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Title: Dr Joe Champion selling LENC machines; turns Silver in Gold
Post by: broli on January 07, 2012, 05:34:36 PM
This seems to have been going for a few weeks now but I just noticed this that he's selling a machine that supposedly gold plates silver, without using any gold obviously. The subject has been on this forum but this news is very recent. I don't know if there's anyone willing to take the risque but if it's true this is HUGE...

http://producepreciousmetals.com/products/Champion-Emerald--Gold-Machine.html (http://producepreciousmetals.com/products/Champion-Emerald--Gold-Machine.html)
http://drjoechampion.com/2011%20Notes.htm (http://drjoechampion.com/2011%20Notes.htm)
http://drjoechampion.com (http://drjoechampion.com)

QuoteDecember 7, 2011 This is an important day for the USA and science.  Today two major events occurred that will rock the world of science.  Low Energy Nuclear Chemistry home reactors were shipped to two major academicians.  The first system went to Mr. Whitehead ,Vice President of Dixie College in Saint George Utah.   The second system went to Dr. Cathy Buckley in New Bury Park CA.  Each group are looking at different aspects of the Champion Gold Machine.  The college is looking at the true academic potential.  Dr. Buckley is looking at the full home financial gain by making gold at home and having it in a form that translates into cash in her bank account. My associate Mr. Maag is busy taking orders to ship the Ruby and Emerald machines to all parts of the world.

The kit you now have will create the gold to be formed on the surface of silver by a safe low energy nuclear chemistry.  This kit can be used as a teaching and education tool.  The reason gold is formed on the surface is the   contact between the surface of the silver and the solution causes two atoms of silver to form one atom of gold.  Temperature is automatically controlled in your gold reactor and is safe at the exact temperature required. Follow the instructions and do not go inside the reactor and attempt to make changes to the electronics.

To produce the maximum gold you only need to use the smallest silver pieces available to you to increase the surface area of the silver.

Your low energy nuclear reactor kit is the first kit ever to act as a training tool and production tool for you to own your own gold. It is like watching precious metals form before your eyes.  You see real gold form just like it did on planet earth.  This is not related to the chemistry we all were taught in school this is a new chemistry that we and our children will be taught in school starting this century.  When you mix the chemicals together it looks like you are cooking a concoction like your mother would make.  However it is exciting.  In normal chemistry we combine elements together and make compounds.  This causes select elements to compound tighter and make new elements.  This is the new chemistry.

The most common question asked is why this has not been discovered before and the answer is simple.  One hundred years ago we did not know how to manipulate atoms to form new atoms.  There are archives of history about alchemists who said they could make gold but they did not understand why and did not have a repeatable process.  We have brought this to your home.   For those in the United States it is Akin to a Gilbert Home Chemistry set or reading scientific America.



I will give you a brief explanation of what your Champion Gold Machine does.  It causes a slow and controlled nuclear reaction between two silver atoms causing one gold atom to be formed in its place.  This happens continuously on the surface of the silver you place in your Gold machine.  The reason your gold machine is important is the temperature.  The temperature is important for if you change or modify it you will make other atoms instead of gold.  The Champion Gold Machine will convert the surface of the silver you place in the reaction to beautiful gold.

Place the contents of one ounce of yeast into 500ml of water and add up to two ounces of finely divided Silver and turn your gold pot on the low setting.  The electronics in your gold pot have been modified to maintain the correct temperature to start the low energy nuclear reaction.  Just wait and in two days you will start to see the silver turning gold on the surface.

This is not a coating of gold looking material this is the silver converting into gold by your home nuclear reactor.

It is fun safe and the start of owning your own gold production at home.

This week you will see many movies on UTube of this new wonderful reaction. 

It is not a complex operation.  Follow the simple instructions and you will see your own nuclear reactor in operation.

You can use a plastic spoon or ladle to stir you silver one the bottom of the pot.  This allows the nucler compounds in the solution total access to the silver surface.

