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Title: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: Doctor No on April 01, 2011, 10:12:56 AM
What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima, to stop radiation flow over Northern Hemisphere?
Soon, this question wil be more and more important to everybody.
In 2 or 4 weeks there wil be no possibility to stop radiation flow from the new Hiro-Fuku-Shima, in any which way.
The only way to avoid an ecological catastrophe for Northern Hemisphere will be to drop big conventional 25 MT bomb on this place.
This can do but only 2 superpowers.
The second is, to make it with 1 MT antimatter, fuly ecological nuclear weapon, to assure destruction of all radioactive parts in reactors (to annihilate them totaly).
This action could take place in 2 months after ultimatum send to: Kaiser of Nippon, Presidents of 2 superpowers, OUN.
When it will be done nothing to avoid nightmare, how You vote?

Dr Adolf Nowak

National Socialists Polish
Workers Party
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: bourne on April 01, 2011, 12:28:30 PM
Am I reading this correctly?

The solution to fixing the problem of some broken nuclear reactors....is to explode nuclear weapons near/on/in the reactors.

Here are some quotes from the man who brought us to this problem

QuoteThe difference between stupidity and genius is that
genius has its limits.

Albert Einstein

QuoteIt has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity.

Albert Einstein

QuoteIf I'd known what I was unleashing, I'd have become a watchmaker.

Albert Einstein

QuoteThe unleashed power of the atom has changed everything
save our modes of thinking and we thus drift
toward unparalleled catastrophe.

Albert Einstein

This is the clincher for me

QuoteThe world we have made, as a result of the level of thinking we have done thus far, creates problems we cannot solve at the same level of thinking at which we created them.

Lets all hope a solution can be found to this problem.
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: WilbyInebriated on April 01, 2011, 12:53:30 PM
this should be REQUIRED reading material in EVERY elementary school...

the russell-einstein manifesto
http://www.pugwash.org/about/manifesto.htm

the salient point being "Remember your humanity, and forget the rest. If you can do so, the way lies open to a new Paradise; if you cannot, there lies before you the risk of universal death."
i think it will fall on deaf ears for dr.strangeno, and to most of the rest i am probably 'preaching to the choir'.
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: bourne on April 01, 2011, 01:52:58 PM
One thing to keep in mind is the fact that Einstein was in favour of a global government. More, I think, to control the threat of nuclear war rather than the bankster run totalitarian nightmare we see charging towards us now.

From paragraph 11 russell-einstein manifesto
QuoteThe abolition of war will demand distasteful limitations of national sovereignty.

Anyhow, if this all gets a bit too much. Spring being well on the way, it might be time to go outside and shoot a few hoops...
While you still can!

Watch this         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ0bPt0fQV4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ0bPt0fQV4)
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: WilbyInebriated on April 01, 2011, 02:04:32 PM
Quote from: bourne on April 01, 2011, 01:52:58 PM
One thing to keep in mind is the fact that Einstein was in favour of a global government. More, I think, to control the threat of nuclear war rather than the bankster run totalitarian nightmare we see charging towards us now.

From paragraph 11 russell-einstein manifesto

Anyhow, if this all gets a bit too much. Spring being well on the way, it might be time to go outside and shoot a few hoops...
While you still can!

Watch this         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ0bPt0fQV4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ0bPt0fQV4)

:) and pretty soon one will need a 'license' to smile...
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: bourne on April 01, 2011, 02:19:47 PM
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on April 01, 2011, 02:04:32 PM
:) and pretty soon one will need a 'license' to smile...

That's not funny!

Going back to the topic ....

What is, and who has 'anti-matter nuclear weapons'? Are they real and ready to go?
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: bourne on April 01, 2011, 03:53:07 PM
I can now answer my own question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter_weapon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter_weapon)

So..essentially they are a made up theoretical idea.

So..it will have to be conventional nuclear weapons to extinguish the plutonium fires. Am I right in thinking there are 6 reactors at the fukishima site? Should be quite a firework show.

I want a front row seat, pointless trying to out run the aftermath if it goes wrong.
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: mscoffman on April 03, 2011, 04:28:46 PM
Just wanted to remind that this Fukishima reactor
accident is nearly the worst case reactor accident
associated with an naturally induced disaster. This
is because control rods were asserted into cores. This
guarantees moderator material will be present and
co-melt with the fuel rods, meaning chain-fission will
be shut down and never add new energy. This is
assuming they know what is in their fuel rods and they
are not hyped-up with some unknown material somehow.
The real problem is in the swimming pool storage areas
where there may be an insufficiency of moderator material
if the rods are hot and begin to melt. Those storage pools
should be rated and not have long term storage co-located
near a reactor.

If they could convert the reactor from boiling water to
molten metal right at the time the rods in the core
begin to overheat they could temporarily park a reactor
indefinitely at above design operating temperature with
natural convection cooling until cooling water could be
restored and *that* would have eliminated any radiation
release.

Of course if the reaction goes exponential with the control
rods pulled out due to operations stupidity...I all I can do
is recommend that folks stand back.

