
1970's - 90's expensive magnet/pulsed motors producing OU and or looped are two for a penny. Ask Joe Newman, EVgray etc they tried hard enough even got scientific people to prove it. Most generators will cost to crank out 5kw -10kw at least $50-100k to build with special machine parts in today's market. No one gave a crap then despite hundreds of public viewings all over the US and elsewhere and no one gives a crap now. Back then quite a lot of projects DID get massive funding $100 mio there $50 mio there but most of it wasted and nothing to show for it. Not for the technology but due to intense greed they all spent like it was lotto cash.
You need a solid state device cheap using off the shelf parts otherwise don't bother. Then you need to open source it and make it widely available till the hundred monkey syndrome kicks in. Ismael is the latest with his electric car COP 2.7 out of his MEG and DOE certified for 134% on the dyno for transmission but i see no sign of any one putting in bids in unless they want to take full control of the technology and suppress it.
So you open source it like Linux. Everyone benefits and improves the technology. You get contracts to make specials for people that need something unique or don't have the time, skills to make it but have money and can SEE it actually works as others are using it. You starts small make one sell it. Buy parts for 2 make them sell em make 4 etc within a few weeks you got so much work and so much money you can never cope in a lifetime.
@ Bolt
I completely agree with you about open source, it's the only way, otherwise the investor gets the upper hand and we'll never see it commercially available.
There are lots more OU claims and devices coming out lately so it's all a matter of time before one of the devices comes with enough information to validate it in a cheap method for all to replicate easily using off the shelf parts.
BTW: The Rosemary Ainslie circuit looks easy enough to put in a kit form less batteries, is there enough people willing to buy the kit to try it? I don't know but I know I would be willing to try it if the price was right.
@ questioneverything
Do you have the above device that's proven OU and easily replicable?
If so show us how to do it and we'll make you famous and get you paid what you deserve in a open source licensing model :) I'm sure everyone would agree to do that, show us how to achieve OU and we'll compensate you once we can build one and make it work as an OU device.
Regards,
Paul
Problem is, none of these devices you mention above actually work as OU. Most of these are only used as ways to milk gullible investors. The OU field is overwhelmed with such bogus claims, including the latest ones. That's the tragedy and that stands in the way of the real progress and puts a bad name on the entire field. OU is a scientific issue, not an issue of engineering and marketing. There are certain ways of proving the reality of a scientific claim that have been established for centuries and these are legitimate and good, proper ways. Unfortunately, many of those interested in OU ignore them and the use of little terms such as 'open source' or 'COP' immediately gives away that they are not serious researchers but are after goals which lie outside of science. I've said it more than once and I'll repeat it now, there's no private money, no matter how much of it, which can compete with the money and infrastructure of Academia. Unless we (those interested in promoting OU as a legitimate area of study) find ways to make breakthrough into Academia and legitimize OU as mainstream, all these efforts we're applying are doomed. To do that, first we should be very clear what's legitimate, real OU and what are just games and finagling let alone sheer aggressive incompetence. I'm afraid overwhelmingly the OU claims fall in the latter category be it because, as I already said, of lack of competence or due to outright dishonesty (there's enough dishonesty in the mainstream, to add more to it from the outside). Then, once clear cut OU effects are established Academia has to be made to listen. How is this to be achieved is a very difficult question. Academia is more than reluctant to listen to OU claims. It is repulsive and abhorrent to those in Academia to even hear the mentioning of OU but that's because they are conditioned and systematically brainwashed to think so. I myself, being a classically educated scientist, thought so some years ago and used to brush off outright any mention of CoE violation and the like so I know the feeling. That has to change but it cannot change through behavior displayed by some well known claimants (who themselves are obviously unsure of their own claims or not qualified enough to defend them and that's the underlying reason to deny scrutiny; aside from bogus dreams of riches that will never come true).
@ Omnibus
Although I agree with you on a lot of points in your post the Rosemary Ainslie circuit is opened sourced and freely available to all to replicate and validate the device as OU or not OU...given that everyone uses the same equipment and parameters...I agree that there's tons of claims of OU devices and no academic involvement but Rosemary Ainslie seems to be at least making an effort to work with them and not asking for money in return for all the information she's given us already. I think we need a lot more people like her to make it provable first ( or not) before going to market.
Regards,
Paul
@Goat,
No, not at all. That's one of the instances causing much harm in Academia. It shouldn't even be mentioned. Of course, our forum is free for all kinds of ideas, bogus or not, but when it comes to approaching mainstream with that kind of stuff it should be strongly discouraged. Probably you read the other day the exchange I had with one of the moderators of one such mainstream forum -- the minute it's detected it has anything to do with OU you're lumped up with tons of these aggressively seeking attention amateurs. You might have seen, he overwhelmed me with links to discussions they have discontinued (for a good reason, at that) of such unsubstantiated claims. Also, I had an exchange with two of the professors in S.Africa who have supposedly observed and analyzed the claims and the outcome was less than discouraging. So one has to be really careful what one is getting into, especially in this controversial area -- for his own sake and for the sake of not putting a bad name to it.
@ Omnibus
Wow that's a relevation!
Perhaps this forum needs is a single thread to claim/disclaim all the proven from unproven OU claims, maybe that would cause enough a stir for every claim to openly provide enough information to replicate and prove or go away...seen too many claims over the years I'm really weary...I haven't seen a thread in this forum so far that says "This is it! Here's how to do it" but there's always hope that one of the ones that claims this is going to happen and soon.
Regards,
Paul
@Goat,
Honest efforts are also prone to mistakes and I'm not talking anout that. I think we're in agreement on that. We've seen, hiwever, throughout the years a lot of bogus claims and fraud, aggressively pushed. A lot of aggressive confusion too. This is what I mean. In the instance at hand we have another example of the latter.
Quote from: Goat on March 14, 2011, 01:24:19 AM
@ Omnibus
Wow that's a relevation!
Perhaps this forum needs is a single thread to claim/disclaim all the proven from unproven OU claims, maybe that would cause enough a stir for every claim to openly provide enough information to replicate and prove or go away...seen too many claims over the years I'm really weary...I haven't seen a thread in this forum so far that says "This is it! Here's how to do it" but there's always hope that one of the ones that claims this is going to happen and soon.
Regards,
Paul
Actually, there is a thread here where a person says "this is it". I really don't know how to read this person. He seems to be very negative against anyone who has claims or at least promising results, but when it comes to him, it's a different story. And talk about giving OU a bad name. You should see this guys demands in a science forum.
I am ALWAYS very dubious about anyone that claims an OU device and asks for money without showing any proof whatsoever. We have all seen this too many times and yes, it does give the energy research community a bad name.
Now, funding to continue research into a possible potential FE device? Sure. Why not. Just as long as all is disclosed up front and the investors can see it is just not another take of a previously discredited device.
I believe it is up to us here in this community to Police ourselves. I like the idea of a topic that examines all the the "real" OU devices being sold out there right now. However, I would not want to be the Moderator on that topic as I am sure it could go to flame wars in like a millisecond or even less.
Most of us that have been around here for a while knows what is real and what is not but, a lot of folks do not. We should think about how to possibly deal with this in a constructive manner. Nothing makes me madder than to see ad on the net for "devices" that have been dis-proven here, and elsewhere. This makes all of us look bad.
Bill
questioneverything,
Your not going to get anything from bigoil, military, or .gov. because they work very hard to stop FE...
They live at the top of the heap, and don't want you messin' with their status quo...
As for investors, well, they are into free energy, wind and solar are both big right now because they are practical, and proven, albeit with some caveats. But investors don't like investing in something that is too big a risk. If you can't show them a working device, and a way to make money with it, then that's that...
Mainstream Science? LOL! Academia lives inside an Adamantium box. They can't see out, can't get out, and oh yeah, got nice cushy jobs, don't wanna get out...
You wanna develop your device, whatever it is, then the first thing you are going to need is mad skills, son...
The biggest problem that I see with Garage Engineers is a lack of skills. I want to build this widget, but don't have a clue how to do it. The biggest cost associated with device development is labor. When you have to pay someone else to build your widget it will cost a fortune. If you have the skills to build your own stuff, then you are the labor, and you pay yourself. When you get into a project you can engage your DIY super powers, and slice all kinds of money out of a project by doing your own labor...
Forget trying to patent an idea. Sure it gets done all the time, but what happens when the idea isn't correct? Don't even think about a patent until you have a working device. Now we get to the second most important concept when it comes to device development, perseverance... In order to develop you device into a product its gonna take a lot of time, and work. You may have to make many revisions, perhaps even redesign everything, maybe even several times. Your gonna need heaps of patients, and perseverance. They don't call me Tenacious Z for nuthin'...
Now, take a look at how much money you think you need. Then think about how long it will take to develop the device. You need to be objective, and pragmatic here. That is hard to do going into a project, but after a few projects you will start to get a feel for it. Take the amount of money and divide it by amount of time, and look at the amortized dollars per unit of time. If you need to make it cheaper, then add more time and re-amortize. Work with this equation until you can make your device development project fit inside of the budget you already have. You will be surprised, I know I am, looking backwards at more than 15 years of experimenting.
Sure, not everything you try is going to work, but it is experience. Knowing what not to do, and what doesn't work is just as important as knowing what to do, and how to do it. Failure is an impostor. Failure teaches us what not to do, and what doesn't work. But the effort required even to fail is far more than the effort required to do nothing. This effort is what is required to turn theory into fact, especially in the area of energy.
I do like open source, information should be free, and not be able to be hoarded (black shelving). The internet is making this a reality. Once its on the interwebs its there for good, well, til the end of the internet anyway. No one should be able to sell information. Only products should be protected by a patents and not ideas...
