http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/7096-peter-davey-heater-4.html#post161435
The Movie
http://www.youtube.com/user/core315185#p/a/u/0/Z2bxYD5gRVY
This wasn't expected to work yet.... Core hasn't started the "Tune" yet
This is Absolutely amazing !!
Next stop Timothy Thrapp WITTS Ministries Creepos
We need to get behind this 100 % asap!!
Chet
Quote from: ramset on October 08, 2011, 07:07:18 PM
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This wasn't expected to work yet.... Core hasn't started the "Tune" yet
This is Absolutely amazing !!
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We need to get behind this 100 % asap!!
Chet
Calm down Chet! (**)
the time to get excited is not when
yet another person (re)discovers the 'no-tuning necessary' Joule heating of water using electric current - which NerzhDishual's tests had confirmed by page 10 of the 32 page "Peter Davey Heater" thread here in this forum in 2008
the time to get excited is when someone presents some actual (& meaningful) data showing output heat energy produced > input electric energy supplied (ie. a COP > 1)
(**) don't worry - sometimes
i forget to take
my meds, too ;)
Quote from: nul-points on June 03, 2008, 07:16:43 PM
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actually, i think the single most amazing fact about this whole device here, is that it's inventor has not electrocuted himself before now!
look at that water all over his work surfaces where he rests his three closely-joined metal electrodes, themselves covered in water, which are connected directly to the mains
you see, if you survive flying a Spitfire in wartime, the Universe has basically run out of threats to you!!
if you think Peter Davey's 'kettle' is cool - wait 'till you see his electric toothbrush - ouch! ;D
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Regardless of what the actually efficiency is, it is obvious that it is a much more efficient way to heat water then any other means we use today. That in its self is a major accomplishment which deserves replication as well as more testing and experimenting to get the best results possible.
Witts showed a sphere starting at 100 and reaching 180 in 2 minutes using a 9 volt battery. I am very sceptical of there findings mainly due to the religious BS behind them but after seeing what Core has done, it may just be legitimate and or possible.
Quote from: nightlife on October 09, 2011, 01:25:42 AM
Regardless of what the actually efficiency is, it is obvious that it is a much more efficient way to heat water then any other means we use today. That in its self is a major accomplishment which deserves replication as well as more testing and experimenting to get the best results possible.
Witts showed a sphere starting at 100 and reaching 180 in 2 minutes using a 9 volt battery. I am very sceptical of there findings mainly due to the religious BS behind them but after seeing what Core has done, it may just be legitimate and or possible.
the 'inefficiency' here is the time and effort wasted by many people repeating what has been said and done in several forums over several years - and yet still spamming unrelated topic threads with a 'NEWS FLASH!' about "Amazing" developments
the original patent (and other later, related, ones) clearly shows an industrial type water heater using direct Joule heating of water - no hint of 'OU'
the Witts water heater 'claim' seems to suggest heating by cavitation - which does not appear to be related to the Joule heating occurring in Peter Davey's 'kettle'
Is it all water? It looks like it is a lighter fluid on top which doesn't mix with water. You can actually see the waves in the middle of the "water". Any thoughts?
Vidar
Quote from: Low-Q on October 09, 2011, 06:22:44 AM
Is it all water? It looks like it is a lighter fluid on top which doesn't mix with water. You can actually see the waves in the middle of the "water". Any thoughts?
Vidar
hi Vidar
do you mean in the photo i posted above? if so, he doesn't have the device completely immersed in the water in this photo
water can enter the globe at the bottom and steam can escape through vents at the top - if he completely immerses the 'globe' then the steam just bubbles up to the surface of the water when it boils
hope this helps
Nul Points
You are intitled to your oppinions!]
I see room for improvement !! You see I don't know if you are aware of it
But we also have another device that works in a similar way
but we don't know why,,
here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/8999-peter-daysh-davey-water-heater-query-13.html#post161528
An Alleged Tesla device,{the inventor that has succesfully replicated this Tesla Water heating device is assisting Slovenia ]
This is the one Slovenia is building [me Too] ,
I suspect this is what we're gonna do with Tesla's device
Here
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Pistol+Shrimp+you+tube&mid=D49D9DCB1AA0F5941A60D49D9DCB1AA0F5941A60&view=detail&FORM=VIRE6
You are a very Bright man ,and I value your opinions and experience!
One thing does Puzzle me though,you call it "spam"?
Then you contribute valuble information??