So what should be done is what they have done...
Put the physical plant back together to restore fuel
rod geometry. I don't recommend burying or nuking it...
it will do that itself if warranted.

:S:MarkSCoffman
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: Doctor No on April 03, 2011, 05:58:36 PM
I think that not all control rods gone down into core, cos of technical problems after tsunami wave. So reaction can not be blocked, it goes on but slowly, slowly, till it erupts. When it was not so, they should for long abandon the place. So said academician Victor Mihaylov from Sarov-Center of nuclear technology in Russia (former over top secret place in SU). But when they don^t, and fill it with water, what V.M. described as stupidity cos of production of pure hydrogen, it means, they are afraid of sthg. This is for sure that reaction goes on with no other possibility to stop as only water spraying. When it is so, radiation goes always up. In 2 weeks they will be pressed to abandon all  works and.....
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: Bob Smith on April 03, 2011, 09:26:09 PM
I believe the most important thing now may be to get as much boron in there as possible to kill any further nuclear reaction going on.

I've mentioned this before but FWIW, the Searle Effect Generator's reputed ability to neutralize nuclear radiation may be something worth considering.
That said, there are globalized forces which would probably like to destroy Japan. With the collapse of volcanic tubes due to ongoing earthquakes, there is a danger of the island's bedrock collapsing and slipping into the sea over an extended period of time.

Lastly, there was a giant coronal mass ejection early this morning (Apr 3). Once its effects reache us )2-3 days), who knows what it'll produce in terms of increased seismic activity in the area, not to mention others such as Yellowstone, Baja penninsula...  See:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyFbJWnX2Bk
B
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: Doctor No on April 04, 2011, 06:14:55 AM
I think that You are completely right. In time oil peak, when all energetic values are more precious as gold, it was needed to get rid of one of its consumers. The better candidate was China, but it is easier to organize among own mob. Had You forgotten 9.11? ::)
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: forest on April 04, 2011, 07:57:52 AM
I have stupid idea.

I have been learned that all chemical reactions are reversible, why decay reaction cannot be reversed ?  ???
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: Doctor No on April 04, 2011, 03:23:29 PM
For good question, You have answer. Yes, really, it can. But You need a big tachyons cannon. Or engine. Tachyons (free gratitons) timing particles really are. So with proper use of them, you can change speed of each processs. Such as we do for cure. But for cleaning such big atomic shit, big device is needed. When Amis really wanted to do sthg good, they could fly over this Nippon-mother-fuckers-shit with one of his big "Ufo" vechicles. But i know them.  They don^t do it for sure. So we drop a bomb. It is cheaper.  :P
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: mscoffman on April 04, 2011, 03:29:47 PM
Quote from: forest on April 04, 2011, 07:57:52 AM
I have stupid idea.

I have been learned that all chemical reactions are reversible, why decay reaction cannot be reversed ?  ???

@forest,

Generally speaking they are and you are correct.
All, but CP parity violating operations that I know
little about. But it's a little like thermodynamics all
going one direction. You can't necessarily get all the
reactants together in one spot at exactly the correct
times - so you are stuck with those fusion operations
that are physically feasible to perform.

:S:MarkSCoffman
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: Doctor No on April 04, 2011, 03:51:42 PM
I assure You once more my Friend, that dropping 1 MT clean antimatter bomb, with no side, long term, effects is the best way against atomic shit. I^ve first proposed it 40y. ago already and was astounded why Soviets had not done it in Tschernobyl. Simply they did^t knew the technology for it in this time, as Amis already had, and nobody said. Even today. The world is very strange, trust me. >:(
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: Doctor No on April 08, 2011, 05:37:40 AM
I have to say, before weekend, that this shot over Fukushit, will give people much of free energy. I mean Spirit. This will be very hot Autumn this year. Trust me folks. Don^t You?  ::)
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: hartiberlin on April 08, 2011, 02:45:29 PM
To drop a normal TNT bomb on Fukushima is
total nonsense.

This would actually destroy all the Plutonium
rods to ashes and through this explosion distribute this
horrific radioactive material into the atmosphere,
so that it would propagate much faster into the surroundings and
into the upper atmosphere.

A second explosion needs to be badly avoided !

The problem is, that if there has been
this core melting already and the hot glowing radioactive
core is progressing and flowing into ground,
that it will explode , once it will hit groundwater.
Then it will immediately split the water into HHO
gas and this will ignite into a detonation and
will also put all the radioactive material into the
upper atmosphere...
which will then be again transmitted with the winds
also to other countries...  :'(

So the only thing they could do is try to suck up the molten core into some
new ceramic vessel standing these molten temperatures or
just try to use cement to seal it.
But if the molten core comes under the cement into contact with ground
water it could even lead to a bigger explosion also destroying all
the cement block above it.

Trying to spray it all with water is also very stupid, cause
all it will do is cool down the shells by vapourizing the
water and taking the radioactivity together with the water steam into the air
and polluting the surroundings...