So, just my two bits about how to develop a device without investors. Take it slow, think a lot, measure twice before cutting, make it pretty, and have fun, because when you look back, after your device is a success, you will savor the memories of how you used your mind to build the future...
Quote from: Feynman on March 12, 2011, 11:54:38 PM
C'mon man... Defense contractors like L******* and R******* et all have had these systems for 20+ years, probably more like 50 years. At this point , I'm sure their technology is highly evolved nth generation full life cycle units, in full production for black budget.
No personal offense here, but Why would they care about converting a dead alternator to a high torque high RPM 3phase motor? You are better off open-sourcing it if it's legit; no one makes money off free energy.
As bolt says, and I agree, the days of the 80s and 90s are over. No investor funds this stuff. You want to create it, you have to fund it off your own spare change or with assistance of family and friends. That's just the sad reality of the world we live in.
It's not about the motor, it IS open source, which you would have known if you had bothered to look at my blog post. Albert Einstein called you ignorant before you were even born.
"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."
It's about the generator design Nikola Tesla never documented. The motor was only a reference so people who have seen my posts will recognize it as me.
And it doesn't make you here look any better when you bash me in emails. It only gets the sender reported to the FTC, FCC, their email and internet providers under Megan's law as a cyber bully.
Quote from: z.monkey on March 14, 2011, 11:03:58 AM
questioneverything,
Your not going to get anything from bigoil, military, or .gov. because they work very hard to stop FE...
They live at the top of the heap, and don't want you messin' with their status quo...
As for investors, well, they are into free energy, wind and solar are both big right now because they are practical, and proven, albeit with some caveats. But investors don't like investing in something that is too big a risk. If you can't show them a working device, and a way to make money with it, then that's that...
Mainstream Science? LOL! Academia lives inside an Adamantium box. They can't see out, can't get out, and oh yeah, got nice cushy jobs, don't wanna get out...
You wanna develop your device, whatever it is, then the first thing you are going to need is mad skills, son...
The biggest problem that I see with Garage Engineers is a lack of skills. I want to build this widget, but don't have a clue how to do it. The biggest cost associated with device development is labor. When you have to pay someone else to build your widget it will cost a fortune. If you have the skills to build your own stuff, then you are the labor, and you pay yourself. When you get into a project you can engage your DIY super powers, and slice all kinds of money out of a project by doing your own labor...
Forget trying to patent an idea. Sure it gets done all the time, but what happens when the idea isn't correct? Don't even think about a patent until you have a working device. Now we get to the second most important concept when it comes to device development, perseverance... In order to develop you device into a product its gonna take a lot of time, and work. You may have to make many revisions, perhaps even redesign everything, maybe even several times. Your gonna need heaps of patients, and perseverance. They don't call me Tenacious Z for nuthin'...
Now, take a look at how much money you think you need. Then think about how long it will take to develop the device. You need to be objective, and pragmatic here. That is hard to do going into a project, but after a few projects you will start to get a feel for it. Take the amount of money and divide it by amount of time, and look at the amortized dollars per unit of time. If you need to make it cheaper, then add more time and re-amortize. Work with this equation until you can make your device development project fit inside of the budget you already have. You will be surprised, I know I am, looking backwards at more than 15 years of experimenting.
Sure, not everything you try is going to work, but it is experience. Knowing what not to do, and what doesn't work is just as important as knowing what to do, and how to do it. Failure is an impostor. Failure teaches us what not to do, and what doesn't work. But the effort required even to fail is far more than the effort required to do nothing. This effort is what is required to turn theory into fact, especially in the area of energy.
I do like open source, information should be free, and not be able to be hoarded (black shelving). The internet is making this a reality. Once its on the interwebs its there for good, well, til the end of the internet anyway. No one should be able to sell information. Only products should be protected by a patents and not ideas...
So, just my two bits about how to develop a device without investors. Take it slow, think a lot, measure twice before cutting, make it pretty, and have fun, because when you look back, after your device is a success, you will savor the memories of how you used your mind to build the future...
The gov has this tech and yes they want to keep it off the market. Which is why they will pay through the nose to hide it. They quit killing people a long time ago, and I'm already dying so theres nothing they can intimidate me with.
I tried to show them a working device, not OU, but a practical efficiency application. My motor design can also be used in reverse as a high output, high efficiency generator for standard and atmospheric windmills.
Skill is not a problem. I am a trained ASE mechanic with experience in metallurgy. I even smelt my own metals. It has nothing to do with skill on my part. I'm good enough to use straight up garbage to make working units.
According to USPO laws, anything claiming FE or OU can not be patented at all. I've been doing this for over 12 years. You think I haven't done my homework?
Money? It's not about the money. I built the motor/generator for less than $20, and can be built in less than a week. And this generator can be built for less than $150, in less than 2 weeks. The money is so I can resume Nikola Tesla's work. He never documented this generator, and I've already made vids of the coil tests, conventional and negative outputs.
I don't need money for this project, I need it for future projects FAR out of disability income budget.
Edison tried and failed nearly 1000 times to make the incandescent light bulb. When asked about it he said "I didn't fail, I found 1000 ways to NOT make a light bulb."
Quote from: Pirate88179 on March 14, 2011, 04:29:12 AM
I am ALWAYS very dubious about anyone that claims an OU device and asks for money without showing any proof whatsoever. We have all seen this too many times and yes, it does give the energy research community a bad name.
Now, funding to continue research into a possible potential FE device? Sure. Why not. Just as long as all is disclosed up front and the investors can see it is just not another take of a previously discredited device.
I believe it is up to us here in this community to Police ourselves. I like the idea of a topic that examines all the the "real" OU devices being sold out there right now. However, I would not want to be the Moderator on that topic as I am sure it could go to flame wars in like a millisecond or even less.
Most of us that have been around here for a while knows what is real and what is not but, a lot of folks do not. We should think about how to possibly deal with this in a constructive manner. Nothing makes me madder than to see ad on the net for "devices" that have been dis-proven here, and elsewhere. This makes all of us look bad.
Bill
I'm not asking for money for this project. This project is almost done and cost less than $150. It would be done by now but I had to move after my last landlord left me in the hall to die, and refused to tell me he lost the house and we were being evicted.
I need to find people who are interested in FUTURE work. But it does no good when no one comes to test it.
My device hasn't even been tested yet cause no one will come out. This was never documented by Nikola Tesla, and no one has tried a generator like this before. Assuming it's something thats already been busted without even knowing or seeing my device is ignorance.
Quote from: Goat on March 14, 2011, 01:24:19 AM
@ Omnibus
Wow that's a relevation!
Perhaps this forum needs is a single thread to claim/disclaim all the proven from unproven OU claims, maybe that would cause enough a stir for every claim to openly provide enough information to replicate and prove or go away...seen too many claims over the years I'm really weary...I haven't seen a thread in this forum so far that says "This is it! Here's how to do it" but there's always hope that one of the ones that claims this is going to happen and soon.
Regards,
Paul
So you expect people to just GIVE you information it takes years of hard work to come by? Thats just stupid!
There may not be much money in OU or FE, but there is money in the private sector if you develop and market it yourself.
So many uneducated assumptions only makes this site look even more closed minded. NO ONE is going to just post an OU design openly and your stupid for expecting it. Doing so without some sort of backing is BEGGING for trouble when they crash the server and attack the poster to keep it hidden.
Quote from: MrMag on March 13, 2011, 04:22:54 PM
Just because I disagree with your comment you call me a troll. Why would my comment make me incompetent? I think my comment is a little more realistic then your babble. Sticks and stones.
Sorry for this post Babygirl, but this guy who tries to come across as a scientist is always commenting that I am a troll. He's just an arrogant ass, I would ignore him.
No worries Mr Mag. There's ALWAYS going to be haters and bashers in the world. I just got used to reporting them to their internet and email providers as well as the FTC and FCC for violations of Megan's law.
Look at Jesus. He did nothing but teach, help and heal, and he was murdered for it! No good deed goes unpunished. What do you expect from people who respect the dead more than the living?
Quote from: questioneverything on March 14, 2011, 02:58:52 PM
According to USPO laws, anything claiming FE or OU can not be patented at all. I've been doing this for over 12 years. You think I haven't done my homework?
There are multitudinous patents for devices that harvest natural energy, like water mills, windmills, solar systems. You don't have to call it "Free Energy". Say harvest existing energy, just so yer not claiming to be making something from nothing. Ya wouldn't wanna go breaking the thermodynamics physics laws...
Quote from: questioneverything on March 14, 2011, 03:08:11 PM
So you expect people to just GIVE you information it takes years of hard work to come by? Thats just stupid!
All my research is open. When you give you are differentiating yourself from the others (greedy banksters and such) that can only take. Do you give to the world or take from it? Open Source means open source, that includes proprietary secrets, working diagrams, schematics, and whatever it takes to help others understand and use your technology, or even build their own copy...
The problem with our overspecialized world is the greed based on proprietary information. This brand products is protected by this-n-that patent, and only a specialized service technician can work on it of $300 per hour. In an open source world you could go to This brand products website, download the infos, and service the product yourself. There is a responsibility there too. You want to be an open source tech, well you need to be qualified to service everything that you might work on, so you gotta get training here and there, and elsewhere, to be able to work on anything. It distributes and decentralizes information so everyone can share in the misery of working on This brand products...
Quote from: z.monkey on March 14, 2011, 04:00:34 PM
There are multitudinous patents for devices that harvest natural energy, like water mills, windmills, solar systems. You don't have to call it "Free Energy". Say harvest existing energy, just so yer not claiming to be making something from nothing. Ya wouldn't wanna go breaking the thermodynamics physics laws...
Hmm...worth considering since word play is how they got the laws passed. The proper term is over unity.
Patent laws refuse "free energy" because nothing is free. If you so much as think about it you have put energy into the synapisis to create the thought pattern, and therefore is not free. Not even the thought of it is free, so how could the physical device be free? It costs money, time, and energy to build.
