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Title: Detailed Panacea Hidro report on the way
Post by: ashtweth_nihilisti on March 31, 2011, 08:44:30 PM
(Hidro)
Hidro FREE renewable energy (http://panacea-bocaf.org/hidrofreeenergysystem.htm)

Guys just a heads up, we were there and evaluated it ourselves , i went on camera for them, we had children with us in front of an over unity machine, a dream i have long sort after, this thing works and ill have full details ASAP, maybe do an interview with Sterling about the report. Wanted to first share some private photos here

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(device is painted black in the background)

The Future CLEAN future
Pictured with Inventor Jame Kwok with hidro in the background lighting up 1Kw FROM NATURE.
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Here is a link to one of our universities
(not the Panacea one)who evaluated Hidro and are now working with them
QUT (Queensland University Technology) cleantech news
CleanTech News (http://edm.sauceconnect.com/ch/33625/1726b/1391450/08f74jgpt.html)

But the worlds only open source free energy university also went there;)  , surprise these people are one of us and hate the NWO and are AWARE, 200 grand for 50Kw is the smallest they do, they have cost to cover, and i think that's not bad for now.

15 amps at 24 Volt went in, i was BLINDED by 1Kw of lights out. This thing could build up 20Kw with the fly wheel. I saw a cable that has a 600 kilo tolerance broken like a twig, this thing is POWERFUL.

Will have more details ASAP my friends.

Ash
Title: Re: Detailed Panacea Hidro report on the way
Post by: kampen on April 01, 2011, 05:41:34 AM

Looking forward to it.
Ash, thanks for all and keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Detailed Panacea Hidro report on the way
Post by: markdansie on April 01, 2011, 07:19:39 AM
Hi Ash.
so is this device open and avaialable for independent scrutiny? I am only an hour away and happy to bring a team of engineers to perform input and output tests.
I am always happy to be corrected.
PS Sterling ..if your reading this happy to do test for you no charge
Mark
Title: Re: Detailed Panacea Hidro report on the way
Post by: ashtweth_nihilisti on April 08, 2011, 12:19:30 AM
Hi ALL

Here is a presentation given to us by Hidro , its a sneak peak of the stuff coming from the report.
http://hotfile.com/dl/113709471/931d4b3/Hidro_solution_for_change.pdf.html

Thanks to Glen (fuzzy) the patents are up
http://panacea-bocaf.org/hidrofreeenergysystem.htm
(one more Hidro patent is on the way BTW, its not published yet) They have their own patented mechanical drive.THEIR OWN mechanical design is where a lot of the advantages are, i salute them for making it ALL work the way they did. There is more to this which will be revealed in our report (with in reason)

@Mark. Unfortunately at this time the device is not available to the public for various(AND obvious) reasons. They have independent tests already from the university (not Panacea) PLUS us, so there is pretty much all that is needed there which will be in our report, you could try contacting them, or contacting Queensland university they will tell you its real, its already published in the Queensland universities newsletter, they have been there and are now working with them, i know they are very tight on security, we actually know them personally.And they respect and trust us.

As you can imagine, they are very weary of who is there and have tight security.They know how this game is played. The proof is there now from enough parties, we have seen enough, to us the task is now a matter of a sponsorship program to make it work in a factory (we have a few in the works, more in our report) This thing works. There is no doubt about it. Which is why our local university (not the panacea university) is working with them to improve it. They spent a lot of money on this thing. What we saw was mark 3, the video from 2008 was mark 1.

The best validation is to DEPLOY it,to stop gas fracturing, nuclear power and oil drilling. This sponsorship program is what we will be involved with now.Plus showing it WITH the Panacea open source model to use Hidro for not only home/transport BUT ALSO for other self sufficient systems, to run Aquaponcs (organic food), local food co-ops, to even then trading with regional currency and much MORE. So Panacea will package the educational drive WITH those themes/etc

These SELF SUFFICIENT systems wont be packaged by any government or corporation, the dont want you to be self sufficient.
Panacea feels differently. Industrial Hemp for renewable industry, eco housing, etc, Aquaponics, raw whole food nutrition to prevent disease, cancer and be off pharma drugs, the alternative cancer cures, regional currency, is self education and self care , THIS is a fundamental security in life, it makes sense to create an OPEN SOURCE educational [Panacea] institute for this.

