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Title: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: clint on January 03, 2012, 01:25:00 AM
I have created a self powered machine which utilizes the V Gate magnet design and gravity to complete the self running loop.

I am looking for support on this product.   I have eliminated the "sticky spot" by skipping past it and using gravity to continue the loop.


I need to design a bit bigger model at least 3 x 3 feet in size, so that I can attach a small 3 phase generator to it.

My only problem is getting the magnets to complete my bigger design.  I can't purchase them in any of the local stores here and cannot order from online.  If someone has any advise as to where to get the neodymium magnets or can help me complete a bigger working model of my prototype by helping supply me with magnets on a C.O.D. charge (I have the funds to purchase materials, just not a means to purchase online), or if you even would be interested in supplying them to me for free or mention of your name as a major contributor, maybe we can even discuss a small percentage of Gross Profit from the machine when it is sold. 

This is a self sustaining continual running motor which creates energy by using magnetic pull + gravity to complete a loop.  I have found a way around the sticky spot. 

The machine starts by a simple push of one finger, and runs on a loop forever (300 - 400 years/life of magnets)

I have a working prototype, I am not asking for anything for free.  I have funds to pay for materials, just cannot purchase the magnets I need at any local stores.   Size would be about 3/8 x 1/2 cylindrical neodymium magnets, Anything bigger then that will work too.  I need at least 50 or 100 of these.  Money isn't a problem if anyone here would be willing to CoD me price + shipping costs+your time,  I will gladly pay. 

Please feel free to email me at clintwildes@yahoo.com if your serious and interested in helping me complete this bigger model with  the generator.  My patent can only be applied for after completion of the full model. 

Right now all I have is a self running V gate design machine, which is self running and has been running since christmas day with no problems and no stopping in the self running system.  Now I just need to make it a bigger size so I can connect the generator.

Thanks for Reading, and Good Luck.

Clint,
Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: Jimboot on January 03, 2012, 02:43:32 AM
I usually buy here http://www.kjmagnetics.com/ do you need axially or diametrically magnetised?
Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: clint on January 03, 2012, 03:07:26 AM
Quote from: Jimboot on January 03, 2012, 02:43:32 AM
I usually buy here http://www.kjmagnetics.com/ do you need axially or diametrically magnetised?

I would be needing Axially magnetized such as:

D68 (x50)

3/8" dia. x 1/2" thick
Grade N42 - Nickel Plated
Axially Magnetized

or

D66 (x50)

3/8" dia. x 3/8" thick
Grade N42 - Nickel Plated
Axially Magnetized

Let me know a price and if you would be willing to get them CoD.  Or does this company send CoD?   This is my only method for being able to purchase at the moment. 

Thanks,

Clint
Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: powercat on January 03, 2012, 06:36:11 AM
Quote from: clint on January 03, 2012, 01:25:00 AM

Right now all I have is a self running V gate design machine, which is self running and has been running since christmas day with no problems and no stopping in the self running system.  Now I just need to make it a bigger size so I can connect the generator.

Thanks for Reading, and Good Luck.

Clint,

If that's all you have, then you have more than enough and you have done something that nobody else has ever done and that alone makes your device unique, congratulations.

As far as I'm aware the design of your device is what is important and not the scale,
after all you make a big one and then somebody else makes an even bigger one later , that doesn't take away your rights as the Original inventor of the device.

I hope you make a video, then we can all see your groundbreaking work in action.

Three days into the new year and we already have a contender  ;D

Well done Clint
Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: DreamThinkBuild on January 03, 2012, 06:52:56 AM
Hi Clint,

Do you think your current version could run a small 12vdc motor as dc generator? Even a simple 3vdc motor as gen hooked to a LED you'd have constant light.
Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: broli on January 03, 2012, 07:57:38 AM
Just share what you have, would make things way easier for anyone.
Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: Cloxxki on January 03, 2012, 08:33:56 AM
Congrats, sounds awesome!

Please do share your work.

Even the smallest of generators would do IMO, as long as it keeps running under the load.

Perhaps you could test how much load the setup can endure without stalling?
Something as simple as a pencil for axle, wrapped by a little cord that runs off your table top over a little wheel, and then lifting a weight, will do. Just find out what it can, and can't lift.

Subscribing, hoping to learn more soon.

J
Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: Low-Q on January 03, 2012, 12:35:19 PM
Quote from: clint on January 03, 2012, 01:25:00 AM
I have created a self powered machine which utilizes the V Gate magnet design and gravity to complete the self running loop.

I am looking for support on this product.   I have eliminated the "sticky spot" by skipping past it and using gravity to continue the loop.


I need to design a bit bigger model at least 3 x 3 feet in size, so that I can attach a small 3 phase generator to it.

