Hi All,
please have a look at this new video on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViwkrbJOkM4
The author gave me permission to copy it to my youtube channel and
said, he wanted to make it widely known.
He claims, that he is working on a bigger unit and will soon also upload
the video of the bigger unit to youtube.
What do you think about it ?
Looks to me like a Perendev motor with some helper coils...
Any idea, how the helper coils could be working ?
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.
P.S: The inventor wrote on his channel:
He wrote about this video:
In this opportunity i would like to show you a completely magnetic motor. This kind of motor DOES NOT need to be supply by any kind of battery, or electrical net or solar energy, because it uses his own alimentation by spinning. And, at the same time, can generates extra electric current (as we can see, the led lights connected to the motor are on).
The principle is easy to understand. All the motors have one rotor and one stator, but in this motor, we have three neodymium discs (instead of a rotor) and two neodymium rings (instead of a stator) and one last neodymium ring that functions as a magnetic oscillator, self-excited by a stage of captors. This captors commutes the magnet's polarities.
This very same principle its now being use in our last prototype: 1 HP (600 W free). We will upload as soon as possible an explication video for the HP.
The prototype that you seeing in this video provides 50 W free (12V CC - 4 Amp).
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Regards, STefan.
I am delighted to see new progress on a magnet motor.
The helper coil could be helping the rotor get over the
sweet spot between the magnetic fields where it can stick.
Also the coils could be acting the other way, like an alternator,
generating power to run the LEDs...
This is the same concept as what I am doing with The Bucking
Magnet Motor, but this guy has started with Perendev's and
added an alternator. While I went off on my own tangent...
We're going to see a lot more stuff like this in the future...
Edit: He had to spin it before engaging the stator, that means
that it is not self starting. I want mine to self start. Also he
is running LEDs, I am lighting incandescent bulbs...
Isn't it awesome how strong the brightness of the LEDs are when he spins it with his hand? He must have a couple of collector coils and very good ones too. I wonder if he will publish detailed instructions.
P.S: His website is:
http://torianproyect.blogspot.com/
but there is not yet any more info.
Regards, Stefan.
Hi Harti_Berlin,
Thank you for pointing out this new device.
As far as I can catch it, it works 'tangentially' (side by side).
IMHO, this is a very subtle idea to deal with the "sticky point".
This let me think about the Latin way of seduction: no confrontation just suggestion.
Yes, I'm getting too "scientifical". ;D
BTW: my best regards to Z-Monkey.
Very Best
Quote from: NerzhDishual on June 30, 2011, 11:38:59 PM
BTW: my best regards to Z-Monkey.
Howdy NerzhDishual,
J'espère que vous faites bien...
I hope the translator worked right...
Quote from: hartiberlin on June 28, 2011, 01:50:31 PM
Hi All,
please have a look at this new video on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViwkrbJOkM4
The author gave me permission to copy it to my youtube channel and
said, he wanted to make it widely known.
He claims, that he is working on a bigger unit and will soon also upload
the video of the bigger unit to youtube.
What do you think about it ?
Looks to me like a Perendev motor with some helper coils...
Any idea, how the helper coils could be working ?
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.
The only thing we need to do, is to let the device itself provide the energy to run the helper coils instead of the LED's. If the machine then really do selfrun, we have the real deal. Maybe you could ask him to try that. It should be pretty easy to try.
Then we will know for shure how the helper coils are working, and how much power they consume versus the power output.
EDIT: I was pretty fast there. I can see it runs. So where is the hidden battery, and why is it accidently providing the power to run the LEDs without burning them out? Why is the RPM so stable?
A device which runs on pure magnetism, should not have back EMF to limit the RPM. The RPM should increase out of control. But it shure does look pretty stable...
Vidar
@Z.Monkey
The translator gave a very understandable translation but no a very accurate one for a French "nitpicker" (nitpicking is one of some French people favorite fad ;D).
Google gives:
I hope that you are doing well = J'espère que vous faites bien.
To be accurate, according to Google, the English sentence should have been:
"I hope that you are going good" = J'espère que vous allez bien.
BTW: Yes, I'm doing well and also "going good", but I still not have found anything 'OU'. :-\
Now, I'm into 'HHO'...
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I'm under the impression (= I strongly do believe) that our Official Science does not still catch very well (good) what is going on with "electricity" and "magnetism".
Very Best
I think science understand electricity and magnetism quite well. How could science ever predict within very narrow tolerances how an electric motor would run in real life versus the mathematical simulations? Energy is a process, not something that is created. Energy is temporary, a process of equalization between two different potentials. Nature hates differences. And I cannot think of one simple reason why nature should make any exceptions.
@Low-Q (the 'misnamed', IMHO).
I beg to differ (I do like this expression :D) about Mainstream Science.
To me: Mainstream Science sucks despite some equations.
Anyway, It will cost me too much (not free!) NRG to argue.
Meanwhile, I do not diverge about your views upon NRG.
I was just expressing a strong 'belief', indeed, but a mere belief'.
Please 'believe' me, it is not so easy to discuss, debate, argue in another language
that you native one, especially when you have learnt it from 'outside'. .
But perhaps, English is not your native language also?
In that case : "chapeau!". You got it right.
My aim, here, is not to confront with anybody, but, on the contrary, to befriend
with some individual and to, as far as I'm able to, give some information.