There is no other point in human histroy, other than TODAY that we we have as much of an educational crisis and as much corruption, most disease and ecology destroyed, these systems can only change that.

Self education and self care. Hidro can be a big part of that.
More in the report.

Ash
Title: Re: Detailed Panacea Hidro report on the way
Post by: ashtweth_nihilisti on April 17, 2011, 08:00:34 AM
http://pesn.com/2011/04/17/9501811_James_Kwoks_Hidro_Tech_Floating_to_the_Top/
Hi ALL
Special thanks to Sterling
Title: The theory behind the Hidro invented by James Kwok
Post by: ltseung888 on April 17, 2011, 01:32:43 PM
The theory behind the Hidro invented by James Kwok

Ashtweth brought my attention to the working invention by James Kwok called Hidro.  The brief description is as follows:

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Hidro is a new discovery which can advance education. The technology parallels that of a submarine, which uses buoyancy, gravity, gas density and hydrostatic pressure gradients to ascend and descend. Hidro does the same but drives a generator through this motion. All these factors produce CONSTANT motion and make it possible to harness energy freely from the environment.

Since Mr. James Kwok is also Chinese, I paid special attention to his invention.  The following are my findings:

1.   He uses energy from air.  The formulas used are:
Ein = Pin x Vin                            (1)
Eout = Pout x Vout                      (2)
Ein = Energy of Air brought into the system
Pin = Pressure of Air at Input
Vin = Volume of Air at Input
Eout = Energy of Air flowing out at Output
Pout = Pressure of Air at Output
Vout = Volume of Air at Output

2.   Ein can be much greater than Eout.  That explains where the energy comes from.  Energy from Still Air is brought-in from the environment.  So long as there is air flowing in and out of the system, the system must be an OPEN system.  Energy will be flowing in and out with the flowing air.  Thus we cannot blindly apply the Law of Conservation of Energy.

3.   The supplied energy is from the compressed air at the bottom of the tower.  Work is done to expel some of the water from the submarine type container.  So long as the compressed air pressure is slightly above the pressure of the water column at that level, the water will be displaced.  We can call this as Esupplied.

4.   Most people made the mistake of assuming that Esupplied = Ein.  They did not see the fact that air actually flows into the system and flows out from the system.  Air itself is not a fuel but an energy carrier.  Ein can be considered as the bring-in energy.  It can be much greater than Eout.  The difference can be used to do work (in addition to Esupplied).

5.   Pin can be the minimum pressure of air at that water level.  In the submarine type structure, that pressure can be much, much higher. The principle is similar to the water rocket.  When a valve is opened, the compressed air will force the water out, generating a large thrust.  The submarine container goes up both from the floatation and the thrust.

6.   At the top of the water tower, all the air is allowed to escape.   Water enters the container.  The density will be greater than 1 and the submarine container will help the downward motion. 

7.   The Ein term can be engineered to be much greater than the Eout term.  That is the magic behind the Kwok Hidro.  Energy is constantly brought-in from air.  The air escaping out from the top and on the way up will have much lower pressure and a little bit higher volume.  The product will be less than that at the bottom.  The extraction of energy from air can be verified by a colder air temperature at the top.

8.   The theory is now explained.  There is no violating of the Law of Conservation Energy.  Air carries its energy in and out of the Hidro device.  That energy from Still Air is used.  That energy is virtually inexhaustible on the surface of the earth.  Thus the Hidro can self-run and generate extra electrical energy from the bring-in energy of air.

9.   Mr. James Kwok is brilliant in producing the mechanical and control mechanisms to turn the theory into a workable system.  I salute him on his excellent achievement.  With the bring-in energy theory behind, his invention will pass all academic scrutiny.

10.   Theoretically, it is not the best in terms of footprint, cost of construction and ease of transport.  But if it is the first to be deployed in the Market, it will have its place in History.  The steam engine is not the most efficient or the best, but it earned its place in history.

God sends HIS angels.  I am glad that this angel is Chinese.  That will inspire many more Chinese Inventors. The Dragon from the East will rise.  Is that a verse from the Bible?  Amen  
Title: Re: Detailed Panacea Hidro report on the way
Post by: ashtweth_nihilisti on August 08, 2012, 08:39:08 PM
Hi All looks like Hidro's company is online
http://www.centiumelectric.com/
check this PDF for new challenges they have
http://www.centiumelectric.com/prospectus_and_supplementary_centium2.pdf