That begin to be ridiculous nagivate on this site, sorry but it true
stop the stupid robot to add ADS on each thread, most of the time they are no post, we go thinking they are a reply and we waste our time because of ADS
and add a mininum of 10 reply per PAGE not 2 or 3!
If you want make money with the google ads, its not the good way to polute us with ADS, go work!
I own a mod for hl2, i invest time and money on it, on our forum i dont polute with ADS like here, its really getting ridiculus now
please do somethign about it!
HartiBerlin has to pay for this domain somehow.
The traffic is enormous so he has to pay a lot.
If you don't want adds I suggest you pay HartiBerlin for this domain ;D
The adds do not bother me, whats the big deal. If the adds will help pay for this thing, then go for it.
JackH
well i don't really like it myself but hey if it keeps this forum going so be it. plus i use ZoneAlarm Internet
Security Suite, it takes away all the ads ;D
"add a mininum of 10 reply per PAGE not 2 or 3!" i do agree with you on that. :-\ but i guess he is worried for those on very very slow internet connection. maybe we can individually adjust this somehow in settings, im not sure.
peace
its take more internet bandwith if you need to load 5 page to read 10 replies, instead of one pages!
i guess
If you would click at least once in your visit here the ebay offers,
I could do this, but with 10.000 servered ads only 15 clicks is a bit low...
I have to finance the hosting somehow...
and the ebay offers are very interesting, cause they relate directly to
new alternative energy...so please klick at least once a day onto it,
when you are here.
The ads don't really bother me either. I probably won't click on them though, because the ones I have noticed are non-english and I don't know what they are even if I click on them.
I could just click on them, but it seems unethical to do this because it causes someone to have to pay for the click, and I have no intention (or ability) to read their ad anyway.
Quote from: Tink on May 26, 2006, 11:01:36 PM
HartiBerlin has to pay for this domain somehow.
The traffic is enormous so he has to pay a lot.
If you don't want adds I suggest you pay HartiBerlin for this domain ;D
The old YahooGroup did not have the problem. The number of clicks
needed is ridiculous, broadband or not. This board is hopelessly
fragmented
Okay, guys,
I have changed it now back to 5 postings per page,
so you don?t have to click so much...
I hope you will still at least click once a day onto this
Ebay ad.
These are links directly to Ebay auctions from people like you and
me that sell new energy solutions on the German Ebay platform.
As Ebay pays these clicks and Ebay has LOTS OF MONEY ( they are the most money makers
on the Internet these days..!) and only one click per day per IP address is counted,
it is enough, if you click once a day on one ad, which looks interesting to you.
This would be really appreciated, as this will pay the hosting of our forum here.
Many thanks.
P.S: The Ebay Revelance ad program is unfortunately only available yet on the
German Ebay platform, but I hope Ebay USA will soon also have it...
but anyway, checkout the German offers, sometimes they also have english description
in it and they are really intersting ! You sometimes really wonder what is already
availble in alternative energy via Ebay !
e.g this modification of a cheap clima-device to a heat pump:
CLICK THIS: modification of a cheap commercial clima-device to a powerful heatput (http://partners.webmasterplan.com/click.asp?ref=284148&site=1382&subid=&type=text&tnb=32&diurl=http%3A%2F%2Fadfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F707-3922-3266-17%3Fmpro%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fcgi.ebay.de%252Fws%252FeBayISAPI.dll%253FViewItem%2526item%253D6060937519)
Hopefully soon will be a plugin available, that lets me place ads at the sides,
so you can read the topics uninterupted, then it will be better.
Also I am thinking about putting a paid membership onto this forum
for PRO users, who don?t want to see advertisement and
the money I will use to conduct experiments and post it here only
for the PRO users, who pay and the normal user will
only get a short overview.
If now 2500 users would pay e.g. 1 to 5 US$ per month,
I could really do amzing things with this money.
I also could pay other experimenters for their efforts,
if they want to publish their experiment results over here
in detail with pictures and videos...
Do you all think this would be a good idea to introduce
a paid membership with these options ?
At least this way there would be coming in some
money which could be used to do experiments much faster
and get results much quicker as I could also let things
built by professional builders and pay them and so have devices
checked out much faster...
How many people of you would be ready to pay a monthly
fee of about 1 to 5 US$ for this ?
As we don?t get research money from the government or
other institutions, I only see this private way to get financed
and get forward by just many people paying a small
amout like a subscription to technical magazine newspaper...
What do you think. Please post your opinion.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan. ( moderator)
A dollar or a Euro per month seems pitched at the correct level. When you consider the implications of even a small replication success in the arena it is chicken feed to be in at the start of something truly revolutionary. There does seem to be nothing successfully OU and replicable as yet ( others may argue ) - lots of OU hot air but i live in hope.
Quote:
Do you all think this would be a good idea to introduce
a paid membership with these options ?
At least this way there would be coming in some
money which could be used to do experiments much faster
and get results much quicker as I could also let things
built by professional builders and pay them and so have devices
checked out much faster...
