Im a bit puzzled here. On my first video/experiment I recharged 2 batteries with 2 batteries. Two batteries in series recharging two batteries in parallel. The experiment ran the pulse motor and recharged the two in parallel in 3 days. Then I moved forward and still always using 2 batteries in series,,I recharged three batteries in Parallel. The experiment took 4 days. Now I am running another experiment, which is almost done I think, still always using two batteries in series to recharge 4 batteries in parallel now. Its been running 6 days so far. The motor is spinning slower, as Im thinking its near the finish recharge, but then I thought that the other day. The parallel batteries have charged up to 1.385 or also known as 1.38 volts each for the 4 parallel batteries. And Im thinking the test may end today and then I run a regular motor, not the modified pulse motor, with one recharged battery and time it as I usually do. All filmed of course as my last video recharging 3 batteries. But what confuses me a bit is one would think the pulse motor would run less days for each added parallel battery that must be recharged/used in the circuit since it would take more energy to do so, but the opposite is happening. And yes I always drain the parallel batteries on a motor before the test begin and then I even cross positive to negative for a time to drain any remaining charge from the batteries. And I always start with two fully recharged series batteries. Now I can get that perhaps some of the back emf from the modified pulse motor, which constantly makes and breaks electrical connection as it spins is also going into the recharging batteries,,added energy there,,but is it enough to give these results? When all test are done on the recharging 4 batteries ill post the video series on youtube as my last one. So whats your opinion of this?
I don't believe you have a real working OU pulse motor, because you are using batteries and most of us have seen many of these types of motor where the inventor is convinced the device is OU, sadly when accurate testing and measuring is done the truth is not so good.
your best option would be to run your motor using capacitors only, if your motor kept running then you would truly have something amazing, the irony is if it did work it would be used to charge batteries ;D
It is almost impossible for you to prove your design works if you insist on using batteries and the measurements you get from them.
most of us that have been here long enough have seen this mistaken belief so many times.
It would be the best news ever if you could prove me wrong.
Good luck
Well its not that Im stating the motor itself is overunity,,all it does is make and break electrical connection as it spins,,since one of the three contacts on the motors rotor is broken off. But that it allows this,,and the way its all wired allows for a type of over unity recharging by perhaps also contributing a bit of back emf Im assuming to it all. Since I start with 2 batteries in series as the powering batteries of the whole setup. Then they recharge the other batteries in parallel while also powering the pulse motor. I have done a 2 to 2 ratio recharge, meaning 2 in series recharge 2 in parallel. Then I have done a 2 to 3 ratio,,and now a 2 to 4 ratio. Then at the end I run one of the recharged parallel batteries on a regular motor,,time it and do the average math of the total run time I would get of all 4 batteries. If this overcomes the run time of the original motor test well you get it. The origional motor test was when I recharged 1 battery in my regular ac/outlet recharger. Then I ran that fully recharged battery on a regular motor and it ran 33 hours. So thats for 1 battery recharged by a regular recharger. And by running one of the parallel recharged batteries on a regular motor,,timing the run,,doing the average estimate of what total run time would be for all 4 batteries,,I know where im at. Now on the 2 to 3 ratio I had over 20 hours run time on a regular motor from one recharged parallel battery. This added up to over 60 hours total,,from all 3 parallel batteries. Now if one regular battery recharged in the regular ac battery recharger gives me 33 hours run time running a regular motor,,double that for the two series batteries powering it all..And i get 66 total hours run time. On the 2 to 3 ratio experiment it averaged to total run time 60 hours for all 3 parallel recharged batteries ,,But given I did also run the pulse motor through the whole experiment,,that is overunity as I should not have even got half that run time according to what is usually taught or thought anyway. I expect better results on my 2 to 4 ratio which is now in the final test run of running one of the parallel batteries that has been recharged on the 2 to 4 ratio, which also ran the pulse motor while recharging 4 in parallel for 6 days. Where as the 2 to 2 ratio ran 3 days recharging and the 2 to 3 ratio ran 4 days recharging. Now following electron flow,,we have electrons leaving the negative of the series batteries, then they run into and through the pulse motor,,then they leave the motor and run into the negative of the parallel batteries,,they then exit out the positive of the parallel batteries and then travel back into the positive of the series batteries. By this method we have two series batteries that drain,,as electrons leave negative and enter back into positive through a circuit,,thats how batteries drain. But for batteries to recharge you must make electrons enter the negative and leave the positive. And thats how this design works.
