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Title: Luxury Hydrogen Fuel Cell Boat Draws Electricity From Sea Water
Post by: powercat on December 23, 2011, 05:18:10 AM
http://gas2.org/2011/12/22/luxury-hydrogen-fuel-cell-boat-draws-electricity-from-sea-water/
Title: Re: Luxury Hydrogen Fuel Cell Boat Draws Electricity From Sea Water
Post by: tagor on December 23, 2011, 06:52:19 AM
Quote from: powercat on December 23, 2011, 05:18:10 AM
http://gas2.org/2011/12/22/luxury-hydrogen-fuel-cell-boat-draws-electricity-from-sea-water/ (http://gas2.org/2011/12/22/luxury-hydrogen-fuel-cell-boat-draws-electricity-from-sea-water/)

there is a lot of info on the french forum

http://www.overunity.com/2542/moteur-a-eau/msg308512/#msg308512 (http://www.overunity.com/2542/moteur-a-eau/msg308512/#msg308512)
Title: Re: Luxury Hydrogen Fuel Cell Boat Draws Electricity From Sea Water
Post by: NerzhDishual on December 23, 2011, 05:49:01 PM

Hi Ou dot com Blokes,

This boat does exist.
In November 2011, a French mainstream TV aired a one minute report about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7JclwgAf-k& (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7JclwgAf-k&)
I could translate this report, should anybody might be interested in.

You have something like 250 000 Euros to spend (a trifle  :P )?
Go to  http://www.esprit-mer.com/index.html (http://www.esprit-mer.com/index.html)
A Cannes (south of France) based shipchandler.
Click at "MIG 675 - Hydrogène"

Does the motor run as claimed? I dunno...
I hope so, because this shipchandler (and the inventor) could face nasty lawsuits.  Could they not?

I phoned, a couple of months ago, to the inventor: Angi Le Floch.
He lives in Britanny and so I.

He is kind but not very "talkative".
He just told me that:
- he was using "dry cells"
- he could produce an huge quantity of HHO (you bet he should).
- he generated 50.000 volts but that the use of this voltage was "complicated"
- he got his idea partly from the Internet
- he was OK to receive me and to "take me for a ride" but that I would not
   be able to see the engine (even from a long way off...).

As I was just wanted to figure out whether his claims were genuine, I did not
persist and  gave up. Perhaps should I had insisted?

Anyway, I made a small page about his "MIG 675" here:
http://freenrg.info/Hydrogen/MIG_675/ (http://freenrg.info/Hydrogen/MIG_675/)
In f' French, sorry, but this can be botched-translated by Google.

Very Best


Title: Re: Luxury Hydrogen Fuel Cell Boat Draws Electricity From Sea Water
Post by: tagor on December 24, 2011, 02:08:26 AM
and Luxury page on facebook

http://fr-fr.facebook.com/pages/luxury/126448570773856 (http://fr-fr.facebook.com/pages/luxury/126448570773856)

sorry it is in french
Title: Re: Luxury Hydrogen Fuel Cell Boat Draws Electricity From Sea Water
Post by: tagor on December 24, 2011, 05:49:09 AM
 
http://www.astroman.com.pl/index.php?mod=magazine&a=read&id=1125 (http://www.astroman.com.pl/index.php?mod=magazine&a=read&id=1125)
Title: Re: Luxury Hydrogen Fuel Cell Boat Draws Electricity From Sea Water
Post by: DreamThinkBuild on December 24, 2011, 11:16:19 AM
Hi Tagor,

Thanks for the links.

With all that power generated our houses would look like this in the future:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/heather_on_the_go/239790191/

:)
Title: Re: Luxury Hydrogen Fuel Cell Boat Draws Electricity From Sea Water
Post by: tagor on December 24, 2011, 11:44:34 AM
Quote from: DreamThinkBuild on December 24, 2011, 11:16:19 AM
Hi Tagor,

Thanks for the links.