My only problem is getting the magnets to complete my bigger design.  I can't purchase them in any of the local stores here and cannot order from online.  If someone has any advise as to where to get the neodymium magnets or can help me complete a bigger working model of my prototype by helping supply me with magnets on a C.O.D. charge (I have the funds to purchase materials, just not a means to purchase online), or if you even would be interested in supplying them to me for free or mention of your name as a major contributor, maybe we can even discuss a small percentage of Gross Profit from the machine when it is sold. 

This is a self sustaining continual running motor which creates energy by using magnetic pull + gravity to complete a loop.  I have found a way around the sticky spot. 

The machine starts by a simple push of one finger, and runs on a loop forever (300 - 400 years/life of magnets)

I have a working prototype, I am not asking for anything for free.  I have funds to pay for materials, just cannot purchase the magnets I need at any local stores.   Size would be about 3/8 x 1/2 cylindrical neodymium magnets, Anything bigger then that will work too.  I need at least 50 or 100 of these.  Money isn't a problem if anyone here would be willing to CoD me price + shipping costs+your time,  I will gladly pay. 

Please feel free to email me at clintwildes@yahoo.com if your serious and interested in helping me complete this bigger model with  the generator.  My patent can only be applied for after completion of the full model. 

Right now all I have is a self running V gate design machine, which is self running and has been running since christmas day with no problems and no stopping in the self running system.  Now I just need to make it a bigger size so I can connect the generator.

Thanks for Reading, and Good Luck.

Clint,
You can just show this machine to win the over unity prize. Then you have money to take the first plane to a China manufacturer of neodym magnets ;)


Can't find magnets? Heard of internet? Try ebay. Lots of magnets there.


Try google clintwildes@yahoo.com. It seems you have more gifts than just making a permanent magnet motor working...


I think you are kidding us...really ;)


Vidar
Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: Lakes on January 03, 2012, 12:44:30 PM
Whatever you do, don`t tinker with/take apart the working prototype!
Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: Hope on January 03, 2012, 12:53:21 PM
Sure thing Clint,  just go to Wally World (Walmart) and get yourself a credit card and put the money on it there as you buy it (it is really a debit card) THEN order your own magnets via the net.  We would like to see your working model on a glass table in high def from all angles, but sure to walk ALL THE WAY around WHILE making a video in high definition.  Otherwise, your just wasting your time convincing the forum due to the MANY claims already pierced with reality here over the years.   Not saying it can not be done, just asking your time to show it.
Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: skywatcher on January 03, 2012, 05:36:02 PM
Quote from: clint on January 03, 2012, 01:25:00 AM
Right now all I have is a self running V gate design machine, which is self running and has been running since christmas day with no problems and no stopping in the self running system.  Now I just need to make it a bigger size so I can connect the generator.

You don't have to build a bigger version at this time, if you have a working prototype.

The most important thing is now to share all the information about the prototype, so that others will be able to replicate it.


If i write 'share all information', i mean ALL information:

- detailed mechanical plans with exact dimensions
- high-resolution photos where all details can be seen
- details about all the parts, especially the magnets (source, dimensions, strength, where to buy them...)

Building a bigger version can be done after the first replications are running.
Then you will have a community of people with working devices, and scaling it up will be no problem.

BTW i strongly doubt that it is possible to build a self-running machine only with passive parts (permament magnets).
But i would be happy to see (and have) one, if it really exists.  ;)
Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: Low-Q on January 03, 2012, 05:50:30 PM
Let's not hope the situation will turn into one of these options:


1. Either we will never hear from him again,
2. or he will make some "minor adjustments" (To a already working device), and then write a post which says his device cannot work anymore, so therefor he cannot show us how it worked,
3. or he have decided to not reveal the secrets, but start looking for investors because he is out of money,
4. or the machine broke down, and pieces flew in all directions - including one key component which landed in an big eagles nest - so he don't dare to find it,
5. or he will reveal a small secret that tells us that he has to "assis" just a little bit to make it run...but he is very close to a selfrunning machine,
6. or, after reading this post, be so "offended" that he won't visit www.overunity.com (http://www.overunity.com) ever again.


I am a little judging here, but it rang a a little bell (smelled fish) when he wrote something like: "I have no means to buy magnets online". What can that mean?


Well, Clint, you might be real, and after 3 posts on this forum suddenly show up with a claimed working device - which you even say is not enough for you because you want to make a bigger one to run a generator - well, I have a gut feeling that something is not right.


I should give you some credit - after all, I don't know you at all.