This is your title (Overunity pulse motor) thoughts/opinions?
I'm sorry you're not telling me anything new, you can't rely on batteries they are a chemical reaction and strange things and measurement can happen when charging and discharging in different ways, it is well documented on this forum.
please try it with capacitors and see for yourself, after all if your motor and circuit is producing excess energy then it should work with capacitors. if not then all you are doing is changing the chemical reaction inside the battery and getting unusual results, as interesting as that it is not going to solve the world's energy problems and nor is it going to be OU.
It is the chemical reaction inside the battery that is being used, some chemical reactions can do amazing things,
but as yet none have been proven to be OU.
I forgot to mention, that when the charging of the parallel batteries is done and the pulse motor stops running. Using a meter each of the series batteries still have a reading of 1.306 at 1.30 volts left in them. And they will still power a motor, flashlight or whatever.
Quote from: stevensrd1 on December 08, 2011, 06:31:38 PM
I forgot to mention, that when the charging of the parallel batteries is done and the pulse motor stops running. Using a meter each of the series batteries still have a reading of 1.306 at 1.30 volts left in them. And they will still power a motor, flashlight or whatever.
What about the amps? Volts mean nothing without amps. Just because you started with a certain voltage and ended with the same does not mean you started with a certain amount of energy and ended with the same. Energy = watts, voltage X amps = watts. You must measure the amps as well as the voltage and figure out what the watts are at start and then at finish to determine what the loss or gain is if any at all.
You are correct, and as much as I try to appear that I know everything about this experiment, truth is I do not. all I know is what is shown in the videos and what I stated on here. I have been going by run times of how long a battery runs a motor afterward, after they are recharged by this experiment.
That is not about amperage or watts,,also I do not even know how to do the math so well in relation to amperage or watts. I could read up on it more and learn, but have not. Its the running of a device on the recharged batteries and how long such can be done thats important to me,,not so much all the numbers or math. Perhaps that is to simple for what most term overunity,,but it works for me. As I said earlier I was doing the 2 to 4 ratio experiment, which ran for 6 days recharging the parallel batteries, and is over as of yesterday,,and I also noted the more batteries recharge at a time,,the longer the pulse motor runs or takes to recharge the parallel batteries. At present time of writing this,,I have been doing a motor run time test on one of my 4 batteries that has been recharged in this experiment. The test started yesterday at 1:35 pm,,and yes the motor is slowing by now, which is 6:10 am some 16 or a bit more hours later..Giving me at present by simple math 64 total hours run time with all 4 of the recharged batteries. And by the set value I used at the beginning where I recharged 1 battery in my regular ac/outlet battery recharger which then ran the same motor Im using now for the motor run time test,,it ran 33 hours. So doubling that for the total time 2 series batteries separately would run a motor being 66 hours,,I am now only 2 hours short of assumed unity. But given the pulse motor ran the whole time, maybe energy loss comes from that taking up the two hours left. And thats where Im at now,,stated as it is I guess. Ill put the video of this on youtube shortly, have to turn it into many 15 minute videos since youtube only accepts up to 15 minuted of video time per video,,so it will be a series like the 2 to 3 ratio videos were,,but this will be the 2 to 4.
Hi folks, Hi steven, the way you are going about testing seems fine to me.
I also have been making similar tests and when using batteries, the only reliable way to know energy in charge bank is load testing based on time, just as you are doing.
Do not give another thought to those trying to lower your spirits, if nothing of value comes from any one test, one learns and has fun, which is what life is about ultimately.
peace love light
tyson :)
Hey Steven
Yea, dont let anyone get to ya. Some of them are just rude and harsh.