I hope you have wonderful success with your machine.  Remember Gold is Gold.  This is not imitation or gold color material.

Refining of this gold is possible by experienced people. Refining materials that allow for the separation and collection of gold is available from IShore International.  If you attempt your own refining please follow safe procedures for yourself and the environment.   One of the most common questions is how much gold can I make.  It is up to you by the size of the silver powder or shot you use in your home low energy nuclear reactor. 

Edit: I found the email of the  Mr. Whitehead person and asked him whether he received the machine and if it works as claimed. This was his reply:

QuoteBroil,
Yes Dr. Champion has donated his Gold Machine to DSC and it is in my office. We have not yet used it.

George F. Whitehead
Title: Re: Dr Joe Champion selling LENC machines; turns Silver in Gold
Post by: aaron5120 on January 08, 2012, 01:00:20 PM
Beware, fellow researchers! This is a scam. I did a little bit due diligence about this "Dr.", and his websites do not come up with anything registered in the Internet Archive for the past three years. The information of his blog is bogus.
Here is a link about the history of this Con Man:
http://www.houstonpress.com/content/printVersion/216079
If you are greedy, this scam will get you caught easily, as it did with a lot of victims. Look them up in Google's, and you will find out. :o

Title: Re: Dr Joe Champion selling LENC machines; turns Silver in Gold
Post by: broli on January 08, 2012, 01:10:32 PM
Yes the possibility exists but seems a bit unlikely given the situation. Among all things why would he chose such a controversial and dogmatic subject in order to scam people, why would he be so open about it as to encourage law enforcement to easily round him up, why would he sell his "revolutionary" machine at such a low price point that could risk to expose him as a fraud and completely defame him in a single day on the Internet.

Good con artists don't work like that, either they hit big one time and vanish or do many small under the radar jobs to prevent getting caught. I'm on the fence, because I know the science is real but I would like to see his machine proven as well.
Title: Re: Dr Joe Champion selling LENC machines; turns Silver in Gold
Post by: ramset on January 08, 2012, 01:34:50 PM
Broli
You know I build and sell [in the past] Gold brush plating machine.
I have to say it sounds just like what my machine does except I use a gold solution?


I could ship you enuff solution to plate a greyhound buss this way at a ridiculously low cost to myself!! [a few Bucs]
It is however easy to test if he's shipping Gold salts in minuscule Solutions!


Get a US Quarter  A double A battery Some alligator clips and his magic juice....


Just take a double A battery and make the Coin the negative and clip the positive to a Q Tip dip it in his solution and rub it on the coin.
If You get color you have standard electrolysis .


Many other ways and solutions that will do this also..........


BTW
I'm sending you a PM
THX
Chet
Title: Re: Dr Joe Champion selling LENC machines; turns Silver in Gold
Post by: broli on January 08, 2012, 01:38:34 PM
Chet this machine supposedly turns silver into gold. It does it WITHOUT the need of any gold solution or else it would indeed be conventional electroplating.

IF this is a scam that would be the best way to do it actually. The machine might have a hidden gold solution somewhere inside of it which electroplates the silver making it looks like silver transmutated. But again this is easily verified by opening and inspecting the machine.

Quote from: ramset on January 08, 2012, 01:34:50 PM
Broli
You know I build and sell [in the past] Gold brush plating machine.
I have to say it sounds just like what my machine does except I use a gold solution?


I could ship you enuff solution to plate a greyhound buss this way at a ridiculously low cost to myself!! [a few Bucs]
It is however easy to test if he's shipping Gold salts in minuscule Solutions!


Get a US Quarter  A double A battery Some alligator clips and his magic juice....


Just take a double A battery and make the Coin the negative and clip the positive to a Q Tip dip it in his solution and rub it on the coin.
If You get color you have standard electrolysis .


Many other ways and solutions that will do this also..........