Very Best
Quote from: NerzhDishual on July 03, 2011, 04:30:18 PMbut I still not have found anything 'OU'. :-\
Concerning overunity, I let loose a spiel here...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6944.msg292305#msg292305
This looks like a Perendev motor. Those coils for generating electricity to those leds.
@Z-Monkey
Thanks a lot for your link. OU dot com is so huge.
I have not still read the whole thread.
I was not accurate when I said "but I still not have found anything 'OU'".
I actually meant : I have not achieved *myself* any experiment that
shows any (so called) "OU".
Or? Did you get me right and were the 2 letters 'OU' that repulsed you?
You preach to the choir... "OU" is misnamed and Free NRG can be
very expensive, especially when sold by some con artists...
Anyway, I use "OU" because, to me, "OU" means:
No more fossil fuel.
No more "Fuck U Shima Die Itchy".
No More PWB/(W?) Kontrol.
Yes, I'm dreaming... :P
I'm under the impression that achieving "OU" (being able to catch
NRG from some still not officially recognized 'outside' source) is (still)
a matter of Mojo/Magic (like dowsing) and that only some individuals are gifted with.
I sounds like that the "OU paradigm" is not enough "engraved" in the so called
"collective conscientiousness". Rupert Sheldrake?
Anyway, I can feel that the 2011 year should be a beginning.
Very best
Quote from: hartiberlin on June 28, 2011, 01:58:27 PM
P.S: The inventor wrote on his channel:
He wrote about this video:
In this opportunity i would like to show you a completely magnetic motor. This kind of motor DOES NOT need to be supply by any kind of battery, or electrical net or solar energy, because it uses his own alimentation by spinning. And, at the same time, can generates extra electric current (as we can see, the led lights connected to the motor are on).
The principle is easy to understand. All the motors have one rotor and one stator, but in this motor, we have three neodymium discs (instead of a rotor) and two neodymium rings (instead of a stator) and one last neodymium ring that functions as a magnetic oscillator, self-excited by a stage of captors. This captors commutes the magnet's polarities.
This very same principle its now being use in our last prototype: 1 HP (600 W free). We will upload as soon as possible an explication video for the HP.
The prototype that you seeing in this video provides 50 W free (12V CC - 4 Amp).
===========
Regards, STefan.
my issue is (and you all undertsand my brain is a logic computer nothing more) is that the disks as shown numbers 2 and 3 do nothing, the proof is simple, if these two disks can trun the machine from the alignment of the disks, then they can do it without the first disk, if thgey cannot, then they do not contribute to the macine. There is no connection other than the sahft, so there is no input from the rest of the machine, thus they help by self truning or do not help. I end this with simply saying that i do not question oif the machine works or not, it it too complex without any specs (as usual) so to me if it runs, only the front disk does this, again if the two rear disks trun the machine then they can do it without the front section, if not the front section is carrying the last two disks. That is my logic view, use it or dont.
The white plastic could hide batteries, motors, wireless energy receptors etc.
It may be more expensive (?) to buy and shape clear plastic, but without it, the video doesn't mean much.
I'm not suggesting there is anything wrong with the principles behind the device, but I won't bother researching something unless the video is solid.
(I assume any scientific mind trying to prove they have solved the perpetual puzzle of free energy would realize their demonstrative video must be as unambiguous as possible to warrant anyi serious interest or investigation.)
New video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAIG0-lNSEs&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL shows how it works and anounce the blue prints
Where can I buy those magnetic wheels he has in the video? I would like to try and replicate something similar to that design...Thanks!
Hello I am trying to understand the new video from Torian III. This is the stator, mounted with 2 rods, one of them magnetic.
wow, its a good thing, can we use this energy as electrical energy for electric scooters (http://electricscootersworld.com/).
In that case that will be the outstanding power.
I tryed to edit the last post, there was a mixtake seeing the video, both rods are wrongly placed. The 3 rotors are exactly the same desing, 15 magnets al with the same polarity north, or south.
This would be the rotors, with 15 neodymium with the same polarity. Thanks to Tony, the Torian engineer, he told that the rotors mustn't have any metal part to fix the neodymium magnets.
any update on this?
Quote from: Poit on September 25, 2011, 04:24:46 PM
any update on this?
Another one bites the dust?
How about
Jeremiah Joseph Sturk and his Tri-Metatron Orion project?
http://trimetatron.tripod.com/index.html
Gone gone gone.
*sigh*
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Any new Plans from Argentin? 8)
CAD or calculations of motor, of magnets ...
I am trying to replicate this project but it seems to me that is something wrong here.
The way I see this project, the coils are not for for helping the motor, the coils are for energy capture.
Another problem: it could not work with the same number of magnets in rotor / stator
About that 2 rods I can`t understand why 1 is magnetic.
About the magnets, i wonder why 1 of them ( in the stator ) is "upside-down" (talking about poles )
Did anyone see the real blue prints?
Guys, The Torian Motor, AKA Argentinian Magnet Motor is (and has ever been) a fraud.
The machine you see in the videos is powered by hidden batteries and it's unique objective was to get investors (supposedly for R&D) and defraud them.
Actually the Torian Group got more than 300K Argentinian Pesos (almost 60K US Dollars) by ripping people off, and that's an important amount of money in Argentina.
This magnet motor is as scam just like all the other ones.