They refuse perpetual motion because NOTHING can run forever because bearings wear out, batteries break down and die, and mechanical failure is a fact of time and life.
Question everything
AHHhhhhhh...........
You see there, this man Z Monkey,He is what Open Source looks like!
A man that Stands apart from most,
If I may ask one question?How does your Gen differ from Newman's All copper Gennys?
Thanks
Chet
Quote from: z.monkey on March 14, 2011, 04:04:14 PM
All my research is open. When you give you are differentiating yourself from the others (greedy banksters and such) that can only take. Do you give to the world or take from it? Open Source means open source, that includes proprietary secrets, working diagrams, schematics, and whatever it takes to help others understand and use your technology, or even build their own copy...
The problem with our overspecialized world is the greed based on proprietary information. This brand products is protected by this-n-that patent, and only a specialized service technician can work on it of $300 per hour. In an open source world you could go to This brand products website, download the infos, and service the product yourself. There is a responsibility there too. You want to be an open source tech, well you need to be qualified to service everything that you might work on, so you gotta get training here and there, and elsewhere, to be able to work on anything. It distributes and decentralizes information so everyone can share in the misery of working on This brand products...
I'm not in it for the money, I'm in for the science and research. Science is my fun, but it doesn't pay for it's self. What you did not post is that "greedy banksters and such" are in it for PROFIT. Money has nothing to do with profit UNTIL it exceeds the amount required to sustain the work.
I almost gave my very life to this country! My C4 and C5 were broken in a 2 story fall when my safety equipment was sabotaged on a roofing job! I have a titanium neck now. Who the hell are you to question me?!?
You CONTINUE to group me with greedy corporate world, when you don't know me at all, so I once again refer you to the famous Einstein quote.
"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."
Now, get your head out of your ass and try doing something productive and beneficial rather than bashing people with absolutely no grounds.
And how is ANYONE who builds something not qualified to service it?!? The creator is the ONLY person who knows the best service methods and how to carry them out.
You are obviously not reading all the threads here. Keep your uneducated comments and bashing to yourself!!!
Quote from: questioneverything on March 14, 2011, 04:19:24 PMNot even the thought of it is free, so how could the physical device be free? It costs money, time, and energy to build.
Yeah, I can commiserate there. My "Free" energy thingy, was quite expensive to build, and it ain't done yet. That is why I use the word harvest. The energy exists, out there, and all we have to do is scoop it up. The USPTO doesn't get that. But, you see, they are a legal structure, and inventors don't usually speak legalese. That's why there are patent attorneys. I'm not pursuing legal anything. I sit in the common law structure. When I do a technology release it will be a common law declaration which makes what I build public knowledge. I am working on a way to block any patent which may try to black shelf a technology by declaring it public knowledge first. When a legal patent expires and doesn't get renewed the information is available as public knowledge. I want to find a way to declare it public knowledge first, to prevent any patent.
Quote from: ramset on March 14, 2011, 04:23:49 PM
Question everything
AHHhhhhhh...........
You see there, this man Z Monkey,He is what Open Source looks like!
A man that Stands apart from most,
If I may ask one question?How does your Gen differ from Newman's All copper Gennys?
Thanks
Chet
Thanks Chet...
Quote from: z.monkey on March 14, 2011, 04:39:45 PM
Yeah, I can commiserate there. My "Free" energy thingy, was quite expensive to build, and it ain't done yet. That is why I use the word harvest. The energy exists, out there, and all we have to do is scoop it up. The USPTO doesn't get that. But, you see, they are a legal structure, and inventors don't usually speak legalese. That's why there are patent attorneys. I'm not pursuing legal anything. I sit in the common law structure. When I do a technology release it will be a common law declaration which makes what I build public knowledge. I am working on a way to block any patent which may try to black shelf a technology by declaring it public knowledge first. When a legal patent expires and doesn't get renewed the information is available as public knowledge. I want to find a way to declare it public knowledge first, to prevent any patent.
Very aptly put too. It's refreshing to see someone who actually gets it!
The best way to present it to the public as open public knowledge is a mass demonstration or start selling them yourself. But without patent classification ANYONE, even a little 5 year old, can claim it as theirs.
To defeat that, you need to take ALL documentation, and mail it to yourself, including a working model, if possible, and never open it. The post office stamp will be your proof of date of conception, and no one can challenge a federal postage mark. Just make sure to wait a while before presenting it so there's a clear time window that can't be faked.
Quote from: questioneverything on March 14, 2011, 04:33:21 PMYou CONTINUE to group me with greedy corporate world, when you don't know me at all, so I once again refer you to the famous Einstein quote.
"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."
Now, get your head out of your ass and try doing something productive and beneficial rather than bashing people with absolutely no grounds.
And how is ANYONE who builds something not qualified to service it?!? The creator is the ONLY person who knows the best service methods and how to carry them out.
You are obviously not reading all the threads here. Keep your uneducated comments and bashing to yourself!!!
I am not grouping you with the banksters, and I do my homework. I'm just trying to tell you a bit of my own experience, in that legal patents are not worth pursuing. You'll wind up paying all you hard earned money to the legal system you hate. I am pursuing a common law alternative which is cheaper, more effective, and can guarantee that your technology doesn't get black shelved...
I thought you might benefit from my experience, but if you want to curse me I'll just go back over into the metal shop...
Quote from: z.monkey on March 14, 2011, 04:48:23 PM
I am not grouping you with the banksters, and I do my homework. I'm just trying to tell you a bit of my own experience, in that legal patents are not worth pursuing. You'll wind up paying all you hard earned money to the legal system you hate. I am pursuing a common law alternative which is cheaper, more effective, and can guarantee that your technology doesn't get black shelved...
I thought you might benefit from my experience, but if you want to curse me I'll just go back over into the metal shop...
I never said anything about trying for a patent. There worthless in a world where ANYONE can get 1 just by change a letter in the name of the device, and giving it a new coat of paint. Corporate espionage is not to be under estimated.
I'm just so sick of people directing statements toward me that have nothing to do with me. After being bashed here and in my private email, having my neck broken, and getting nothing for my services to mankind but a headache and being labeled a crackpot for telling people to stop being so lazy and go to the library, can you blame me?
I am a very defensive person. I ABHORE when people make statements about me like they know me when they don't know jack squat. And it's hard for me cause very few people understand how to use the english language effectively, and the messages get jumbled between proper intention and proper interpretation.
I apologize.
Quote from: questioneverything on March 14, 2011, 04:46:28 PM
To defeat that, you need to take ALL documentation, and mail it to yourself, including a working model, if possible, and never open it. The post office stamp will be your proof of date of conception, and no one can challenge a federal postage mark. Just make sure to wait a while before presenting it so there's a clear time window that can't be faked.
There is a better way, although it might not have a precedent yet. This forum is locked after a period of time. The entries are time and date stamped. The database is backed regularly. It is a public forum that can be accessed anywhere in the world. This is your documentation (legal proof) right here. If you do your research in a public forum, others can (and have) help(ed) with the development process, and that, by definition, makes it permanent public knowledge. Now, legal courts may not recognize this yet, and you will not be able to collect royalties from legal court judgments, but we're not doing this (research) for money anyway. This research is to improve the collective condition of humanity, and that means all of us. When you help others it is good karma for you. Personally I would rather have a lot of good karma, than a lot of money...
Edit: Stefan, do you have a position on electronic documentation in a locked forum for patent documentation purposes?
Quote from: z.monkey on March 14, 2011, 05:02:04 PM
There is a better way, although it might not have a precedent yet. This forum is locked after a period of time. The entries are time and date stamped. The database is backed regularly. It is a public forum that can be accessed anywhere in the world. This is your documentation (legal proof) right here. If you do your research in a public forum, others can (and have) help with the development process, and that, by definition, makes it permanent public knowledge. Now, legal courts may not recognize this yet, and you will not be able to collect royalties from court judgments, but were not doing this (research) for money anyway. This research is to improve the collective condition of humanity, and that means all of us. When you help others it is good karma for you. Personally I would rather have a lot of good karma, than a lot of money...
Edit: Stefan, do you have a position on electronic documentation in a locked forum for patent purposes?
Ahh...very intuitive! That never crossed my mind. Seems feasible IF you post the completed model design and documentation. If you only post research and findings anyone can use it to complete the design and claim it. It's not the research that needs as much protection, but the working, fully functional design that people want.
THAT'S what people will steal. They won't even look twice at you without results, and sometimes they won't even if you have results, like me.
My motor in no way claims over unity, but it is fully functional up to 12 HP and 15,000 rpms for less than $20 to build, and no one will test it. They keep making excuses like "you can buy those specs off the shelf" without considering I did it with only $20, and the motor is at least twice as powerful as ANYTHING the same size. Maybe 3-4 times as powerful. Need someone who's able to fully test it for true numbers.
I know this is a bit off topic, but I saw a banner ad here and thought I'd go ahead and bust it.
I'm going to do you all a favor, and give you the CURE for acid reflux. I'm living proof it works too.
Take a table spoon of apple cider vinegar every time you get heartburn until it's gone and doesn't come back. It's that simple.
What it does is basically reprograms your stomach and body to accept the proper amount and strength of acid.
Questioneverything
Thanks for the heartburn tip!
Is there anyway that you could imagine ,that we could build your genny here?
If you can find out what "Z" was saying about protection?
Seems like you have been at this for some time?
I have to ask this ,I'm not trying to be a smart A$$
If your Genny is OU can't you just Loop the power back
and run a Toaster or something?
No measurements would be necessary then!
Chet
Quote from: ramset on March 14, 2011, 07:42:20 PMwhat "Z" was saying about protection?