Keep up the good work. And 360 reads on your first page, in what, 1 day. ;]
Lol, I laughed when you said, I dont care about the numbers... ;] What you said after that was a great answer. Good post. ;]
When you measure the voltage of the battery with 1 meter, and use another meter to measure the current, going in, or out, of the battery, you can calculate power in watts. Voltage x Amperage = Watts.
Easy enough. This way you will have more complete data for others that ask. ;]
Make a log book on a timely basis on V and A over the time period that it takes to empty the input battery. The data will help you understand whats going on, similar to seeing the start to finish changes in the motor along the way.
Ive done this. Its interesting to see how much power(watts) is being used by the motor when the input battery is fresh, as compared to just before the motor takes its last breaths. And some plateaus along the way that the input battery seems to climb in voltage for a while. Fun stuff.
Good luck, will be watching. ;]
Mags
Sorry guys but if you want to know how efficient the design really is, you must do the math. Knowing the numbers alows to make adjustments without waiting which helps save time. Knowing the watts in and the watts out is most important when trying to build the most efficient design. To do that, you must do the math. The math is easy. Volts x amps = watts then subtract the watts in from the watts out. Then divide the total by the watts in and that will give you your efficiency total. For example:
[IN] 50 volts X 10 amps = 500 watts
[OUT] 50 volts X 9 amps = 450 watts
500 watts - 450 watts = 50 watts
50 watts divided by 500 = .10
1 - .1 = .9 which = 90%
I am not trying to be a buzz kill, I am just trying to help you save some time and frustration. Saving time saves money and eliminating just a tad bit of frustration is priceless. LOL
Good luck and I hope this helps.
My apologies if anyone is getting upset by my posts I am only trying to get to the truth and give some advice.
When any one makes a claim of OU it needs to be investigated as it might be the answer were all looking for.
The word Overunity is often overused on this forum.
:o some of you seem to think I'm being unreasonable to expect to find OU on a (Overunity Forum) and for the person making that claim to prove their claim......................... I don't think that is unreasonable.
Just started a new test,, using 2 in series to recharge 5 in parallel. I figure why not see how far I can go with it. Will take prob more then six days to complete, given it took 3 days run of the unity motor to recharge 2 in parallel and given it took 4 days for the 2 to 3 ratio experiment,,and 6 days for the 2 to 4 ratio experiment and then another day or so after that for the motor run time test using one of the recharged parallel batteries. But Im filming it. Ive done did the start of the video showing the start readings,,for the 5 in parallel reading is 0.993 o.98volts as I did a really good drain on them. and start reading of the series batteries is 2.73 volts. So Ill see how this does, it will either do better or worse then the 2 to 4 ratio meaning 2 in series recharging 4 in parallel. the videos on that 2 to 4 ratio are on youtube, if you missed the link Ill post it here,,just follow through if you want as its a 4 part mini series. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiTSMA7e0Tg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiTSMA7e0Tg)
I dont know if anyone is interested in these numbers or not, but thought Id write a few of them, they are all in the video anyway. In day 2 now, heres what I have from day 1 to now. These readings are from the recharging batteries, then when its all done Ill do a regular motor run time test on one of the 5 recharged parallel batteries that Im recharging. I was worried a bit at first as I had accidently crossed the pos and neg of the series bats for a few seconds, but it dont seem to have effected it I guess, surely not much anyway, worst case scenario Ill redo it all lol. Ok start of 2 series batteries were 2.73 volts and start of 5 parallel batteries were 0.993 or 0.98 volts time was 9:43 am then, Like i said earlier I did a really good drain on all the 5 parallel batteries. I try to get them as drained as I can before the start of the experiments. 1.040 1.03 volts at 11:44 am,,,,1.186 1.18 volts at 6:11 pm,,,,day 2--,,,1.286 1.28 volts,, and that was at 3:21 am. So thats where Im at now recharging the 5 in parallel from the 2 in series on the overunity pulse motor.
Its still going here,,but Ill just leave the rest to the video.