Does anyone remember Zeropoint132 and his Alien Technology Self running no bearing Bedini style motor? The sphere on the convex glass mirror. The 4000 turn bifi, 26 ga and 30 ga with read and a couple diodes, led and a 10uf cap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwBtBEaZ7B4&feature=plcp&context=C49769bfVDvjVQa1PpcFNZCEFI5qbjh1wxIzfQnKhfqu73FNj-COg%3D
Z was told not asked to take down the vids with the schematics, and were replaced by just 1 vid, no schematic.
Ive had a few people ask about that since aug 2009.
It was a thread here. Cant find a trace of it. I pm'ed Wilby on this back then, and I cannot access my 1st page of messages, of which would have included that pm. 9 pages of messages and the 1st is not accessible. It would contain messages in that time frame around Aug 2009, when the vid above was posted.
Nothing to be found in search. Its all gone. It was a topic here. Wilby was the one that got a copy of the schematic before they made Z take it down at YT and posted it on the thread.
At Fizzx.org, No trace of it there either. I was involved with Axle in his replication on that. All gone.
I still talk to Z. Last year he had a stroke. He doesnt have the desire for this stuff anymore, and mostly sends me jokes and funny pics anymore.
Before the stroke, he was doing experiments on bifi, trifi and well, 4fii. And posted vids showing the differences. Then stroke.
Can I see a show of hands that believe it is all a coincidence?
Call me paranoid, then take a hike. ;]
Magluvin
Finally did a Yahoo search
This is from Energetic with the schematics
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q171/frank260332/Selfrunningmagmotor.jpg
And a reference to Z and a posting of the drawing again, but the part about the replication I cannot find.
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q171/frank260332/Selfrunningmagmotor.jpg
And found 2 of my more recent posts just posting of his motor, but nothing from back then. I also checked to see how far back other post are here and many are before that date, so its not like it is old stuff that is cut because of age.
And Fizzx hasnt had any activity in a long time. I heard that OC died. So I dont think anyone is maintaining the site.
Mags
Maybe he can send you all his stuff and notes? Then you could reproduce it and see what happens??
Hmm, did a copy link location at energetic and only got the pix. here is the page
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4026-one-magnet-no-bearing-bedini-motor-21.html
This one shows both schematics. ;]
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/9481-small-mag-motor-demo.html
Mags
Quote from: Mark69 on March 11, 2012, 10:21:26 PM
Maybe he can send you all his stuff and notes? Then you could reproduce it and see what happens??
Z and I had conversed a lot, but he would always say that he could not talk about those circuits. Kinda like Romero. :o
Mags
I had never built the circuit. I had issues with the differences in the 2 schematics and decided to wait and see if someone else tried it.
But Now, I have some interest, wondering what is going on since then. It seems more worthy of investigation now, if there was any hanky panky going on with killing threads and missing pm pages of the time this was going on. :o
The schem with the magnet shown, the 2 coils are in parallel with a diode on 1 of the leads from coil to coil. The other schem, blue and red coils, the coils are in series with the diode at the coil to coil connection.
So once built, each way is easy to configure.
I dont remember nor can I access what Axle tried in his replication.
I also had thought issues about what happens while the mag is in motion.
There are 2 poles, N and S. When we think about the diode, each pole pass will give a different operation in the circuit. But the reed, would it not activate during each pole pass? So what is happening with a N pass and a reed closure, and a S pass with reed closure. That diode on the coils is going to alter what is going on with one pole pass to the next. So it is possible that the reed closes for one pole pass and really isnt doing anything, and is on the other. So it made me wonder if a rotor with all N or S might be more advantageous. Dunno. Just trying to understand it.
Or did the bifi coils capacitance(4000 turns) might be charging on one pole pass, and delivering drive with the other pole pass.
Mags
Hey Mags,
Thanks for creating this topic. Lets hope ZP or others can shed some light on the schematic and the properties in which it works.
-L.
Quote from: leftcliq on March 12, 2012, 01:32:22 AM
Hey Mags,
Thanks for creating this topic. Lets hope ZP or others can shed some light on the schematic and the properties in which it works.
-L.
Hey Lefty
Its been since 2009, Z aint talkin. Since the stroke, its just been casual talk, as he seems to be done with all this stuff.
But as I see it, there really isnt that much to invest in trying it. I have the 26ga, just need to get some 30ga. and the mag. It was an N42 1 in. dia if I remember correctly. I know it wasnt an N52 as we had discussed this back at Fizzx. Some stuff I remember clearly from back then. I think the bobbin was 3 in. length. maybe Energetic has some of those details.
I gota get to sleep here soon. Spring forward has me in its clutches. ;]
Also, the core was just iron finishing nails not even packed tight but loose and closed it off with a rubber cap at the ends of the bobbins core openings. One of his early vids had shown this.
Mags
One more thing, Z said that he only went off of the schematics and lots of fine tuning of the coil, mag and reed position. the vid shows those approximations. ;]
If I remember more, I will post it.
mags
I was banned from OUR tonight. Got an email stating the reasons.
But MileHigh is communicating to me from there as he made a thread on my topic here. I wont post it here in respect for the person that banned me for doing so yesterday. So if interested, those that want to read the other half of my postings in reference to the thread at our, can go there and do so, when I reply here to MH on this, to get the whole story ;] I guess MH is banned here.
MH, Z and I are friends. We didnt become really good friends till some time after the incident he claimed happened. From there forward I was never really sure if it worked. But always thought of it. Over the past 2 years if I honestly felt him to be a liar or cheat of any kind, I would not state the friendship as I do. ;)
Of what we did discuss of it, I believe he didnt really know how exactly it worked. I will admit that, even though it is good for your case against me. ;) Because that is who I am.
Yet you are, and can only speculate a battery was involved, so it holds no water. Yet. Or really ever till you show proof of it. Can you?
One of those is his redraw and explanation and the other is what he found.
As I remember it, the one with the mag shown is the one that got him in the problem he got stuck in. He later did the redraw as people were asking a lot of questions and he thought that the redraw gave a better idea of how the coils should be and adding color to distinguish which was which, before the take down.