BTW
I'm sending you a PM
THX
Chet
Title: Re: Dr Joe Champion selling LENC machines; turns Silver in Gold
Post by: rado on July 22, 2013, 10:55:56 PM
Quote from: broli on January 08, 2012, 01:10:32 PM
Yes the possibility exists but seems a bit unlikely given the situation. Among all things why would he chose such a controversial and dogmatic subject in order to scam people, why would he be so open about it as to encourage law enforcement to easily round him up, why would he sell his "revolutionary" machine at such a low price point that could risk to expose him as a fraud and completely defame him in a single day on the Internet.

Good con artists don't work like that, either they hit big one time and vanish or do many small under the radar jobs to prevent getting caught. I'm on the fence, because I know the science is real but I would like to see his machine proven as well.

I have Champion's Alchemy book and it certainly doesn't seem like a scam to me. If he's right he's up against a lot of people with different economical intererests who'd rather see him and his methods dead, so he might very well be the victim of a smear campaign.

And the yeast thing sounds interesting since Kervran among others used microorganisms and fungi in his low energy transmutation experiments, apparently with great succes. 

Title: Re: Dr Joe Champion selling LENC machines; turns Silver in Gold
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on July 22, 2013, 11:25:58 PM
Quote from: broli on January 08, 2012, 01:38:34 PM
Chet this machine supposedly turns silver into gold. It does it WITHOUT the need of any gold solution or else it would indeed be conventional electroplating.

IF this is a scam that would be the best way to do it actually. The machine might have a hidden gold solution somewhere inside of it which electroplates the silver making it looks like silver transmutated. But again this is easily verified by opening and inspecting the machine.
i am fluent in isotopes transition and i say this is a scam.
Title: Re: Dr Joe Champion selling LENC machines; turns Silver in Gold
Post by: profitis on July 23, 2013, 07:04:04 PM
@cuttingedge.. what about the tungsten/gold transmute? scam?
Title: Re: Dr Joe Champion selling LENC machines; turns Silver in Gold
Post by: Staffman on July 23, 2013, 09:03:48 PM
I looked into this years ago, but for other reasons (family issues) I was not able to try his system. Back when Joe's home got trashed he wanted people to mirror his site, I found an excel spreadsheet that showed the temperatures needed to achieve what he called phonon resonance. The spread sheet was really effed up, and needed fixing, probably due to converting to new format. I can look the spread sheet up if anyone wants it (on one of my other PC's). There was a lot of missing information, for which I had to search through several editions of chemistry handbooks to find. From what I remember on the original site (I mirrored again later which destroyed much of that info - not the xls file) magnetic fields screwed everything up. If I remember correctly, if you do not disturb the chamber, you need the temperature to be around 107F for a week or longer to see anything happen... that's for silver to gold. The spreadsheet was for the entire periodic table, however the spread sheet is still missing info for the gases as I the data I was looking for was not applicable for that.


I should add that I could not find the needed info for other elements as well, specifically ones that would convert to nuclear elements... It wasn't available in ANY of the chem books that I could find, none of them. And for silver to gold, it seemed that the more surface area the better.
Title: Re: Dr Joe Champion selling LENC machines; turns Silver in Gold
Post by: Staffman on July 24, 2013, 09:44:47 AM
I found the file.... It takes some getting used to. There are a few tabs, the conversion calculator tab is the one that, IMHO, is the most important, however there are a few others if you understand this stuff. I really hate chemistry. When you put in numbers for 'select source' you typically just put in the atomic number, until you get to silver then you have to add or subtract one(i forget). This is because Joe was calculating for silver to gold, and because silver has two main isotopes (107/109) he put them at the end of the look up table. So for silver(47 - isotope 107) you have enter 111. I did a lot of work fixing this spread sheet, so take it with a grain of salt. :)  (Just to add I am NOT the originator of the file... Joe is. I got it after he wanted folks to mirror his site. The file was fubar'd I only fixed it.)


I did add a few more columns, for my own clarity, and at the moment I believe the original xls file may have been destroyed on my old WinXP machine. So here ya go.  :)