What I am saying is do your development in public, wide open, (Edit) this establishes ownership of a concept, or a process...
To make money, manufacture copies, perhaps even proprietary because of manufacturing, to whoever wants it. The theory, or even plans, are worth nothing, really. What matters is inventory, stuff you can sell. I have been in electronics design and manufacturing for more than 20 years. I can tell you, for sure, that no one wants to buy an idea... They want a new toy that they can go home in play with...
Ideas, patented or not, are just information. Its a very expensive process to turn an idea into a toy...
The money is in manufacturing...
Edit: See first line...
Quote from: ramset on March 14, 2011, 04:23:49 PM
Question everything
AHHhhhhhh...........
You see there, this man Z Monkey,He is what Open Source looks like!
A man that Stands apart from most,
If I may ask one question?How does your Gen differ from Newman's All copper Gennys?
Thanks
Chet
I don't know anything about Newman's system so I can't say. What I can say is that the iron in a conventional generator causes drag from attraction to the iron. Air core generators create drag from the repulsion of lenz's law. I found a way to balance these 2 opposing forces to almost cancel each other out for a free floating system. This is 1 of 3 principals used in the system.
It's the same principal used in audio systems, to throw and out of phase signal in correspondence to the unwanted noise to cancel it out.
Quote from: ramset on March 14, 2011, 07:42:20 PM
Questioneverything
Thanks for the heartburn tip!
Is there anyway that you could imagine ,that we could build your genny here?
If you can find out what "Z" was saying about protection?
Seems like you have been at this for some time?
I have to ask this ,I'm not trying to be a smart A$$
If your Genny is OU can't you just Loop the power back
and run a Toaster or something?
No measurements would be necessary then!
Chet
Thats what I plan to do, Chet! I'll have meters connected to input and output for voltage and amps, and connect the system to a massive load, such as an entire house with everything turned on, and the rest will be history! It's the most simple and straight forward way to test such a system. All the elaborate testing equipment is only good if your looking for 1-2 watts, but a system putting out 2.5 kwh will need nothing more for show than a serious load with modest input. Such a system will be self-explanatory with no "testing" needed.
Questioneverything,
Well you seem to be quite confident,as well as capable,
I hope you get it done!
But most of all I hope you share it with the world!To many have gone the other routes,And we all pay the price................
Chet
Quote from: questioneverything on March 14, 2011, 08:20:41 PMbut a system putting out 2.5 kwh will need nothing more for show than a serious load with modest input. Such a system will be self-explanatory with no "testing" needed.
Been trying to do this for a couple of decades... It'll sell itself...
Never been closer, yet so far away...
Quote from: z.monkey on March 14, 2011, 10:08:31 PM
Been trying to do this for a couple of decades... It'll sell itself...
Never been closer, yet so far away...
I'm almost done with the bench model and getting ready to start a more advanced model using another dead alternator (ASE trained master mechanic, notice a pattern yet?..lol) . Just got the shaft turned today. There's a middle school with a shop class like 10 min walk from me, but the teacher is so busy it's hard to catch him with a few mins to spare to help me. Once I have the armature bored out to fit the new shaft, it's just a matter or balancing and mounting everything.
The bench model is the exact same principals as the more advanced model, but the bench model is more open and in effect a "blown up" view for everyone to study. Once I have funding for future work, I will release the design for free. But until then I can't risk someone else getting MY funding using MY design. That's exactly why I'm not telling anyone too much about it.
I've also removed the internal protection from some lithium ion cells to be the first to test the effects of negative energy on them. As you can see wrapped in electric tape.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc303/babygirl8181980/S1030689.jpg
Quote from: questioneverything on March 14, 2011, 11:10:44 PM
I tried to upload a pic, but it keeps saying it's to big, so I shrink it and it says it's still too big.
If you resize your pictures they will upload with no problems. This is 640x480...
That is a lot of magnet wire. I see a custom stator. Coils look nice...
There was a cool picture here, but closed mindedness made me take it down...
Quote from: z.monkey on March 15, 2011, 05:02:38 AM
If you resize your pictures they will upload with no problems. This is 640x480...
I tried resizing, and even said so in my post. The uploader said max size was 2.6mb, so I resized to 2mb and tried again. That time it said that the max size was 500kb. It kept changing the max size to make it smaller and smaller and smaller, so I gave up and posted a link to my private photobucket instead.
And I don't appreciate a reposting of MY pic. It is MY pic and only I should be posting or reposting it. I did NOT give you permission. Did it even cross your mind I might have had second thought about direct posting? That posting publicly I loose rights to the image? Rights I'd rather keep which is why I gave up and posted a link instead.
But you didn't bother to ask did you?
Taking liberties with other peoples property is EXACT why I get so defensive about my work. I am now deleting the link and I DEMAND the picture be removed immediately!
Thank you for proving me right about human nature. This is what I get for thinking I could trust people here. I get stabbed in the back and my right to my own property removed.
And I don't care if you had good intentions, your actions had negative ramification on my rights. Just cause someone mentions using a forum as proof of concept and creation does NOT mean it's something I wanted to do or happen.
What is wrong with you people?!? Do you seriously not understand how far I am willing to go to protect my work?!? I have a carton of thermite I keep ready to destroy the device if I so much as smell deception!!!
Is it really so god dam hard to just ask first?!? If you had asked I more than likely would have said yes. But you had to take liberties with something thats NOT YOURS!!!!!!!
It took me 12 years to get this far on the design cause EVERYONE keeps fucking me over and I have to destroy what I had to be able to afford to move after being screwed over. And I'm not trying to place blame on others for my actions, I have PROOF other people are the problem.
I TRUST NO ONE!!!!!
Its just a picture...
Forgiveness is easier than permission...
If you post it on teh interwebs its public, anyone can grab it. Not a big deal. Its not like its a proprietary secret. Look, you need to get comfortable with this whole public exposure thing. Open source is, well, you know, like being naked in public. After a while you just get used to it. Ain't no thang...
I post everything, especially failures, because you can get excellent feedback, and that hastens the development process. Hastening the development process speeds up your learning curve, and helps you get a working process faster.
You quoted Einstein earlier. He also did something like this, blogging I mean. He published white papers. He was one of the only early scientists that would publish failures because he wanted to prevent others from making the mistakes that he had already encountered. Do you see? Einstein there acting in a selfless way, trying to prevent others from making the mistakes that he already made. That's Oneness... That's Unity... That's the Stuff that can fix this planet...
Quote from: z.monkey on March 15, 2011, 05:38:19 AM
Its just a picture...
Forgiveness is easier than permission...
If you post it on teh interwebs its public, anyone can grab it. Not a big deal. Its not like its a proprietary secret. Look, you need to get comfortable with this whole public exposure thing. Open source is, well, you know, like being naked in public. After a while you just get used to it. Ain't no thang...
I post everything, especially failures, because you can get excellent feedback, and that hastens the development process. Hastening the development process speeds up your learning curve, and helps you get a working process faster.
You quoted Einstein earlier. He also did something like this, blogging I mean. He published white papers. He was one of the only early scientists that would publish failures because he wanted to prevent others from making the mistakes that he had already encountered. Do you see? Einstein there acting in a selfless way, trying to prevent others from making the mistakes that he already made. That's Oneness... That's Unity... That's the Stuff that can fix this planet...
Oh really now?!? It would have taken a couple mins to IM me and ask and avoid this whole waste of time.
Just cause someone mentions open source does NOT mean I am ready to release it openly. I don't mind people knowing about the pic or seeing it, but you violated all rights I had to the pic when you took it from a private account and posted in a public context. It's not about the pic as much as people like you taking liberties WITHOUT PERMISSION when it takes far less effort to simply ask.
Get that Eragon quote out of your head. IT'S A DAM MOVIE!!! "It's better to ask forgiveness than permission" does NOT apply to the real world. Take a smokers cigarette without asking and see what happens.
I don't need feedback on the design because I've already built a small proof of concept model several years ago that worked perfectly, even if it only lasted 30 seconds before mechanical failure from an old bearing. I wouldn't be like I am if I didn't have a reason. I did NOT want to have to say that in public manner because it focus attention on me that I do NOT want. It makes me look like a moron to claim something no one has proven yet, even if it does work.
I don't mind going open source, but I will do it WHEN I'M DAM GOOD AND READY!!!!!
Quote from: questioneverything on March 15, 2011, 05:11:58 AM
What is wrong with you people?!? Do you seriously not understand how far I am willing to go to protect my work?!? I have a carton of thermite I keep ready to destroy the device if I so much as smell deception!!!
I put a couple of decades into my work so far. It doesn't help humanity if its a secret. It might as well be locked up in a vault at the bottom of a nuclear bunker if you can't share. I used to be like this, really. But I realized that the effort I was making is more beneficial than the end product. Plus I've built some cool stuff, and wanted to show it off...
Get naked (open source) dude...
Quote from: z.monkey on March 15, 2011, 06:03:26 AM
I put a couple of decades into my work so far. It doesn't help humanity if its a secret. It might as well be locked up in a vault at the bottom of a nuclear bunker if you can't share. I used to be like this, really. But I realized that the effort I was making is more beneficial than the end product. Plus I've built some cool stuff, and wanted to show it off...
Get naked dude...
How many time do I have to say it before you get it through your thick skull?!?
I will go open source when I'm dam good and ready!!! This means when I have protection on it. Just cause I give the design away does NOT mean I'm willing to give away rights to that design. This design is going to prove every member of my family wrong, and show I'm the only good thing that came from my family. It will get me the funding to resume Nikola Tesla's work.
I have MUCH bigger plans than your obviously puny mind can see. You want this 1 design open source, but doing so could cost mankind an entire welth of knowledge when I can't afford to further the research or take over where Tesla left off. Giving away the 1 design will destroy the big picture, which you can't see or you wouldn't have violated me!!!