But just like anything else in this business we are in, the only way to know is to do it. A sim will not tell us anything here. It has to be made. And the difficulty level is not a mile high really. ;] So trying is not a huge waste for most. Compare it to Romeros motor, or Bruce's miles of wire tpu. This one is simple really
He had no real specs as to the core, spindle size and such. And maybe he got lucky, ya know. maybe not, just as you say. I cannot deny that there is a possibility of faking it. But investigating is what we should be all about and not just give and accept speculation till all has been done to prove it one way or another.
I had asked him periodically about the details, but he did not tell one way or the other. At the time of the "alleged" take down notice, he was scared. He said he had never been through anything like that before and didnt want it again. Eventually I respected that. Harvey Had talked with him also back then of this. Maybe he can shed some light on it also.
What has me thinking more positively on it is the strange disappearance of my 1st page of pm's here at OU that I cannot access (Read about that in above posts). When I click the "1" for the first page, it just brings me back to the last. All other pages are retrievable. And page 1 is where it would be on that subject. Gone. The whole page.
And the thread here for it is gone. The posts at Fizzx with Axles replication are gone.
And on top of that, Z said he was told not asked to remove the vids with the schematics. Harvey should remember this stuff also, hopefully.
Its just a big hunch MH, Ill admit.
Z wasnt really good with electronics he admitted. He just experimented with simple stuff. He followed the schematic for the coil 1 diode, 1 reed, 1 cap and 1 led. He had some ideas as to how he thought it worked, and we had argued some times on these things. But we remained good friend always. I was just in PM earlier stating the same things before I had looked for the , what are now missing, threads and PMs.
I had even argued the same points as you back then about the differences between the 2 different drawings. I dont really care for either explanations. Too vague and some nonsense. But we wont know till it is built for sure. You should know this to be fact.
We will have to see what comes of it. Just giving up on speculation is not enough to deter me. Otherwise, then we should just shut all this down M. Our, Ou, energetic, just shut the doors. Otherwise, these are the kind of things that these forums are here for. Over Unity "Research" should give a hint to that. ;] Reasearch would never get us anywhere if we just talked about it. Right? ;]
So follow if you wish. I have no problems with that. ;]
Mags
This is one of the things that Z sent me the other day. We dont really discuss tech much since the stroke. Where is the cat. ;]
Hey Mags, Sorry to hear about all that. I'll share a few opinions on some of that. I think you should ask Stefen about the missing pages here. It's not the first time things have gone missing and the forum database here seems a bit flaky at times. I do feel it would be unusual for anyone to get threatened over a little setup like he had and especially if he didn't really know how it worked. Although I suppose if the principle behind it could have lead to much bigger things easily then those PTB might have wanted to eliminate any possibility. I personally had dismissed it as fake and I usually tend to think most things I see at first are real. Maybe my intuition was wrong but that's how it felt. If it was fake then taking the route of saying you were threatened takes away all the weight of showing any more about it or doing more demo's. Do you know how old zero is? Just curious as looking at his hands in the pic lead me to think he is not that old and strokes usually don't happen to most people younger than 50's or so unless they are really on a hardcore MacFries diet.
Can't imagine you getting banned anywhere but hey it was full moon the last couple days PLUS it was and still is big time Solar Flares hitting the planet here. I know both of those can get people agitated. I think they said the first one hitting around the 9th was the biggest in about 5 years - an X-5 and then a couple more straight at Earth the 10th and 11th. When the magnetic field gets hammered it does some effect people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rySqz7Hgpkk
the schematic is in the video clip. (no mib have contacted me to take it down. i wish they would ;) they haven't come and taken my SEC that runs without batteries either...)
sorry to hear they banned you. i'm not really surprised. if you don't believe in what the 'axis' powers believe... well, you know... talk about the hoax of the tpu all you want, but not bedini... ::)
Don't waste your pity. He got what he asked for.
Notice he didn't tell you why he got banned? It's because he said and did something stupid and unforgivable at OUR:
QuoteAnd this is your opinion on free energy? So this site is just a mockery of FE?
Actually I suspected this a while ago. Now I know.
Mags
He took something I said out of context and obviously didn't understand what was said. Then he posted this here at OU in an effort to make OUR look as though we do not support FE research. Once I corrected him, he had nothing to say, so I must assume he realized his error.
This is what he took out of context and posted:
QuoteWhat does "suckered into the free energy industry" mean to you?
My reply:
QuoteTo be convinced or lured in by false, wishful, or money-making pretenses.
So there you have the full story. Magluvin had no desire to be at OUR, except to undermine OUR integrity. And he claims that we or I do not support FE research. He is flat out WRONG!
Quote from: poynt99 on March 12, 2012, 02:38:44 PM
Don't waste your pity.
don't sweat it poynt...
i waste all sorts of pity on you, milehigh and several others... i can spare some for mags, you won't get neglected. ;)
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on March 12, 2012, 03:05:51 PM
don't sweat it poynt...
i waste all sorts of pity on you, milehigh and several others... i can spare some for mags, you won't get neglected. ;)
Thanks bud, nice to know you still care. :-*
I've always got some pity set aside for you and folks like Magluvin too ;) (not for mags this time though >:( ).
Quote from: poynt99 on March 12, 2012, 02:38:44 PM
Don't waste your pity. He got what he asked for.
Notice he didn't tell you why he got banned? It's because he said and did something stupid and unforgivable at OUR:
He took something I said out of context and obviously didn't understand what was said. Then he posted this here at OU in an effort to make OUR look as though we do not support FE research. Once I corrected him, he had nothing to say, so I must assume he realized his error.
This is what he took out of context and posted:
My reply:
So there you have the full story. Magluvin had no desire to be at OUR, except to undermine OUR integrity. And he claims that we or I do not support FE research. He is flat out WRONG!
ok, here we go....
Listen Poynt, how about this. Lets say I go out, and get you some Whah burgers and some frenchcries. Ill even get you a Whinekin to wash it down with.