With all that power generated our houses would look like this in the future:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/heather_on_the_go/239790191/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/heather_on_the_go/239790191/)

:)

in the future the sea level will grow up 
we will put all the houses on piloti   


this engine is much more powerful than Rossi device

it has an enormous potential to produce electricity
Title: Re: Luxury Hydrogen Fuel Cell Boat Draws Electricity From Sea Water
Post by: tagor on November 28, 2012, 03:29:19 AM
look at PESN


http://pesn.com/2012/11/27/9602230_Water_as_Fuel--November_2012_Update/ (http://pesn.com/2012/11/27/9602230_Water_as_Fuel--November_2012_Update/)


http://www.overunity.com/2542/moteur-a-eau/new/#new (http://www.overunity.com/2542/moteur-a-eau/new/#new)


PS :

hi ! Harti !
did you meet LUXURY ?
have you any news ?
Title: Re: Luxury Hydrogen Fuel Cell Boat Draws Electricity From Sea Water
Post by: DaS Energy on December 03, 2012, 02:18:02 AM
Hello NerzhDishual,
Watched the video, it end CO2-70 KG, ??????????
Sea water is crammed with Hydrogen, not a problem to put an electrical arc though it and get heaps of Oxygen and Hydrogen. Problem is the wattage draw in doing so cannot extend past that being turned out by the generator on the engine, or battery life, whichever is producing the power.
Cheers Peter
Title: Re: Luxury Hydrogen Fuel Cell Boat Draws Electricity From Sea Water
Post by: tagor on December 03, 2012, 02:53:55 AM
Quote from: DaS Energy on December 03, 2012, 02:18:02 AM
Hello NerzhDishual,
Watched the video, it end CO2-70 KG, ??? ??? ??? ?
Sea water is crammed with Hydrogen, not a problem to put an electrical arc though it and get heaps of Oxygen and Hydrogen. Problem is the wattage draw in doing so cannot extend past that being turned out by the generator on the engine, or battery life, whichever is producing the power.
Cheers Peter

it is not sea water , it is "eau demineralisee"  , demineralized water

ther is something to filter the sea water and get demineralized water
Title: Re: Luxury Hydrogen Fuel Cell Boat Draws Electricity From Sea Water
Post by: DaS Energy on December 03, 2012, 04:41:06 AM
Hello Tagor,
Why the inventor would want to demineralise the water first ?
To get demineralised water out of salt water you boil it. Same applies to fresh water.
(sea water has more hydrogen than fresh) 
Should you want to experiment yourself, you will need two peices of wire and a battery. One wire onto each battery terminal and then place the wires into water. The bubbles you see going up the wires, one lot is hydrogen and the other lot oxygen.
Cheers Peter
Title: Re: Luxury Hydrogen Fuel Cell Boat Draws Electricity From Sea Water
Post by: tagor on December 03, 2012, 05:44:09 AM
Quote from: DaS Energy on December 03, 2012, 04:41:06 AM
Hello Tagor,
Why the inventor would want to demineralise the water first ?
To get demineralised water out of salt water you boil it. Same applies to fresh water.
(sea water has more hydrogen than fresh) 
Should you want to experiment yourself, you will need two peices of wire and a battery. One wire onto each battery terminal and then place the wires into water. The bubbles you see going up the wires, one lot is hydrogen and the other lot oxygen.
Cheers Peter

I don't know !!
this is the LUXURY way for the autonomus boat mig675
Title: Re: Luxury Hydrogen Fuel Cell Boat Draws Electricity From Sea Water
Post by: guruji on December 03, 2012, 07:18:26 AM
There are problems using salty water to Cells. First heating up and fumes are poisonous.
Thanks
Title: Re: Luxury Hydrogen Fuel Cell Boat Draws Electricity From Sea Water
Post by: DaS Energy on December 03, 2012, 08:29:41 AM
In the picture, the fuel cell has two large fan ports. Doing some cooling. Salt water boils with less heat. Demineralised water a slight of hand not a dishonesty, as first thought.
Off subject. Using 18th Centurary Naval tried before Coal pricing crashed. So long the seas dont freeze over. Todays Refrigerant, chuck out the pistons and down size. 300KW - 400 Horsepower.
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee397/DaSEnergy/290px-Carbon_dioxide_pressure-temperature_phase_diagram_svg.png (http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee397/DaSEnergy/290px-Carbon_dioxide_pressure-temperature_phase_diagram_svg.png)