Quote from: questioneverything on March 15, 2011, 06:05:33 AM
How many time do I have to say it before you get it through your thick skull?!?
Yes, Monkey Skull, very thick, armored in fact...
Quote from: z.monkey on March 15, 2011, 06:08:37 AM
Yes, Monkey Skull, very thick, armored in fact...
At least you admit it.
1 more violation against me, my work, or my property and you can rest assured NO ONE here will EVER see the finished model.
And by here I mean earth. I will keep it to myself and be a selfish little bitch, just like the rest of the world.
Open source does not require it to be immediate. Ubuntu 11.04 is open source, but their not releasing it till it's done and protected either.
You have 2 hours to remove the pic, or I will consider it another violation against me and YOU WILL COST EVERYONE DEARLY!!!
Take it as lightly as you wish, but I have no need to validate myself through others. I'd just as soon keep it to myself and let the rest of you fight over the price of oil.
Think I'm bluffing? I have 11 other projects that can get funding that have nothing to do with OU, and would be easier.
OKz, deleting pirated picture...
Sorry to be usurping your rights...
Wish U were open minded, and naked on teh interwebs...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9220.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2anE5camdaI
Quote from: z.monkey on March 15, 2011, 06:24:03 AM
OKz, deleting pirated picture...
Sorry to be usurping your rights...
Wish U were open minded, and naked on teh interwebs...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9220.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2anE5camdaI
I am very open to it, just not yet. Writers, programmers, and artists all never show their work until it's done. It will be open source...in time. Something as big as OU is not something I'm willing to give up rights to. I could care less about the design, it's the rights and credit I am after. Without them I can't get the funding needed to proceed with even greater work.
I'm sorry to be such an ass, but through my entire life I have learned 1 truth that applies to EVERYONE. "Give them an inch, and they'll take a mile." I'm not willing to give that inch...yet.
I was going to reword my other posts to make it so this never happened to the casual viewer, but I saw you called me closed minded just because I wish to preserve my rights to the design. The posts stay up. If it's closed minded to see the big picture when others can't, then I guess I am.
If I were against open source, why the hell would I post, FOR FREE, an alternator to motor conversion that can save people thousands, when other people sell it for $40 and more a pop?
I want YOU off this thread. You are a threat to everyones rights and credits. It's either you go, or I go, and my work is a LOT more important than you, and this is most certainly not the only OU place on the web.
SEE QE
The Z gets naked all the time around here!
;D
Chet
I'm not 100% sure, but I think for funding this forum is the wrong place. Many people here do not own a company or have enough money to invest.
Also I want to remind you that if you really want go open source after 'protecting' your rights no one will care about your rights anyway. The chinese, the americans, the russians, everyone in the world will replicate your device and don't care about your rights anymore since it's "open source anyways". Even if it was not open source but easy enough to replicate they would steal it. Other countries, other customs.
Regardless of what you choose you will not be a winner and I have myself resigned to the fact that if I ever discovered an exotic effect myself I couldn't gain any profit of it. The only positive side effect is the thought having participated in creating a better world with more freedom for the individual. Of course this feedback may be not enough to let inventors release their hard work. Unfortunately we can do nothing about it and so the invention will disappear again (as always).
Quote from: questioneverything on March 15, 2011, 06:33:49 AM
I want YOU off this thread. You are a threat to everyones rights and credits. It's either you go, or I go, and my work is a LOT more important than you, and this is most certainly not the only OU place on the web.
I'll just go back over to the metal shop, and shred some metal, naked...
Quote from: gauschor on March 15, 2011, 06:42:44 AM
I'm not 100% sure, but I think for funding this forum is the wrong place. Many people here do not own a company or have enough money to invest.
Also I want to remind you that if you really want go open source after 'protecting' your rights no one will care about your rights anyway. The chinese, the americans, the russians, everyone in the world will replicate your device and don't care about your rights anymore since it's "open source anyways". Even if it was not open source but easy enough to replicate they would steal it. Other countries, other customs.
Regardless of what you choose you will not be a winner and I have myself resigned to the fact that if I ever discovered an exotic effect myself I couldn't gain any profit of it. The only positive side effect is the thought having participated in creating a better world with more freedom for the individual. Of course this feedback may be not enough to let inventors release their hard work. Unfortunately we can do nothing about it and so the invention will disappear again (as always).
He he... LOL! Superlative, Brilliant! His eyes are open!
That is what its all about, right there, proliferate Free Energy...
Quote from: gauschor on March 15, 2011, 06:42:44 AM
I'm not 100% sure, but I think for funding this forum is the wrong place. Many people here do not own a company or have enough money to invest.
Also I want to remind you that if you really want go open source after 'protecting' your rights no one will care about your rights anyway. The chinese, the americans, the russians, everyone in the world will replicate your device and don't care about your rights anymore since it's "open source anyways". Even if it was not open source but easy enough to replicate they would steal it. Other countries, other customs.
Regardless of what you choose you will not be a winner and I have myself resigned to the fact that if I ever discovered an exotic effect myself I couldn't gain any profit of it. The only positive side effect is the thought having participated in creating a better world with more freedom for the individual. Of course this feedback may be not enough to let inventors release their hard work. Unfortunately we can do nothing about it and so the invention will disappear again (as always).
Once again the big picture has been ignore and overlooked. I'm not here for you or anyone else that posts, I'm here for the people who watch passively. Headhunters rarely join forums, they just watch until something catches their eye.
Of course people are going to rip off the design. It's the people who DON'T rip it off that will build the grounds for even bigger stuff.
This 1 design can make a better world, or would you rather wait and have another, and another, and another? 3 is bigger than 1, and does 3 times to good.
But I can't expect better when the world has programed people for instant gratification. No one has any patience anymore.
Quote from: z.monkey on March 15, 2011, 06:47:12 AM
He he... LOL! Superlative, Brilliant! His eyes are open!
That is what its all about, right there, proliferate Free Energy...
Someone has to create it before you can steal it, and interfering with that process only harms YOU. What if I do get funding, and patent protection? You steal it then you loose everything and wind up in prison for industrial espionage.
Quote from: questioneverything on March 15, 2011, 06:53:41 AM
Someone has to create it before you can steal it
I create my own stuff, and no one is going to steal it if it doesn't work...
I demand verification of functionality...
Quote from: z.monkey on March 15, 2011, 06:59:19 AM
I create my own stuff, and no one is going to steal it if it doesn't work...
I demand verification of functionality...
You can demand till your blue in the face, but I'm not releasing the design until it's done and protected. I do have videos of preliminary tests, but you'll never see them till I'm ready.
Quote from: questioneverything on March 15, 2011, 07:04:49 AM
You can demand till your blue in the face, and I'm not releasing the design until it's done and protected.
Doesn't work, been there, done that, gotz a T-Slot-Shirt...
Come on Man! This is research, lighten up...
Its not like its Mutha-Forkin' National Security or something...
Quote from: z.monkey on March 15, 2011, 07:08:07 AM
Doesn't work, been there, done that, gotz a T-Slot-Shirt...
Come on Man! This is research, lighten up...
Its not like its Mutha-Forkin' National Security or something...
You obviously didn't take me serious when I told you to leave this thread. So now you just cost everyone on this forum. Think what you want. Like I said, I don't need to verify myself through the opinions of others. You should be more nice and compliant to someone when you think they have a working model, not an immature jackass playing word games to pry the info out by telling the person it can't be done. Just like a 6 year old using peer pressure to get the other kid to do something he doesn't want to do, but is able.
Goodbye
Quote from: questioneverything on March 15, 2011, 07:13:43 AM
Goodbye
Bail out when proof is demanded? Where have I seen that before...
Quote from: z.monkey on March 15, 2011, 07:17:10 AM
Bail out when proof is demanded? Where have I seen that before...
BTW, I'm not a "dude", I'm not your "homeboy, and I am not a man.
Save your immature, childish peer pressure tactics for someone who cares. It's people like you who make the world a bad place. Your greed and self centered instant gratification are disgusting. Ever notice YOU are the only 1 unwilling to wait?
Do the world a favor, buy a gun, stick the barrel in your mouth, and pull the trigger.
NOW I'm gone.
Your considerations are not entirely thought through: if you really get any funding from an investor or company you will be paid for a while until the workings of the device are disclosed. After that the invention will disappear in a vault and not see daylight again, because with "free energy" many companies would cut their own profit. As you found out yourself everybody wants only the money and more and more of it. You can't protect your invention, not even with patents. If you are relying on headhunters I must assume that you are trying to get this device sold for a lot of money - which is okay in some sense - but afterwards this device will never go open source. Open Source and Protecting Rights will never go hand in hand.
Also I am confused since you are stating that the design is still not finished yet. I think that potential headhunters will wait until you demonstrate publicly something which looks really "dangerous" to them.
Quote from: questioneverything on March 15, 2011, 07:27:21 AM
NOW I'm gone.
You don't need to be this way...
We can collaborate. Look, I'm an electrical engineer. I'm not here to hurt you, just help you grow. Your animosity is a little off-putting, but I'm willing to overlook that. An open forum, an interwebz community, a little rock circling a yellow star. We are all one, and things go a lot smoother if we can collaborate. I can help you, you can help me, together we can make stuff betterz...
Those alternator thingys are a pretty tough nut to krack. Tesla himself designed the poly-phase alternator, and it is not easily understood. There is a lot of physics, and a lot of math involved in something you can buy at an auto-parts store. A significant portion of this forum is dedicated to Tesla and the many wonders he left for us. We can figure them out together...
A Girl!! :o
Z you better stop that walkin around Naked stuff!
I didn't know they let girls in here!