Vidar
Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: e2matrix on January 03, 2012, 09:54:39 PM
clint,  Please explain why you can't order the magnets online.  KJMagnetics.com mentioned here can take phone orders and you can even pay with a Money Order that you can send by regular mail.  They accept nearly all methods of payment so I am having a hard time imagining a scenario that would keep you from purchasing the magnets yourself from them or any number of  companies. 
Most of all if you want any help here you will want to show what you have in some way but just coming here asking for help in the way you did is going to throw up some red flags for anyone whose been around here any time at all.  Good luck with your project. 
Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: Light on January 03, 2012, 11:06:29 PM
Quote from: clint on January 03, 2012, 01:25:00 AM
I am looking for support on this product.   I have eliminated the "sticky spot" by skipping past it and using gravity to continue the loop.


congratulations!..
yes, all you need is gravity or momentum of inertia to overcome a "field's reversing point" (sticky spot);
although it might not be able to run a gen, but surely can keep it running by itself... make a table-model of "magnetic-gravity" demo-device and they'll bring you magnets...
:D

Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: gauschor on January 04, 2012, 12:00:18 PM
@Low-Q: unfortunately I must agree. When I read he needs (money) support for bigger parts I already knew: he hasn't got a working device, but in his mind he is almost finished - theoretically. Mike Brady anyone?...
Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: Low-Q on January 05, 2012, 05:35:14 PM
If it was as simple as this:


A V-track on a cylinder - like we have seen from Roobert33. However, with a weight on the wheel 180 degrees from the V-track end. This weight will force the rotation to wobble. The weight will use its centrifugal force to move the sticky spot away for a moment so the loop can repeat. The wheel can be tracked so it will only follow a stright wobble. Or using gavity to enhance the effect.


I have a feeling that this is the very basic idea from Clint. However, energy are lost during the wobble, so the machine cannot self run. It seems obvius that this can work, so Clint has probably been too excited about his idea and therefor choosed to risc credibility by saying he has a working magnet motor. Well, being excited can happen to us all.


If you need a drawing of the idea, please let me know.


Vidar
Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 05, 2012, 08:57:34 PM
. ;D
Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: Low-Q on January 06, 2012, 07:17:09 PM
Here is an animation of what I think Clints idea was. The V-track wheel has end and beginning at the opposite side of the weight. A strong spring is keeping the wheel in place except when the weight reach the bottom. At this position the distance between the magnet and the end of the V-track will increase to reduce the sticky spot - so the wheel can start over.

Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: Light on January 06, 2012, 11:51:23 PM
Quote from: Low-Q on January 06, 2012, 07:17:09 PM
...opposite side of the weight... At this position the distance between the magnet and the end of the V-track will increase to reduce the sticky spot - so the wheel can start over.


hi-IQ thinking, Low-Q :)
milkovich's mechanical oscillator is the best solution for this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIx-m6F2Jrw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIx-m6F2Jrw)
cheers
Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: lumen on January 07, 2012, 12:50:35 AM
Low-Q,
That's actually kind of interesting. I wonder if the V-track would be operating in attraction or repel?
Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: Low-Q on January 08, 2012, 05:05:53 PM
Quote from: Light on January 06, 2012, 11:51:23 PM

hi-IQ thinking, Low-Q :)
milkovich's mechanical oscillator is the best solution for this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIx-m6F2Jrw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIx-m6F2Jrw)
cheers
The problem with these designs, both the video and my animation above, is that when the system is loaded, there will occour a mechanical phase delay which will require energy to sustain. In the video it is a coil over a magnet, and a pendulum. When the coil is loaded enough, the coil will try to resist movement, and therfor delay the timing between the pendulum and the movement of the coil. This will constantly fight against the movement in the pendulum, and the pendulum will stop faster.


In the animation: To avoid the sticky spot, I have attached a weight which pulls the whole wheel away from it. However, the timing here is also going out of phase. When the weight is positioned at 5:30 there is a greater attraction between the magnet and the V-track than when the weight is positioned at 6:30. This means that the "notch" the weight is causing is not symetrical in velocity and kinetic energy. This non-symetry will require energy input because there is less total suspension at 6:30, than 5:30 due to the different magnetic attractions.


In both experiments the energy is conserved.


Vidar
Title: Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
Post by: Light on January 09, 2012, 07:35:48 PM
Quote from: Low-Q on January 08, 2012, 05:05:53 PM
In both experiments the energy is conserved.
i agree,
but first, there’s no need for V-shape track, any unclosed magnetic loop creates a magnetic “drag” between it’s ends,
second, to overcome a “sticky point” between ends needa get either fast switching polarity of stator’s magnet or move magnet out or move a stator out, they call it a commutation,
so since unbalanced (in milkovich way) rotor has some movements (in steady mode of rotation) it’s possible to find the spot where the ends of the loop can be placed against stator's magnet for gravity commutation;
so, in your animation it’s already done â€" unbalanced rotor has a trajectory where it could be seen a lower point of rotor, so this’s the spot  for stator’s magnet where the ends of the loop (any configuration) can be placed for commutation
cheers