Ooo, do I detect a bit of steam from your ears. spit
First off, I have been in contact today with the person that sent me my notification and reason for the ban. I am in full compliance to help him correct the situation that the banning pertains to. And it has nothing to do with you. :P
I think you are a turd, a moron, a 3 year old little brat, that has made it his mission to beat down on an old lady, year after year. That is what you are and what you do.
The person that sent my ban notice, I have full respect for, and have had, including quite a few others at OUR. And you think I have an agenda with OUR as a whole? Welp, wrong again bucko. BAAAHAHAHAHAHAA thpppp spittle.
For someone that has his own site dedicated to Ou, your professionalism is "pity"ful.
I have never seen the others at our, other than MH that I know of, stoop to the levels that you do in respect to Rose and a few others. Theres your pity
I have seen your devious, pretending to befriend(or pretend to be nice), to Rose, just to try and sucker her into your trap. LOL you might have to dump a few more threads over there, for fear that I may prove my poynt. Posts here at OU and there at OUR, time stamped and all. You know exactly what Im talking about you low down dirty snake. You cant play fair. You have to be down and dirty to accomplish "your agenda" with Rose. You are obsessed. What did she do to deserve this? Dang, she must have super glued your balls to you nose. Or is it worse than that? spit
And as for the thread that was deleted because of my posting of parts of it here in jpg form, not just because of my doings, but because it could get you into trouble because the thread EXISTED. Why do you have threads like that? Very very irresponsible of you to run your show in such a manner. It wasnt because of my doings. you act as if the thread was invisible before me. I seen it, I read it. The great invincible POYNT. spit You are a fool.
You need Chef Gordon Ramsey to come over there and set you straight and show you that you are in denial of these tragic mistakes and atrocities.
I have put my best into the PM to Stefan to remove those posts of mine, showing regret that I did so, unknowingly of the others that it might have caused problems for.
I dont need to be at OUR. I have a place right here. Its the place to be. ;) And you are here more than me. Maybe you should work on keeping you own place clean.
Oh, but there are no old ladies to beat on at your place. She isnt allowed there. Thats odd. She cant come there, but you spend so much time with her here. Can you explain that? In the greatest detail possible please, as you request from others. spit
Why cant she be at your place there Poynt? hmmm? Something to hide? Hmmm?
spit
You are a disgrace to your site. that is why you have troubles falling your way over there. You did that to yourself, not me. But, as Ron White would say, ya cant fix stupid. And stupid is what you have done. Stupid. spit.
What a "pity" ;)
Now go away little boy. You bodda me. ;)
magfrickinluvin spit
LOL,
You got yourself worked into a tizzy I see. :o Good golly can-do-no-harm Magluvin, what is wrong with you?
You got banned for badmouthing OUR
the way you did, just as I explained. Peter acted because I asked him to. Yeah it was my idea, and he agreed after seeing how you tried to undermine the integrity of OUR.
How dare you accuse OUR of making a mockery of the FE community? Read your own posts (and Rosemary's for that matter); there you will see someone making a mockery of the FE community. ::)
Now go take your pill and settle down before you blow a LED and get yourself banned from here too. ;D
Quote from: Magluvin on March 12, 2012, 06:40:39 PM
ok, here we go....
Listen Poynt, how about this. Lets say I go out, and get you some Whah burgers and some frenchcries. Ill even get you a Whinekin to wash it down with.
Ooo, do I detect a bit of steam from your ears. spit
First off, I have been in contact today with the person that sent me my notification and reason for the ban. I am in full compliance to help him correct the situation that the banning pertains to. And it has nothing to do with you. :P
I think you are a turd, a moron, a 3 year old little brat, that has made it his mission to beat down on an old lady, year after year. That is what you are and what you do.
The person that sent my ban notice, I have full respect for, and have had, including quite a few others at OUR. And you think I have an agenda with OUR as a whole? Welp, wrong again bucko. BAAAHAHAHAHAHAA thpppp spittle.
For someone that has his own site dedicated to Ou, your professionalism is "pity"ful.
I have never seen the others at our, other than MH that I know of, stoop to the levels that you do in respect to Rose and a few others. Theres your pity
I have seen your devious, pretending to befriend(or pretend to be nice), to Rose, just to try and sucker her into your trap. LOL you might have to dump a few more threads over there, for fear that I may prove my poynt. Posts here at OU and there at OUR, time stamped and all. You know exactly what Im talking about you low down dirty snake. You cant play fair. You have to be down and dirty to accomplish "your agenda" with Rose. You are obsessed. What did she do to deserve this? Dang, she must have super glued your balls to you nose. Or is it worse than that? spit
And as for the thread that was deleted because of my posting of parts of it here in jpg form, not just because of my doings, but because it could get you into trouble because the thread EXISTED. Why do you have threads like that? Very very irresponsible of you to run your show in such a manner. It wasnt because of my doings. you act as if the thread was invisible before me. I seen it, I read it. The great invincible POYNT. spit You are a fool.
You need Chef Gordon Ramsey to come over there and set you straight and show you that you are in denial of these tragic mistakes and atrocities.
I have put my best into the PM to Stefan to remove those posts of mine, showing regret that I did so, unknowingly of the others that it might have caused problems for.
I dont need to be at OUR. I have a place right here. Its the place to be. ;) And you are here more than me. Maybe you should work on keeping you own place clean.
Oh, but there are no old ladies to beat on at your place. She isnt allowed there. Thats odd. She cant come there, but you spend so much time with her here. Can you explain that? In the greatest detail possible please, as you request from others. spit
Why cant she be at your place there Poynt? hmmm? Something to hide? Hmmm?
spit
You are a disgrace to your site. that is why you have troubles falling your way over there. You did that to yourself, not me. But, as Ron White would say, ya cant fix stupid. And stupid is what you have done. Stupid. spit.