Chet
OK. I'll bite. I run a business, have access to VC types, and generally do whatever I want all day. I also have developed and released multiple products as open source, both software and hardware related. I doubt I will be seeing anything I have not seen already, based on all the buildup about Tesla... many of us are quite bright and have studied the maestros work as well.
Lets see your NDA.
As for demanding people leave the thread... you are smoking somehting funny there. Get over it. If you want private comms channels, you must set them up yourself. I personally run an email/mailing list server and an IRC server for these purposes. If you want to be taken seriously in looking for funds, you must appear much more mature to the "lurkers" you are looking to communicate with.
Quote from: ramset on March 15, 2011, 08:40:30 AM
A Girl!! :o
Z you better stop that walkin around Naked stuff!
I didn't know they let girls in here!
Chet
You expect me to cooperate with people who have tried to use everything from childish jeering, to sexism to get me to talk? You males are the ones who steal stuff, and are proven to be 17 times more likely to commit a violent act. YOU are whats wrong with the world. Without men there would be no war, overpopulation, famine, and suffering. MEN run congress and the ONLY reason there are any women in the system is because of the sexism laws.
Fuck every last 1 of you! You get NOTHING from me now! And I don't care if you believe me or not, you will when I post a link to youtube showing exactly what you cost EVERYONE here!
Quote from: questioneverything on March 15, 2011, 05:03:26 PM
You expect me to cooperate with people who have tried to use everything from childish jeering, to sexism to get me to talk? You males are the ones who steal stuff, and are proven to be 17 times more likely to commit a violent act. YOU are whats wrong with the world. Without men there would be no war, overpopulation, famine, and suffering. MEN run congress and the ONLY reason there are any women in the system is because of the sexism laws.
Fuck every last 1 of you! You get NOTHING from me now! And I don't care if you believe me or not, you will when I post a link to youtube showing exactly what you cost EVERYONE here!
regardless of what she may or may not have, she definitely has my vote for misandrist of the year... ::)
QE
I guess you don't remember me?I know that your a woman because we exchanged Emails [maybe 20 or 30] a few months ago?
[and I've kept my part]
I am sorry that you feel I'm a pig,we don't really know each other that well!
Sorry that I tried to bring a little levity to the thread,I was poking fun at Z for his comment!
Besides I really like /Respect women!
And I do believe you are sincere in your Quest for OU.
I'm just confused about the Open Source part,Its what we're supposed to be about here?
Chetkremens@gmail.com
Quote from: questioneverything on March 15, 2011, 05:03:26 PM
You expect me to cooperate with people who have tried to use everything from childish jeering, to sexism to get me to talk? You males are the ones who steal stuff, and are proven to be 17 times more likely to commit a violent act. YOU are whats wrong with the world. Without men there would be no war, overpopulation, famine, and suffering. MEN run congress and the ONLY reason there are any women in the system is because of the sexism laws.
Fuck every last 1 of you! You get NOTHING from me now! And I don't care if you believe me or not, you will when I post a link to youtube showing exactly what you cost EVERYONE here!
Nice.
Bill
Edited so as to not lower myself to the person's level that is being quoted.
Quote from: Pirate88179 on March 16, 2011, 12:35:46 AM
Nice.
Bill
Edited so as to not lower myself to the person's level that is being quoted.
I can imagine :)
One thing though. Women are half at fault for the overpopulation. I'm pretty sure of that.
Quote from: MrMag on March 16, 2011, 01:23:28 AM
I can imagine :)
One thing though. Women are half at fault for the overpopulation. I'm pretty sure of that.
Women don't R A P E! Most women aren't physically strong enough to force a guy off them when he doesn't pull out when he was told to. Women are 12 times less likely to cheat.
GET REAL!!! The ONLY reason I continue to post on this thread is the change of subject. Of course a worthless male is going to blame a woman. Males are not known for their ability to communicate, show emotions other than anger, or admit when their wrong.
It does take 2 to tango, but the males do 70% of it. And some women get so sick and tired of your crap they wind up killing their kids because they remind her of the male that helped make them, then kill themselves cause they can't live with the crap anymore.
It's YOU! MALES are the biggest reason, and evolution is phasing out males. The Y chromosome is shrinking and will eventually be unstable and disappear. Even mother nature sees males as the weaker, more expendable s e x ! The fact there's 7 females to every male says without doubt the X chromosome is stronger, meaning just because we don't have your muscle, we are STILL superior. When testing male and female ability to multi-task, the females ALWAYS wins because of 3 times the communication network between the hemispheres of the brain. Our very genetic and physical status PROVEN by medical science, shows females to be superior in every way other than muscle. IF war and destruction don't kill us all first. Tesla created haarp to modify the weather, but the 98% MALE military is using it as a weapon.
Hell, Jason, 1 of 4 people that live here, is a poor sport. He can't even play video games without getting really pissed of when he looses. He blames it on everything but his inferior skills. Everything but himself! He's a lazy, looser, leech that never worked a day in his life, is 22 and leeching off his mom, and sits in front of games every waking min. But has it in his mind it's not his fault and he can do what he wants. Until I shut him down the other night. I worked my entire life, I crunch data, I build custom computers, have an income, and rarely play video games, but he called me a hypocrite when I ragged on him for being such a lazy waste of space, even after I had just spent half an hour sawing through hardened steel till my arm hurt as he sat on ass playing...you guessed it, video games!
Grow up and get a life!!
Quote from: Pirate88179 on March 16, 2011, 12:35:46 AM
Nice.
Bill
Edited so as to not lower myself to the person's level that is being quoted.
Just like I thought. I KNEW males would turn this around to look like the females fault. You NEVER admit when your wrong, you just get mad and retaliate with illogical answers that anyone with a brain in their skull can see are wrong.
All of you need to come UP to my level, and start by admitting when your wrong! Everything I've said is supported and proven by statistics and crime reports, yet you STILL deny it.
You should apply for a government job. Their AWESOME liars and deniers.
Quote from: questioneverything on March 16, 2011, 01:55:15 AM
Grow up and get a life!!
Ditto that sweetheart. Have you been stood up too many times or is it that time of the month again. I have never run into a female that was so mean against the opposite sex, and you are calling US sexist, wow.
Growing up in life you will find that you will have to deal with many men in everyday life. Your going to have to deal with us like it or not.
Don't get me wrong. There are a lot of females a hell of a lot smarter then me in this field and I give them all respect. But the way you talk, I really hope I never have to deal with a person like you.(man or woman)
You just need to cool down and relax. We are not here to steal your hard work. We are here to help if we can. By the way, why did you come here anyways?
Quote from: MrMag on March 16, 2011, 02:06:50 AM
Ditto that sweetheart. Have you been stood up too many times or is it that time of the month again. I have never run into a female that was so mean against the opposite , and you are calling US sexist, wow.
Growing up in life you will find that you will have to deal with many men in everyday life. Your going to have to deal with us like it or not.
Don't get me wrong. There are a lot of females a hell of a lot smarter then me in this field and I give them all respect. But the way you talk, I really hope I never have to deal with a person like you.(man or woman)
You just need to cool down and relax. We are not here to steal your hard work. We are here to help if we can. By the way, why did you come here anyways?
Yes, I am making sexist, offensive comments, but yet again, turning around what YOU started to ignore the fact a MALE started this. AT LEAST I ADMIT IT!
Ramset made the first sexist comment, a MALE I might ad. Even if he was poking fun of Zmonkey, which I have the email from Ramset to prove. But your post is proof you can't admit when your wrong as a race!
This has nothing to do with menstruation as I've had my tubes tied. I refused to take the risk of giving birth to another MALE, and refuse to contribute to overpopulation. Once again your ignoring the fact a MALE started this entire thing.
I came here to help, but I don't expect any male to understand that cause the ONLY thing that happened was constant barrage from Zmonkey, a MALE.
I said it several times that I will go open source, WHEN IT'S READY, and was planning on giving away complete units for free cause it's so cheap and easy to build. But Zmonkey, a MALE, ruined it for everyone.
I am cool and relaxed, but leave it to a MALE to take the comments out of context. I'm in my friend Tyler's B-day party here, who BTW, has klinefelter's syndrome and was meant to be female, but the testosterone from the Y chromosome is killing him. And the doctors, MALES, are with holding a life saving operation causing him permanent physical damage. His MALE shrinks want him to come back for 2 years when his FEMALE shrink understands he has a major lawsuit for medical malpractice against...you guessed it, MALES!
I'm NOT saying females are perfect either. We're still human and do stupid stuff too. But MALE actions MORE than dwarf ours by at least 10 fold.
Quote from: questioneverything on March 16, 2011, 02:34:31 AM
Yes, I am making sexist comments, but yet again, turning around what YOU started to ignore the fact a MALE started this. Ramset made the first sexist comment, a MALE I might ad. But your post is proof you can't admit when your wrong!
This has nothing to do with menstruation as I've had my tubes tied. I refused to take the risk of giving birth to another MALE, and refuse to contribute to overpopulation. Once again ignoring the fact a MALE started this entire thing.
I came here to help, but I don't expect any male to understand that cause the ONLY thing that happened was constant barrage from Zmonkey, a MALE.
I said it several times that I will go open source, WHEN IT'S READY, and was planning on giving away complete units for free cause it's so cheap and easy to build. But Zmonkey, a MALE, ruined it for everyone.
I am cool and relaxed, but leave it to a MALE to take the comments out of context. I'm in my friend Tyler's B-day party here, who BTW, has klinefelter's syndrome and was meant to be female, but the testosterone from the Y chromosome is killing him. And the doctors, MALES, are with holding a life saving operation causing him permanent physical damage. His MALE shrinks want him to come back for 2 years when his FEMALE shrink understands he has a major lawsuit for medical malpractice against...you guessed it, MALES!