Perhaps if you contributed the info First ??
Our very limited supply of sincere and dedicated experimenters would have
better info to work with!
Just a thought!!
Thank You
Chet
PS
OH Yes I do Believe!!!!!!!
@nul-point: look at the water after the heating experiment. Between the surface and bottom there is a visible wave, just the same as you see when you poor food oil in the glass of water. Like a surface between oil and water.
Quote from: ramset on October 09, 2011, 09:02:27 AM
Nul Points
You are intitled to your oppinions!]
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Quote from: ramset date=1318165347
You are a very Bright man...
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...not according to my wife! :)
Quote from: ramset date=1318165347
One thing does Puzzle me though,you call it "spam"?
Then you contribute valuble information??
Perhaps if you contributed the info First ??
Our very limited supply of sincere and dedicated experimenters would have
better info to work with!
Just a thought!!
Thank You
Chet
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this topic was the subject of a thread on OU.com, started around beginning 2008 iirc
along with several other members here i contributed information, suggestions and questions to that thread in its first year of about three years of activity
...so i guess you
could say that i've "contributed the info first", eh? :)
it's possible that the "very limited supply of sincere and dedicated experimenters", which you mention, could save themselves some duplication of effort by starting where others have finished, rather than back at the beginning again
yes, i have seen the 'Slovenia'-related work, also, thanks
i have no problem contributing to discussions - if i think i can offer any useful observations, suggestions, answers, etc.
however, in the case of the Peter Davey heater it seems it's largely reached a point of people having to 'RTFM'
my use of the word 'spam' refers to the off-topic inclusion of posts in topics unrelated to efficient water heating (eg. Lenz-related electromagnetics and HHO systems for vehicle modification) just to say things like 'see thread XXX on forum YYYY for an "Amazing" development' - especially when that 'amazing' development doesn't appear to be anywhere significantly different from its last re-incarnation
as you say, i'm entitled to my opinion - and i voiced it! ;)
good luck with your experiments
NP
A lot can happen in the Science Of OU in 4 years.as well as the ability to experiment more effectively!
I'll keep you posted.
Thanks
Chet
Ps your wife sounds like a smart Woman...............
Quote from: ramset on October 09, 2011, 11:23:42 AM
NP
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Ps your wife sounds like a smart Woman...............
...apart from agreeing to marry me ;)
Core made another movie
http://www.youtube.com/user/core315185#p/a/u/0/aAhOZKGEzME
Np
I see this as an extension of the frequency discoveries with flourescence!
They found out you can do more with less at the right frequency!
Wouldn't it be a treat if we found out the same thing !!
I have a WaterEnergy1 vid that shows something along those lines I'll find it and post
Chet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsmdSkYEp6M
Nul Points
READ THE TEXT!!
thx
Chet
Hi All,
Been trying to figure out what could be the cause of this heating. I found two papers which are interesting.
Acoustic wave heating of the thermosphere
http://yly-mac.gps.caltech.edu/z_temp/4%20soozen/jupiter%20wave%20heating%202011%20%20copy/Hickey_Acoustic%20wave%20heating_2001.pdf
Harmonic generation upon mixing an s-polarised wave
and a wave heating a metal
http://iopscience.iop.org/1063-7818/40/6/A06
QuoteAbstract. It is shown that when an s-polarised wave is mixed with a wave of the same frequency, which is incident along the normal to the metal surface, three frequency-doubled waves are generated. Two of them are p-polarised and one is s-polarised. The effect of the electron and lattice temperature evolution on the SHG efficiency is described quantitatively.
An anomalously strong change in the generation efficiency of an s-polarised harmonic is found during temperature variations, which leads to a noticeable change in the electron collision frequency.
Dream
Get to the TK thread
The game is afoot!!
Chet
in france a con man Jean-Christophe Dumas is using the peter davey's device
to give lecture on free energy
sorry it is in french
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT36PaqqfTU
This is now known as the Dumas effect apparently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28b50BAx1YY from Robert Murray Smith
Ahh yes, the dumbass heater.
Originally dubbed a casimir resonant cavity heater
(a bit heavy on the tounge),
This device was an electromagnetic version of prior resonant cavity heaters
developed since the late 17th century. The prior operated by heat, sound, or steam.
The physics advanced by Casimir in this area
combined with the biological study of the Pistol Shrimp
led to the development of the science of cavitation.
Interesting to note that the steam version was purported to produce more steam output than input.