What a "pity" ;)
Now go away little boy. You bodda me. ;)
magfrickinluvin spit
Quote from: poynt99 on March 12, 2012, 07:35:17 PM
LOL,
You got yourself worked into a tizzy I see. :o Good golly can-do-no-harm Magluvin, what is wrong with you?
You got banned for badmouthing OUR the way you did, just as I explained. Peter acted because I asked him to. Yeah it was my idea, and he agreed after seeing how you tried to undermine the integrity of OUR.
How dare you accuse OUR of making a mockery of the FE community? Read your own posts; there you will see someone making a mockery of the FE community. ::)
Now go take your pill and settle down before you blow a LED. ;D
Lol Tizzy? That was just an appetizer, if you want to play this game. ;)
Now for those that have seen my post in that jpg, I did not accuse, I questioned. To question is a search for truth, not an accusation. You always say Rose is twisting things. You silly little man. Hey, Ron White was right on that one.
Deeper and deeper. :o How does it feel Mr Poynt? Hmmm? Nice feeling huh?
Lol, you will figure another twist. your good at it.
I just have to copy this page when Im done writing it... Busted. That was too easy. Try again?
Banned. That is all you got.. WOW. Do you honestly think that I would not expect as much and not give a hoot?
Tell me kind sir, Just what am I missing out on really that is so precious to me? In great detail please, and show references, and throw in a few formula to prove your case. lol Sound remotely familiar anyone? Boss? How about a paycheck for all you demand.
As far as I knew, that site was just yours. Its not like it is posted around town like Ron Paul signs that had told me otherwise.
As for my emails to and from Peter, out of respect for him, I wont say all that was said. If I did, it could be worse for OUR than last night. So do you really want to throw that twist on it just to make yourself look like the angel you want all to perceive? Stay away from that at yours and Peters discretion. ;) Your call.
You are NOT presenting all the fact in your posts, just the bits you favor.
What is wrong with me? I like Rose. We talk. You are not her friend. And you are not her boss, with all your demands and cheap belittling like "To all of the 3 readers of this thread.." And you want respect? You might have a hard time buying respect with that childish attitude. You deny this? ;)
Do you honestly believe that people cant figure out what just that statement resembles?
60 some pages, 52800 + views at this time? How do you account for such dribble? Is it comedy? Show me one smiling face. lol Since I posted those "real" stats yesterday, boom, no more of that silliness. Now I have seen, "to all readers of this thread" What, its too embarrassing to use that one now? Hmmm? It wasnt embarrassing before was it?
Just a whole lotta fun heh? yea. fun. For who? Your audience? Your Huge audience here at OU.com? yep
Lol, Rose may be a bit more crafty than you realize. She knows you think your the boss. lol You really think she doesnt answer your questions the way you demand just to twist? I laugh when I see it. Its fun fun fun. ;)
Is that why you still pester her? You havt won yet? How long will it take to get the job done boss? Your supposedly at the top of your game boss.
And yes. I am just a little tiny LED man. Spanking you like a real boss.
Feels good dont it poynt?
Ok your turn. Ive got till about 2 am. ;)
Mags
mags... don't feed the troll. ;)
Save your pathetic whining for someone that cares what you have to say.
Chau dude.
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on March 12, 2012, 09:05:32 PM
mags... don't feed the troll. ;)
Hey Wilby
Well he came here. I was going to talk about this thread. :o honestly, after talking to peter, I was going to drop it all and get down to business. But....
Hey, I forgot that you had that vid. It has been a while.
I was thinking today. Have you looked at all to see if the thread was still here?
I remember I had sent you a pm back then when you posted the vid or the circuit, but you had not been around for a while and I got worried. Remember? You said you were gone fishing or something.
That PM would have been in my inbox. Page 1 Its now page 9 when I click it. lol
When I did a yahoo search, it should have shown the thread here and at fizzx.
I did get 1 post at fizzx that had the schem, but was in a different thread and that was it.
Its just weird.
Mags
Chau dude
Mags
Quote from: Magluvin on March 12, 2012, 09:18:09 PM
Hey Wilby
Well he came here. I was going to talk about this thread. :o honestly, after talking to peter, I was going to drop it all and get down to business. But....
Hey, I forgot that you had that vid. It has been a while.
I was thinking today. Have you looked at all to see if the thread was still here?
I remember I had sent you a pm back then when you posted the vid or the circuit, but you had not been around for a while and I got worried. Remember? You said you were gone fishing or something.
That PM would have been in my inbox. Page 1 Its now page 9 when I click it. lol
When I did a yahoo search, it should have shown the thread here and at fizzx.
I did get 1 post at fizzx that had the schem, but was in a different thread and that was it.
Its just weird.
Mags
i know he did. i hear ya, but that's the game they play... i notice his last response to you was the usual ad hominem. don't let them sucker you in and drag you down. poynt being worried about you harming the"integrity" of our just shows he doesn't understand the word integrity or how it applies.
you cannot affect the integrity of our... only its operators can. and when they ban you yet yo-yo back and forth with banning milehigh and then rescinding... well, that's not exactly integrity.
i almost forgot i had it too. had you not had that youtube analytics issue earlier i probably wouldn't even remembered it was on my channel. i do remember your worry, i think i said something like the men in brown came and got me to go hunting/fishing... :)
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p.s. poynt, mags.... it's ciao. but i'm glad hooked on phonics worked for you guys! ;)
Ok, Wilby found the thread today. I went and did a new search today andlike 6 posts came up, but they didnt yesterday. Leftcliq also could not find it in search yesterday. maybe the site was a whacky yesterday at the time.
If Wilby didnt find that and show me, I might not have done a second search, just to see for my self. Nuts
Ok, now I might call it, "this might breeze your mind" lol
My first (1) page of pm's is still sending me to page 9 when I click on the 1. Still a bit breezy. lol
Im going to build it anyway.
ordering the mag this week and the 30awg, as I have the 26awg.
Im beat. Was up till 5am last night with the apt next to me banging doors all night.
before I go to sleep, im going to run a coil calculator to approximate the size of the spindle and have it prepared for winding.
mags is pooped ;]
Ciao lol I just got that. man I am tired.