I'll agree with you that there are a lot of male assholes out there. But there are also a lot of female assholes too. If your friend knows what he wants, don't let anyone, male or female tell him any different. Keep going to doctors until he finds one that will do what he wants/needs. Don't forget that he has to deal with more men then women. He just needs to keep going until he finds the right PERSON. I wish him luck.
But we are not all assholes here. There are a lot of smart guys in this forum that do not mean to take advantage of you. We really don't care if you are a male or female. Don't forget, we would still think you were a guy if you didn't tell us. It's just that when we hear that you have a device like you say you have, we all get a little excited. A lot of us have been looking for something like this for a very long time. It's pretty hard to be patient. We all want to see it run and watch it work. I hope you reconsider. Just ignore the guys that bother you. There are a few here that bother me too. And if I said something that was wrong, I have no problem stating that I was wrong. It's happened many times :)
No hard feelings, just please don't put us all in the same boat.
- edit- And Happy Birthday Tyler
I just went back to reread the thread. I guess your email was a pretty good clue that you were female :)
Quote from: MrMag on March 16, 2011, 02:53:20 AM
I'll agree with you that there are a lot of male assholes out there. But there are also a lot of female assholes too. If your friend knows what he wants, don't let anyone, male or female tell him any different. Keep going to doctors until he finds one that will do what he wants/needs. Don't forget that he has to deal with more men then women. He just needs to keep going until he finds the right PERSON. I wish him luck.
But we are not all assholes here. There are a lot of smart guys in this forum that do not mean to take advantage of you. We really don't care if you are a male or female. Don't forget, we would still think you were a guy if you didn't tell us. It's just that when we hear that you have a device like you say you have, we all get a little excited. A lot of us have been looking for something like this for a very long time. It's pretty hard to be patient. We all want to see it run and watch it work. I hope you reconsider. Just ignore the guys that bother you. There are a few here that bother me too. And if I said something that was wrong, I have no problem stating that I was wrong. It's happened many times :)
No hard feelings, just please don't put us all in the same boat.
I know not all males are assholes like Zmonkey, but there's SOOOOO many all I ever see are assholes. The good males are the ones that wind up on my IM list and it's pretty good size. I'm not a friend millionaire, but I'm not alone either. 1 of my friends actually built an alter around a pic of me I forgot when I went to visit! I don't like it when I'm put THAT high, but he literally worships me!
I can understand being excited about something that could shatter the entire field, but actions like Zmonkey's are FAR beyond excitement. He needs professional mental help, but unfortunately a lot of mental hospitals are over populated and only take the absolute worst cases. And Zmonkey's schizophrenia doesn't fit that bill, so we all suffer for his inability to control himself. As you can see from my posts I have more control than the average person. I can snap over from the nicest person in the world, to a boarderline murderer in an instant, at will. But I only do it when it's called for, and the only way to defeat a monster is to become a worse monster.
Notice he hasn't been back for a while? Means my methods, as erratic as they seem, WORK! There's a method to my madness, but people never get to see it for that cause their to closed minded to accept the fact someone just bested them at their own game!
Not sure if bested is a real word, but spell checker didn't correct me so meh. It fits the context.
Even with all the good souls here, I can't risk the bad ones getting it so I have to cut of everyone and study those who contact me to determine who is...worthy(for lack of better word atm) and responsible enough to handle it with proper respect. Even as I write this I am studying YOU in another tab. If a bad, irresponsible person gets their hands on this, and abuses it, they could very well cause catastrophic disaster when they hit the fabric of space/time the wrong way.
It's the EXACT reason Tesla never documented this generator, and kept plans for the particle beam weapon broken into several pieces. It was designed for DEFENSE, but he KNEW it would be abused and used as a weapon.
If you see so many assholes, maybe you should of been a proctologist :)
A lot of those other post weren't from me. Someone hacked my account ::)
Quote from: MrMag on March 16, 2011, 03:21:04 AM
If you see so many assholes, maybe you should of been a proctologist :)
A lot of those other post weren't from me. Someone hacked my account ::)
Comments like THOSE set you apart from the rest. I can tell you jest. And jesting about a situation is a lighter way of admitting fault. I prefer direct but I guess this is the best I'll get right now.
I refuse to discuss the device openly anymore, but I have studied you and you seem to be along the same lines as me, just not as bold and in yer face about it as I get. Your welcome to email me here or my personal email from the first post in this thread. I will explain the major principal the system operates on, but I will not disclose my methods.
I have to keep SOMETHING to myself to retain my advantage! :P
@questioneverything
News flash: I do not care about your 'device' . Neither do most people here. who have their own successful areas of research -- particularly in open-source solid-state OU research, which is expanding rapidly. So please drop the narcissistic ego complex and the hysterical theatrics. You aren't the first person to have OU on this board, if you even have it at all.
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on March 15, 2011, 07:13:58 PM
regardless of what she may or may not have, she definitely has my vote for misandrist of the year... ::)
I agree, and I will vote on that too. Actually, I'm finding this to be more and more of a problem in modern culture. That is, misandry as being a consequence of mass political brainwashing -- notably ,the terminal outcome of feminism as it fuses with mass corporate culture and popular culture.
I believe feminism to be a very toxic ideology. Take a look at this vile piece of propaganda.
Male babies are future rapists -- from feminist council
http://standyourground.com/forums/index.php?topic=21054.0 (http://standyourground.com/forums/index.php?topic=21054.0)
What nonsense ---^ In fact, I find it revolting. Rape and other crimes such as murder, are -- the vast majority of the time -- related to psychopathy. That is, the complete (biological) inability to feel empathy. To blame these crimes on men as a whole is a sick idea, the product of a warped and neurotic mind.
Dividing men and women is just another divide and conquer strategy of the ruling elite.
QuoteWithout men there would be no war, overpopulation, famine, and suffering
-questioneverything
This is a vile, anti-human ideology. Without men , women , and families, there would be no civilization.
The problems on this planet are complex. Simple solutions such as the one you have proposed, questioneverything, are the lifeblood of psychopaths and totalitarians.
Perhaps you should review Hannah Arendt's (a women, I might add) , her 1958 book on fascist ideologies, The Origins of Totalitarianism.
http://www.amazon.com/Origins-Totalitarianism-Hannah-Arendt/dp/1849028966/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1300253466&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Origins-Totalitarianism-Hannah-Arendt/dp/1849028966/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1300253466&sr=8-1)
Let's please use the discourse here to uplift our species towards universal values of beauty and truth, both men and women alike.
Hi guys/gals.
Wow,I have read all posts in this topic,and well.It`s a time losing game.
He or She ( ? whatever this person is ) is here to just make a chit-chat like thing in this
useful forum and make others to lose their time with absurd comments !
Showing a picture of some coils does not say nothing at all,and having a way of communication
like he/she is reinventing the wheel is more than useless.
I suggest Stefan or Staff to close this thread and or delete it at all.
Here is a open-source community,and not a social network about debates
of genre male-female wars and so on.
Agreed, the poster of this thread is seeking attention and wasting people's time.
Quote from: Peculian on March 16, 2011, 01:31:03 PM
I suggest Stefan or Staff to close this thread and or delete it at all.
Make her the Leader of the Banned...
Look at her posts, she's been like this the whole time she's been here...
I would have locked this post if I could...
Quote from: z.monkey on March 16, 2011, 01:37:26 PM
Make her the Leader of the Banned...
Look at her posts, she's been like this the whole time she's been here...
I would have locked this post if I could...
Of course you would you waste of skin! Your whats wrong with this world! I already have several people in IM building this to bust your ass down to nothing more important than a fucking rock. Unlike you, they got the information by NOT being a complete and total whole ass. And they will attest that I only act like this when someone else starts it, like YOU.
I don't really give a flying fuck what you think. It's people like you that make us all look bad. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with having a little patience, but you can't seem to understand the concept of respect.
YOU and people like YOU think respect is a given right. HERE'S your news flash you infected scrotal scab. RESPECT IS EARNED!!!!!
And you along with your little communist "click" will NEVER have my respect. You really expect to get somewhere trying to use people like door mats?!?
Before you say "We're not communists", it is defined by wikipedia as "Communism is a social structure in which, theoretically, classes are abolished and property is commonly controlled, as well as a political philosophy and social movement that advocates and aims to create such a society." Which is EXACTLY what your trying to do to me. Make me release my information as commonly controlled and public as possible.
And is defined by Princeton as "communism - a form of socialism that abolishes private ownership."
YOU ARE COMMUNISTS BY DEFINITION!!! LOOK IT UP YOU PATHETIC WATER SACK!!!!!!
Most countries consider communism as treason.
It's also obvious no one moderates this forum or you and I both would have been banned LOOOONG ago.
(edit) My friend Jason was reading over my shoulder and called you a "fucking troll". His words, not mine.
I apologize...
I mistook your title "Seeking Funding" as seeking help...
I realized that you view me as a competitor for the OverUnity Prize.
I'm sorry again there in that I am not competing for the Overunity Prize.
So, again I'm apologize if I caused you to suffer undue angst.
God Speed in the OverUnity Competition...
Im not trying to get into this argument ;D So dont bite.
Iv also thought about the iron stator in an alternator, if the magnetic field is being thrust into the copper its also being thrust into the iron but the electrons in the iron have no where to go so it causes a cogging effect.
I did a little experimentation using a newman motor a very small model, using iron wire as well as copper, I got voltage from the iron wire as well as the copper with no cogging.
Best wishes on your endeavor
David
Quote from: z.monkey on March 17, 2011, 06:13:24 AM
I apologize...
I mistook your title "Seeking Funding" as seeking help...
I realized that you view me as a competitor for the OverUnity Prize.
I'm sorry again there in that I am not competing for the Overunity Prize.
So, again I'm apologize if I caused you to suffer undue angst.
God Speed in the OverUnity Competition...