How many people of you would be ready to pay a monthly
fee of about 1 to 5 US$ for this ?
As we don?t get research money from the government or
other institutions, I only see this private way to get financed
and get forward by just many people paying a small
amout like a subscription to technical magazine newspaper...
What do you think. Please post your opinion.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan. ( moderator)
/End Quote.
Stefan,
I don't mind paying you some 10 to 20 Euros for the upkeep of this domain.
Because it would be nice if we didn't have these add banners anymore.
But not every member is able to pay that much or is willing to pay so I have my doubts somehow.
An other thing is that new people who will visit this site might not be willing to pay and therefor can not see anything what this site has to offer (or you could give them some teasers for free).
Anyway, I want this site to go on and am willing to pay some.
paying host cost mostly nothing, its moslty 5$ per month
i would prefer to create a new site like this one instead of paying for it!
Quote from: TheOne on May 28, 2006, 01:39:00 PM
paying host cost mostly nothing, its moslty 5$ per month
i would prefer to create a new site like this one instead of paying for it!
Well this domain is hosted by a fast and generous provider so I don't think you can have this for just 5 Euros a month.
For just 5 Euros a month you have a crappy site (domain) with a lot of offtime and slow download speeds and little backups if at all.
You only get what you pay for.
good host that offer 1.5 gb transfert cost 8$ per month and you can get cheaper for 1gb, this site dont use more then that, this site is just a forum.
nothing exceptional, that cost nothing beleive me, just the host and the .com
Quote from: TheOne on May 28, 2006, 02:11:02 PM
good host that offer 1.5 gb transfert cost 8$ per month and you can get cheaper for 1gb, this site dont use more then that, this site is just a forum.
nothing exceptional, that cost nothing beleive me, just the host and the .com
Mmm, and how about all the downloads of files?
I think 1 Gig is not enough for a site like this.
Remember the enormous traffic when the Steven Mark T.P.U. was a hot topic?
I think the site would have been down for the rest of the month after only one day of that kind of traffic if you have 1 Gig a month.
ops i mean 1500 gb or 1000 gb :) sorry
What if there was a section of this site that was membership or shopping cart based exclusively for the download of plans to build devices that the moderator knows to what degree that they work and their description? Downloaders and moderator would have to agree to a non-disclosure agreement to protect the inventor that does not have a patent, but downloaders/shopping cart would personally have the plans that you could build for yourself, but never disclose the idea or the model that they built (or anything similar) to anyone else. This membership area or shopping cart would be to help support the site costs, and mainly to give royalties to the inventor for his/her contribution. This would be an area that an inventor could financially benefit from the submission of his/her invention and builders would also have access as they support the site and the inventors. The better the idea, the more number of times it would be bought and downloaded, so 99% of royalties would go to the inventor and 1% to moderator and site. Inventor could separately rate his invention while Moderator could give his rating on all inventions on a 5 star rating system? 1 star = very speculative to 5 star = worthy/useful/proven invention...
But to make it work, an inventor would have to have it structured so that he/she could have absolute confidence in the system and the royalties and the protections of the idea of the invention... That the idea would not be for free to the public, but that the inventor would always receive payment of royalties everytime the idea is disclosed and downloaded to the public.
Inventor could discuss price for download with Moderator. Perhaps it could be offered through Ebay?
I don't know if it is really practical to do this, or how it could be done exactly, but just a thought to kick around.
Perhaps we could start royalties off of this being the first idea submitted. ;) Ha!
Liberty
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD KEEP THIS SITE FREE!
Quote from: FreeEnergy on May 28, 2006, 04:29:10 PM
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD KEEP THIS SITE FREE!
Yep I agree, that would be best for humankind.
But on the otherhand it is fair if we help HartiBerlin with the upkeep of this site.
Maybe he could ask us a month or two before he has to pay again if we want to donate some to help him out?
I want to help him and I am sure others do want to help too.
its why this site use ADS
Well, for the basic info this site will always be free,
but I might add some more advertisement, but only
useful ads like the current Ebay ads from the topic
alternative new energy, so you are not annoyed
by blinking ring tone advertisement for mobile phones
or simular crap...
When the plugin for skyskraper ads will be available I will
have at the sides some small ads and then I can
also remove the ads between the postings.
But as the number of users are getting higher,
also the traffic will get higher and I am pondering new
ideas how to introduce some more value
for powerusers and users who would like
to subscribe to a better service...
Well, this will still take a while,
cause I will first test on a different test
forum all the plugins and new features,
before I can build this into the overunity.com
forum.
One plugin , which is still in developemnt is
also the email to forum plugin, so you could
just email your posting and also
get feedback via email.
Maybe I will offer this for a very low subscription price
as these users don?t see the ads...
we will see... also I have to see, how the PayPal
donation is working and I still have to test this plugin..
so for the next few weeks we will let the forum
still run, as it is for now...