I had read it, without noticing the spelling change, as you saying goodbye to Poynt and I lol
Now thats funny. ;]
Ciao
Magciao
The link to the thread here...
http://www.overunity.com/7988/has-overunity-been-achieved-check-this-link/
This post was made with 1 eye held open with all my strength using my free hand.
Magsleeps
In response to MH at our. This is how we communicate. ;] Its good though. This way 2 venues can pay attn. ;] I guess. ::)
Mh
That is really suggestive of you to say once it is all built, to put a battery in the circuit.
MAGLUVIN CLOSE YOUR EYES. NOW COUNT BACKWARDS FROM 100 MAGLUVIN.
NOW IMAGINE THE SOUND OF A COOL EVENING BREEZE AND THE WARM SUN SLOWLY SINKING BELOW THE HORIZON........ 99 98 97.....
Nope, no batteries will be used in these experiments MH. How about you build it and stick a battery..... ;) You wont use your time even to prove your point. I am not at your bidding. :P but thanks for giving your best effort here. ;) 3 more years from now you will be saying the same things and doing nothing still.
I read a bit of the thread last night, with my one eye open. I saw someone there complaining that you never build anything. How long has it been now? Hmmm?
I rest my case. :-*
Now on the subject at hand, on the last page of that thread
http://www.overunity.com/7988/has-overunity-been-achieved-check-this-link/msg199279/#msg199279
Magnetman states that the LED could not light in this configuration. Read what he says.
I suppose maybe he had not worked with pulse motors and gotten spikes that I have seen LEDs lit with many times. Just sayin. Z had told me that the led isnt even necessary for the circuit to work. It is just an indicator of when the reed is activating. It is used to help tune the device as to reed position.
It is possible that if the reed is just on the far edge of the magnetic field from the magnet. as in, just close enough, that only one pole is activating the reed. So this would solve my issue with the differences between what the N and S poles separate functions are, being that diode would make each a different action in the circuit.
So it is possible that only 1 pole is functioning during the charge cycle.
I have had this where one pole seems weaker at activating the reed. OR, it could be possible the reed could be lightly magnetized, and causing it to be magnetically biased. And to simplify the idea and probably ease tuning, the reed can be biased with a tiny mag, as I have shown in my vids, so the reed wont activate with one pole, but will with the other.
Just thinking about it now, after all this time, more ideas are flowing as to the workings. I have more experience with bifi coils than I did at the time also, so that will help.
What if Z was getting lenzless effects as Marius on Romeros motor?
What if the reed shorts 1 coil while the mag pole is making a pass at the coil?
What if, being the coil has soo many turns, and bifi at that, that the speed up effect gets going at a lower rpm than what Romero had shown?
Lots to do.
There is nothing wrong with making a connection between Zs motor and Romeros in the sense of how things work, and getting the same results.
But there is something not quite right in the absolute assumption that there is a battery in the unit, and not a lick of proof of it. ;)
I am going to go over that thread tonight and pick apart what the posters were thinking at the time.
Meanwhile, til my parts come in, I have a bifi coil that I am going to construct the circuit around and put it to a rotor that I have that has very very little bearing friction and fiddle.
one more observation on the 2 drawings..
If the bifi wires are a different awg, then I would doubt that the schematic with the coils in series would be the correct one. They are in series, the blue and red coils with the diode at the coil to coil connection. It doesnt make much sense to do that as the smaller awg wire would be the determining factor as to how much current flows through both coils being in series. So my bet is on the other drawing with the parallel coils. Then we just have to try having the coils in different positions, to find out which one goes where as the drawing does not show it. ;]
Back to work
Mags
This is a quote from MH at our in his duplicate thread of this one....
"The challenge you should impose on yourself is to figure out exactly what's happening with that fake magic coil-motor setup. I was just articulating the same challenge to you that I would have given to myself. If your plan is to try all combinations of coil windings, all sorts of different diodes, and all sorts of combinations and permutations of the reed switch in search of a "magic combination that works," then you are just becoming a brute-force automaton jumping through hoops. That's not learning, that's just the status quo."
Wow. Are you serious MH? ok, lets start with the 1st sentence...
Well, are you saying that with the coil I am going to try tonight and the other parts I listed, to figure out how to put a battery to that after its built?
I have other coils also. I could make a motor as you suggest with any of them and make a motor turn. Why would I want to make a motor that runs on a battery, when I have done that many many many many times?
Even a couple orbos. (Actually I made the first solid state orbo also. Before Naudin, check the dates) And as motors, they work. So where is the challenge?
Hiding the battery? Finding out whats going on? (still on the first sentence in the mh quote above) What? Finding out where to hide the battery?
MAGLUVIN, USE THE BATTERY MAGLUVIN, ITS YOUR ONLY HOPE.
Ok Mobiwan Henobi
MH, cmon man. Im not looking to do magic trix, as you clearly suggest. You have seen what I can do. Do you seriously believe I could not fake a self running motor?
Im not here to make fakes, as you suggest. I used to work for a company called 077 Systems. Hidden safes, flip tags, strobes, motorization and controls, nail drop, smoke screen, triple flip tags, hidden radar detector systems, amplifier modification and repair, fiberglass, carbon fiber, kevlar, tune vented boxes, bandpass, series tuned band pass, dual chamber reflex(sweet if tuned right), multiple alternator systems, 40,000 watt systems, 28 12" subs, 7 Optima yellow tops, 500farads of caps, 1200watts RMS to a pair of 6 3/4 Pioneer Rev series components in a vehicle that has trophy's all over south Fl, including Datona Spring Break Nationals and Nopi Nationals at Atlanta speedway. Made it into the finals, but we couldnt go as the owner of the truck could not take off from work at that time. Deputy Sheriff.
I could go on. We had 600w rms to the Pioneers, and they sounded great. At the volumes we wanted, we could smell them. So we bridged 2 4ch amps, 2 bridged channels to the mids and 2 to the tweets. At 1200w, we were 3db louder and no smell. Mags dont play. ;) Unregulated power supply amps. There is no substitute. ;)
So, Where would you like me to hide your battery sir? ;) Your challenge is old M.