It has nothing to do with some stupid prize. I'm not here to compete for anything. I was here to share untill you had to be a total ass and try to force it out of me. I ALWAYS give my information freely and openly, WHEN IT'S DONE AND READY! Until it's done I have no hard facts to base my claims on as proof to others. I have only proven it to myself, and need a complete unit to prove it to others to avoid bashing from people who don't understand the effects I am manipulating, or the way I try to explain it.
I'd rather let the finished device do all the talking.
But again, I don't expect you to understand that. You simply don't have the brain power to understand the concept of PATIENCE.
Quote from: Dave45 on March 17, 2011, 03:52:36 PM
Im not trying to get into this argument ;D So dont bite.
Iv also thought about the iron stator in an alternator, if the magnetic field is being thrust into the copper its also being thrust into the iron but the electrons in the iron have no where to go so it causes a cogging effect.
I did a little experimentation using a newman motor a very small model, using iron wire as well as copper, I got voltage from the iron wire as well as the copper with no cogging.
Best wishes on your endeavor
David
Could it be that pure materials and perfect systems ARE the problem? What if impure materials are the key? None of the materials are naturally present in pure form, so wouldn't a system based a nature require to be made of impure stuff?
These are questions I've asked myself for a long time. So many systems require multiple materials, it's only logical that the same reactions can be gained from materials "polluted" with the other materials, instead of using multiple pure materials.
Look at nature. There are rock and crystal formations proven to have an electrical output thats completely unexplainable. J. Hutchison uses these impure samples in his canister batteries, and even he doesn't have a clear understanding of how the minerals work.
It's possible copper wire doped with iron could be a single solution. But such a manufacturing process is very cost prohibitive.
QE
Well,
I don't know if Z monkey has offended you in some previous life?,But I must say,Your last post [concentrated nasty] was some of the most skillfull use of Nasty I have read in a long time!
I think you may have gone OU with your tongue on that one?
You remind me of another member here [well....... X member]
But Your skills are much greater!!
Such a Tapestry of Venom you can weave,Amazing!
anyhow I hope your half as good at OU research,we'll be in the groove in no time...........
Chet
Quote from: ramset on March 17, 2011, 07:15:39 PM
QE
Well,
I don't know if Z monkey has offended you in some previous life?,But I must say,Your last post [concentrated nasty] was some of the most skillfull use of Nasty I have read in a long time!
I think you may have gone OU with your tongue on that one?
You remind me of another member here [well....... X member]
But Your skills are much greater!!
Such a Tapestry of Venom you can weave,Amazing!
anyhow I hope your half as good at OU research,we'll be in the groove in no time...........
Chet
I can be your best friend, or your worst enemy. I could care less either way, but I prefer friends who don't start off with trying to force me to allow them to leech off of me.
Patience is a virtue.
QE
SSOOOoooooooo
Whats this about phasing out the Y chromosome?
Did you say we're [men] down to one in seven?
So we're down to one in seven,and Autism strikes one in ten male boys [on the spectrum].
Bad.. all Bad..............
So you should take pity on us,we're an endangered species !
And I think you should give Z monkey another chance,that was like a real bad first date,He got nervous.........
I think you misunderstood his true intentions?
Yeah Know Z monkey is really a nice guy,who has spent THOUSANDS of hours building and sharing here!
This is an Open Source site ,he got confused.................
I just don't like conflict amongst us,there is too much of it out there already,we are gonna need all the help we can get!!
And besides, when there are no more men left,you'll miss us!
{you'll be sad you weren't nicer to Z Monkey}
Chet
I hold no malice toward my alleged malefactor...
Being a student of Tesla, I recognize my contemporaries...
QE's design is very advanced, and there are kudos to be
given for her thorough study of Tesla Design...
zmonkey:
You do know that that particular photo was faked right? Telsa's image was superimposed into that shower of sparks. This might be one of the precursors to the now infamous "Photoshopping" we see today.
You may have already known this. In case you didn't, or don't believe me, let me know and I will find out from whichever one of my Tesla history books I read that in. It shows both photos prior to them being mixed together. Just a little historical trivia is all.
Bill
The picture is just a backdrop, er, uh, postcard setting...
Just to add an essence of Tesla, nuthin' to do with the subject...
Its an artistic thing....
Quote from: z.monkey on March 18, 2011, 09:07:45 PM
The picture is just a backdrop, er, uh, postcard setting...
Just to add an essence of Tesla, nuthin' to do with the subject...
Its an artistic thing....
Sure, I understand that. I have always loved that photo and was shocked (no pun intended) to read of its origins. Tesla worked not too far from where I grew up in NJ. Fascinating man. One of the greatest minds the world has known.
Bill
Artistic?
Sorta like......... "flowers"?
Chet
Quote from: ramset on March 18, 2011, 09:50:55 PM
Artistic?
Sorta like......... "flowers"?
Chet
LOL! Uulgh...
Edit: Tesla Coils are popular...
People who understand Tesla Polyphase Alternators are few and far between...
QE knows polyphase....
QE
Says she can see it in her mind before she tries it!
Saves alot of "out of pocket expense"!
A savant of sorts!
Chet
There used to be another person here that could do that. I think they went by IST.
Are the four pictures missing from your PhotoBucket account related to this project ?
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I tried the asking for funding thing, mainly to see how large I can scale up my water batteries as shown in this video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjUUYSgTEsY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjUUYSgTEsY) I even once started a fund raiser in hopes of making a much much larger version of many water batteries to see just how high a current and voltage I can get. Since even low current water batteries will increase in current and voltage when wired in series. And I thought since my small version supply power for decades already might be amazing if something could be made to power a home. I got one donation of 60 bucks, and I eventually closed down the donation site. Seems either people were not interested in seeing something larger that would produce more power as it surely would, again given all types of batteries, even water batteries increase in power when wired in series. Or no one just had the money to spare, you never really know. Its even possible no one really wanted something to come about as it could change a few belief systems perhaps, and where that leads who knows. I mean imagine powering a home on non toxic, non acidic, plain water batteries, and to be able to do it for several decades as well.
Quote from: questioneverything on March 16, 2011, 01:55:15 AM
Women don't R A P E! Most women aren't physically strong enough to force a guy off them when he doesn't pull out when he was told to. Women are 12 times less likely to cheat.
GET REAL!!! The ONLY reason I continue to post on this thread is the change of subject. Of course a worthless male is going to blame a woman. Males are not known for their ability to communicate, show emotions other than anger, or admit when their wrong.
It does take 2 to tango, but the males do 70% of it. And some women get so sick and tired of your crap they wind up killing their kids because they remind her of the male that helped make them, then kill themselves cause they can't live with the crap anymore.
It's YOU! MALES are the biggest reason, and evolution is phasing out males. The Y chromosome is shrinking and will eventually be unstable and disappear. Even mother nature sees males as the weaker, more expendable s e x ! The fact there's 7 females to every male says without doubt the X chromosome is stronger, meaning just because we don't have your muscle, we are STILL superior. When testing male and female ability to multi-task, the females ALWAYS wins because of 3 times the communication network between the hemispheres of the brain. Our very genetic and physical status PROVEN by medical science, shows females to be superior in every way other than muscle. IF war and destruction don't kill us all first. Tesla created haarp to modify the weather, but the 98% MALE military is using it as a weapon.
Hell, Jason, 1 of 4 people that live here, is a poor sport. He can't even play video games without getting really pissed of when he looses. He blames it on everything but his inferior skills. Everything but himself! He's a lazy, looser, leech that never worked a day in his life, is 22 and leeching off his mom, and sits in front of games every waking min. But has it in his mind it's not his fault and he can do what he wants. Until I shut him down the other night. I worked my entire life, I crunch data, I build custom computers, have an income, and rarely play video games, but he called me a hypocrite when I ragged on him for being such a lazy waste of space, even after I had just spent half an hour sawing through hardened steel till my arm hurt as he sat on ass playing...you guessed it, video games!
Grow up and get a life!!
Ha! Ha Well, what a load of crap! one of the old judiciary arguments barristers use to argue in court regarding was and I quote ' no way, a woman can run faster with her skirt up than a man with his trousers down'! I rest my case my lard!
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Quote from: stevensrd1 on February 16, 2019, 03:32:25 AM
I tried the asking for funding thing, mainly to see how large I can scale up my water batteries as shown in this video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjUUYSgTEsY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjUUYSgTEsY) I even once started a fund raiser in hopes of making a much much larger version of many water batteries to see just how high a current and voltage I can get. Since even low current water batteries will increase in current and voltage when wired in series. And I thought since my small version supply power for decades already might be amazing if something could be made to power a home. I got one donation of 60 bucks, and I eventually closed down the donation site. Seems either people were not interested in seeing something larger that would produce more power as it surely would, again given all types of batteries, even water batteries increase in power when wired in series. Or no one just had the money to spare, you never really know. Its even possible no one really wanted something to come about as it could change a few belief systems perhaps, and where that leads who knows. I mean imagine powering a home on non toxic, non acidic, plain water batteries, and to be able to do it for several decades as well.
You are a little bit late... maybe some 150 years... ::)
Batteries already have been invented, and most of them are better than your 'water battery' which is not 'overunity' and it's also not 'free energy' because you have to pay more for the metal than you would have to pay for the same amount of energy from the grid. Can it be scaled up to power a house ? Yes, of course... if you scale it up by a factor of 1 million maybe it would be big enough to power a house. But then you would need a second house for all the batteries. ::)
I don't see any use-case for this, except as a learning example for elementary school kids.
Quote from: skywatcher on February 16, 2019, 02:21:39 PM
... Can it be scaled up to power a house ? Yes, of course... if you scale it up by a factor of 1 million maybe it would be big enough to power a house. But then you would need a second house for all the batteries. ::)
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:) :) :)