So IMHO the best thing but most dangerous thing would be to try to suck
up the molten core into a new ceramic vessel and then try to
cool it down with Bor or something like this, what slows down the
nuclear reactions and when it has cooled down and gets
hard again, try to store it away deep inside a safe place under
earth,where it can´t reach groundwater.


Regards, Stefan.

Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: forest on April 08, 2011, 03:02:04 PM
send it to the Moon by electromagnetic gun
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: hartiberlin on April 08, 2011, 06:58:21 PM
There clearly is misinformation and suppression regarding the ongoing radiation dangers from Fukushima.

This is happening, almost unbelieveably during the exact same time as Congress debates funding
for a whole new series of fission nuclear reactors to be built across the US .

Closing Ranks: The NRC, the Nuclear Industry, and TEPCO are Limiting the Flow of Information

http://www.fairewinds.com/updates
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on April 09, 2011, 06:01:50 AM
All just so depressing.  It beggars the mind.  How's this for a slap in the face of good sense.  In all of South Africa there's only one discernable fault line which runs through Koeberg - near us here in the Cape.  So.  Guess where they've put the nuclear power station and where they're now planning another 3 of these monsters?  Koeberg - one K from that fault line. 

What? in God's name, do these people use when they plan anything at all.  Certainly NOT their brains - and in all probability their pocket books.  I know WHY they're building here.  It's because the first one is already there.  They'll argue it on the basis of precedent.  God Help Us all.

I think the time is now LONG OVERDUE to put an entire BAN on nuclear power for grid supplies - and let's force our ACADEMICS to check out alternate energy - even Over Unity Claims.  Just a little bit of curiosity and a lot less arrogance - and there'd be a guaranteed BREAKTHROUGH.  My own take is that it just needs a little bit of good will.  That alone would take us really, really far.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: Pirate88179 on April 10, 2011, 05:18:54 AM
Nuclear power is not the enemy, no more than guns or bombs are.  It is how they are used that needs to be called into question in my opinion.  Why they did not have back up generators (which they did) to operate the cooling pumps after being flooded by the waves is beyond me.  It could happen so they should have planned for that.  It did happen.  My hopes and prayers are with the Japanese people in this dire time.  No one deserves this.

Bill
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on April 12, 2011, 03:09:31 PM
Quote from: Pirate88179 on April 10, 2011, 05:18:54 AM
Nuclear power is not the enemy, no more than guns or bombs are.  It is how they are used that needs to be called into question in my opinion. ...
Excellent!  A reasonable statement on this thread.  I fully agree.  Nuclear generators are just atomic heaters that boil water or another medium to generate electricity.  An atom bomb releases all it's energy in a few millionths of a second, and all that sudden energy kills people, which damages the environment.
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... Why they did not have back up generators (which they did) to operate the cooling pumps after being flooded by the waves is beyond me. ...
They did have backup generators (I'm told on the news---in basements!?!?) that were flooded by the tsunami.  I would have put the AC generators on higher ground, on a hill, away from the seaside cliffs.  Then run power line mains to the plant on sturdy support mounts.  The Japanese engineers didn't think of that, though.
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It could happen so they should have planned for that.  It did happen.
Money might have been a reason.  If they took more precautions, the cost would have gone to the Moon on a figurative "Saturn V" launch rocket.  Way, WAY! too expensive.
Also, they didn't expect a 9.0 earthquake to hit the area, followed by a 15m tsunami.  Not both at once on the same day.
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My hopes and prayers are with the Japanese people in this dire time.  No one deserves this.
Every Friday, I myself say a particular healing prayer for Japan in my synagogue.  I'm with you on this.  Nobody deserves something as deadly as radiation.
Good going, Bill.

--Lee
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: neptune on April 12, 2011, 04:05:24 PM
As I see it ,  the only difference between a nuclear bomb and a nuclear power station is the length and predictability of the fuse . Nuclear accidents are assessed on a scale of one to seven . That in itself is illogical , but it gets worse . A scale 2 is ten times as serious as a scale 1 . A scale 3 is ten times as serious as a scale 2  , and so on . This is totally illogical and can only have been created with one purpose in mind , to deceive . The Fukushima accident has recently been uprated from scale 5 to 7 . That presumably means that it is 100 times as bad as first admitted .Of course I have sympathy for the victims .
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: raburgeson on April 20, 2011, 11:56:46 AM
They forgot to finish the statement. "Nuclear power is the path of the future" should be ended with "world extinction".
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: Doctor No on May 17, 2011, 02:29:30 PM
Vote for, this is Your last chance to change the World!    And don^t forget, even when You all will be against it, i will do what i want to do:-]
Title: Re: What You think about use of new, ecological nuclear power against Fukushima,
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on September 06, 2011, 11:29:11 PM
Quote from: forest on April 04, 2011, 07:57:52 AM
I have stupid idea.

I have been learned that all chemical reactions are reversible, why decay reaction cannot be reversed ?  ???
Ever hear of nuclear fusion? 
I read years ago, if enough speed as kinetic energy is imparted to any ion in an accelerator, it can fuse to any other atom.  Never heard of it being done with any two substances, though.

--Lee