I can make a wheel for you also, if you cant find one. ::)
Ok, thats it for the first sentence. ;D
Second sentence...
Well if that is what you would do, then we both have different agendas. You know what I want to do, and now we know what you would do and want me to do. I dont really have an interest in what you would do there, as I have done quite a bit of that kind of stuff, many times. its not that difficult to be of any challenge to me. ;)
As for the last 2 sentences, the real long one and the last short one, they go hand in hand, and they speak for themselves. :o Ill let the people make up their own minds on that one. :-*
Mags
Im doing these conversations with MH for a point. Not because I think it relates to how to get this project working, but to show that some of the"experts" are not very helpful in working towards getting the device to work. As they are already set in their ways that it will not work(or is it another reason that I can think of? 8) ), even though they have not built this very setup. So dont put any water in that bucket M, because it doesnt hold any. ;)
Here is more from MH. It is just part of the post, as the rest is... well go look. I covered some of it already or doesnt matter(see near end of this post).
"Mags:
The reason you would want to make a motor that runs on a concealed battery would be as a lesson for others. Too many people look at clips like that and they believe that they are real. That's how the Perendev motor guy got rich and then got busted and is now in jail. To be honest though that is secondary to my main point. My main point was to use your scope and your wits and construct a timing diagram for the device. Show the voltages and currents induced into the circuit as the magnet rotates. That would not be easy for most people to do, it's a challenge. Then you explain the timing diagram and that explains how the device works. It also would clearly explain how it's impossible for the device to work unless you add a battery. The whole point is to demystify the device."
Ok, first off, How many people here would rather that I, Magluvin, build a fake Z motor, rather than build one that might work for real? First sentence. Easy one. ;)
Im for the real deal. Trix are for kids. ;)
Next
If too many people look at vids like that and believe they are real, do you not think that there are many other videos out there already doing just as you suggest that you could refer them to? Advertize those why dont you. I dont need to be reinventing the wheel, when there already is plenty to choose from. It doesnt get me any closer to my original goal, it delays it. 8)
I need to spend my time doing what this site here is intended for. True Dat.
I am not Prendev. Im not taking investments. Im not building fakes. Open source dude. You can google it. :o ;)
Now For Thee Maaain Event MHs main point.... Ill start at the bottom :o
"It also would clearly explain how it's impossible for the device to work unless you add a battery. The whole point is to demystify the device."
Can you see what Im trying to show here folks? If that is the belief, from an expert that never built the setup, then the rest of the main point doesnt really matter to me. Im dealing with someone that is deliberately, WITHOUT any proof, not a thread of it, guide all readers into the "There is no OU zone". Plain and simple.
Ok, to bring an end to this post, MH? Where would you put the battery in this circuit? Please provide each action, in order, throughout the cycle, and show all voltages and waveforms. Thank you. ;D
Ok M, here is the circuit. Rearranged to simplify. The led, at the far right is cathode upward, to electrically match the original, parallel coil diagram. have at it. :-*
Mags
Also MH, it would be beneficial to give reasons as to why the position you chose for the battery to be in. Just so my 3 readers, oops, 1800+ readers, may fully understand where you are coming from exactly. Thank You. AND MAY THE BATTERIES BE WITH YOU MOBIWAN.
MAGGY
2 more things M. If you can show when and how the LED flashes once you have your battery in place, as to provide clear details for the readers so that they may understand all aspects of how your fake works. Also, if you can determine which coil is 26ga and 30ga and reasons why, I think that it will help readers understand exactly how you have proven that the self runner cant work, because you are using a battery. :o 8)
I cant believe you even wrote that malarky. lol ;D
This really shouldnt take long right M? I mean, since you know why it doesnt work already, it should be a walk in the park for ya. I mean, since you understand the circuit so well. Its easy when you understand it. And thats why you know it doesnt work. And then I and the readers can forget about OU and get on with our lives due to all your great efforts.
I think that will be all for now. Carry on. I dont want to waste any more of your time. 8)
Mags
Hi Magsy,
I'm trying to understand the circuit here. Is it the one posted? Those links seem to lead to a video that's been removed. And I'm just not clever enough to work this out. I'll check OUR.com. Maybe MH has got something more there.
Golly Magsy - You're clearly rather passionate about this. I'm going to check out the earlier thread and see if I can get to grips with anything. I'm not the brightest button in the box - unfortunately. And I want to get into this. Clearly you feel very passionately about it.
Take care there Magsy and I'll see what I can manage during the day. How nice is this? A new thread. ;D And if MH's already trying to argue it then it's likely to be full of promise. And if Poynty also disapproves - then it's got to be a winner. That's always the best gauge when you're looking for a new project.
Kindest regards,
Rosie
Hey mags I built one but it was a bitch to tune. I could never find the sweet spot. Lit the led but trying to get the reed just in the right place far enough away from the iron core... Just beyond my capabilities at the time :) still have it somewhere will get it out of mothballs and have a play.
Hey Rose
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rySqz7Hgpkk Wilbys full copy w/schematic ;]
The passion is in knocking down the walls that try to close in. And simply to prove that the ones that claim it wont work, with out having built it yet, nor any admission of exactly why or how it wont work, because they do not understand the circuit themselves, shows what extent some will go to in order to deride people with ideas and projects that these sites are suppose to support, not discredit without accurate grounds to be doing so. It is suppressive dont ya think? ;]
Mags
Hey Jim
Thats great that you have it built already.
Once you get it out, if you could post some pics of the setup, that would be a good start. ;]
Thanks for taking interest. I have some questions, but Im at lunch. Be back after work.
It has begun. Batteries not included. ;)
Mags
Hi Magluvin (http://www.overunity.com/profile/magluvin.20048/),
check the picture attached, replace the magnetic ball with something like the one I draw in the picture and will easier to get it runing.
I believe this one has the potential to self run. Instead of fighting someone should better build it and see if it works or not.
It is close to the one I have built with hall sensor and no battery, just the right size capacitor.
I will build it aswell one of these days.
Regards,
Romero
Hi Magsy
That's JUST SO COOL. Amazing. Is this Wilby's work? Or did he simply upload the video? I'm going to see if I can buy one of those spherical magnets and try this myself. So SWEET.
Maybe Jimboot can show us his work as well? I think we'd all be interested - even if it's to show the difficulties.
Kindest as ever Magsy,
Rosie
Hey Romero
Thank you very much for that. ;)
The fighting is just to pin the tails on the donkeys, so that all may know what exactly we are dealing with when these people that try to discourage progress. So in the future here, everyone can see how many holes are in those buckets they present to us and be able to look beyond the walls of the box they are trying to put around us. 8)
Again, thanks. ;D
Mags
hey Rose
No, Wilby just copied it before it was taken down. Zeropoint132 at YT made the vid and the device.
Gota git back to work, im 20 min late from lunch. But I have that option to do so. ;]
Mags
Im putting together a base for the coil I have to mount to. And my rotor and base had some liquid spilled on it. I thought it was my cats doing at first, but I dont know what it was. Was in the closet for quite a while. So im cleaning out the bearings also. The bearings are from a hobby shop. I had taken the caps off to clean the grease out completely and ground in graphite powder a couple years ago. The graphite remains in the bearing race even when cleaned with acetone when dirty.
I tried just about every oil. Nothing worked like this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSTfFIetYPY
And one from someone who took my advice. ;]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaG_CLsdN4M&feature=related
My 2 vids after that in my YT vid list show the rotor rundown from 1200 rpm. It took 14+ min to stop, thus 2 vids, when TY had the 10min limit per vid.
Its a bit boring. But towards the end, it seems like its just never ever going to stop. ;]
Just thought I would share that tid bit.
I soldered some longer leads to my temporary bifi before I get my supplies in. They were short for another project, but here I need change ability with connections.
Got diodes, leds, reeds, rotor on a base, reed stand, and the most important thing, NO BATTERIES!
Hey Romero
In your opinion, does it matter if the 2 separate strands are of different size in the bifi? If they are different, which one is which? ;D And it would be of great help in understanding the why they should be different. If the same size, I can start winding now, not next week. ;) And already on 2 separate spools. That would make me happy.
Romero. Is 4000 turns necessary? More turns, longer wire, lower freq of operation to get good effects?
And when you say the right capacitance, now I know that when the reed is released, the capacitor is not just for reed switch protection. Just figuring. ;)
Romeros circuit is the same as Z's parallel circuit. ;D
Thank You ;) Sorry for all the questions. I have more too. lol
Mags
@rose @mags will do. Maybe 48 hours from now - my business is flat out ATM and customers come first :)
My bifilar is not pretty as it was one of the early ones I wound. From memory I think my cap was a little on the low side as well. Looking forward to your feedback once I get the vid up.
@romero are you using a hall sensor or switch? Love to see the circuit as reeds are so temperamental. Thanks.
@romero just thinking about your spinning top. Maybe a pc fan rotor or dc motor rotor with the coils removed and disc neos on the outside. They spin really well as a top and may get initial revs up really well. Not sure of the mag pole orientation tho.
anyone who wants a copy of the SMSMAT video should download it from my youtube channel immediately. youtube has seen fit to add an "as seen on overunity.com affiliation link" to this video that is above and beyond my control. unless stephan is willing to compensate me for driving traffic to his site, this is unacceptable to me. i have emailed youtube about this and they don't seem to care, so my only recourse is to take the video down.
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on March 15, 2012, 07:03:01 AM
anyone who wants a copy of the SMSMAT video should download it from my youtube channel immediately. youtube has seen fit to add an "as seen on overunity.com affiliation link" to this video that is above and beyond my control. unless stephan is willing to compensate me for driving traffic to his site, this is unacceptable to me. i have emailed youtube about this and they don't seem to care, so my only recourse is to take the video down.
Mate! You can control it from here - defang the link in the thread. The bot is just picking it up from here.
Quote from: Jimboot on March 15, 2012, 07:28:26 AM
Mate! You can control it from here - defang the link in the thread. The bot is just picking it up from here.
no you can't control it. yeah sure i can remove the link from here... and what happens when someone else links it? like mags just did... and what happens when some other site posts a link. do you really think a site that is generating $ from people viewing their advertisements is going to honor my request to remove a link to my youtube channel? one that is possibly driving traffic to their site, generating them $?
come on jim... ::) you own a web seo company, surely you see the abuses that will come from this policy of youtube?
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on March 15, 2012, 07:33:05 AM
no you can't control it. yeah sure i can remove the link from here... and what happens when someone else links it? like mags just did... and what happens when some other site posts a link. do you really think a site that is generating $ from people viewing their advertisements is going to honor my request to remove a link to my youtube channel? one that is possibly driving traffic to their site, generating them $?
come on jim... ::) you own a web seo company, surely you see the abuses that will come from this policy of youtube?
Google /YouTube makes no money from this. They're trying to deliver relevant results and give context so they can deliver relevant ads. They're always trying to increase cyr on their ads. All I'm saying is go in with your eyes wide open :) luvyawork mate.
Quote from: Jimboot on March 15, 2012, 08:32:09 AM
Google /YouTube makes no money from this. They're trying to deliver relevant results and give context so they can deliver relevant ads. They're always trying to increase cyr on their ads. All I'm saying is go in with your eyes wide open :) luvyawork mate.
i didn't say google/youtube make money from this... ::) what are you reading?
look jim it's this simple... imagine for a moment the videos you host on your stewartmedia site were hosted on youtube instead. then one of your competitors adds links to your videos from his sites and suddenly when people stumble upon your videos @youtube they get to see an 'AS SEEN ON www.yourcompetition.com' affiliate link on YOUR videos. is your competition going to remove the links that are now generating traffic to THEIR site via this 'AS SEEN ON www.yourcompetetion.com' affiliate link youtube has so kindly generated on YOUR channel? are you going to say pretty please? now imagine a video getting linked from a pirate torrent site. suddenly your youtube channel appears to be supporting piracy... get the picture yet jim? why do i even have to explain this?
google/youtube have done nothing to resolve this for MONTHS and i won't tolerate it. end of discussion.
Ok good luck with that.
I have never seen anything like this before. It's good to see this information
Hi Mary
Not many have I would say. ;] Im putting things together tonight, just after American Idol. ;]
I love music.
Im thinking of adding a battery. :o lol not ;)
Mags
From MileHigh at OUR...
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1391.msg22038#msg22038
As for being smug about the whole thing, Im just sticking to my guns. I know that you cant see or understand why I continue working on these kind of things, all with a similar goal. There are many things that I could be doing. But this is my thing. Just because it is not your thing, clearly, then we just happen to like and enjoy doing different things.
Why should I follow your leader M? Tell everyone here why ? And when they know, then they will know. But were still moving forward here toward that goal.
And as for the grandstanding, Im not going to get stuck into making fakes as you suggest.
Hey readers of this thread. Does it sound like MileHigh still is trying to convince me of building fakes instead of going for the real deal? Why is that really? 8)
Hey M. Why do you care about this project particularly? What is the attraction for you, but only to talk me into building a fake? Still? And look back at 2009 on the same project what you had to say there. There are many threads to speak of. Why do you have an itch for this one?
Hows that for grandstanding?
Lastly, even if I couldnt get it to work, does that mean that it couldnt for sure? I could only tell you that I gave up to tell the truth. Or I could only say that I dont think it will work. Nothing is definite. Truthfully? The only way you could possibly convince me not to build it, is if you even just told me that you have built it and were able to explain details of the experiment and the reasons why it wont work. Then if it made a lot of sense, literally, I might be deterred more or less. But you havnt said you built it. Nor given any detailed reasons as to why.
So you do not know really anything. Only that you prefer that I dont build it. 8)
Transparent like a bowl full of jello. Maybe one day this will be me.. 8) mags 8)
Dems my mibs
Mags
8) MileHigh again, and speaking you know what, my well informed readers. 8) ;)
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1391.msg22039#msg22039
Mags
Quote from: Magluvin on March 14, 2012, 11:11:21 PM
Im putting together a base for the coil I have to mount to. And my rotor and base had some liquid spilled on it. I thought it was my cats doing at first, but I dont know what it was. Was in the closet for quite a while. So im cleaning out the bearings also. The bearings are from a hobby shop. I had taken the caps off to clean the grease out completely and ground in graphite powder a couple years ago. The graphite remains in the bearing race even when cleaned with acetone when dirty.
I tried just about every oil. Nothing worked like this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSTfFIetYPY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSTfFIetYPY)
And one from someone who took my advice. ;]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaG_CLsdN4M&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaG_CLsdN4M&feature=related)
My 2 vids after that in my YT vid list show the rotor rundown from 1200 rpm. It took 14+ min to stop, thus 2 vids, when TY had the 10min limit per vid.
Its a bit boring. But towards the end, it seems like its just never ever going to stop. ;]
Just thought I would share that tid bit.
I soldered some longer leads to my temporary bifi before I get my supplies in. They were short for another project, but here I need change ability with connections.
Got diodes, leds, reeds, rotor on a base, reed stand, and the most important thing, NO BATTERIES!
Hey Romero
In your opinion, does it matter if the 2 separate strands are of different size in the bifi? If they are different, which one is which? ;D And it would be of great help in understanding the why they should be different. If the same size, I can start winding now, not next week. ;) And already on 2 separate spools. That would make me happy.
Romero. Is 4000 turns necessary? More turns, longer wire, lower freq of operation to get good effects?
And when you say the right capacitance, now I know that when the reed is released, the capacitor is not just for reed switch protection. Just figuring. ;)
Romeros circuit is the same as Z's parallel circuit. ;D
Thank You ;) Sorry for all the questions. I have more too. lol
Mags
Hi,
I believe the 4000 is required if the ball is small. A bigger ball with stronger magnetic field should work with less windings. I constructed one coil with 4000 turns and taps at every 1000 turns.
Different size wire might be required, I built my coil like that.I will try it this weekend.
Regards,
Romero
Ok found my unit. Couldn't get the led to light tonight so I will check wiring tmrw. It has no where Near 4000 turns though. It would be lucky to have a 100.
MileHigh (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=profile;u=7) started barking again on our.com, he might not realised that the hall is empty...
I still have no clue why he oposes to any new ideea, good or bad is not your problem, just leave us alone.
How can you keep barking(shouting) all day long? Take it easy!
Don't you see that we enjoy playing this game with or without results we still enjoy it, this makes us different than you, I believe you enjoy fighting and going crazy, please check a doctor, I believe you need it.
Romero
Quote from: romerouk on March 16, 2012, 12:37:49 PM
MileHigh (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=profile;u=7) started barking again on our.com, he might not realised that the hall is empty...
I still have no clue why he oposes to any new ideea, good or bad is not your problem, just leave us alone.
How can you keep barking(shouting) all day long? Take it easy!
Don't you see that we enjoy playing this game with or without results we still enjoy it, this makes us different than you, I believe you enjoy fighting and going crazy, please check a doctor, I believe you need it.
Romero
I totally agree Romero. It is either he craves the fight, or he is one of these.. 8)
Dumped had a reply to M....
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1391.msg22041#msg22041 (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1391.msg22041#msg22041)
There are 5 components involved with 2 different schematics that are the same and one that has just a different hookup with the 2 coils. We will see
Really though, the amount of discouragement, is very encouraging. lol If ya know what I mean.
Glad to have ya around Romero. And, glad to see your still around. 8) ;)
Mags
FYI Post subject: Bedini SG - THE Key to Meyer's circuit!
Bedini_SG_-_THE_Key_to_Meyers_circuit.pdf 62-pages
8)
Quote from: fuzzytomcat on March 16, 2012, 12:56:04 PM
FYI Post subject: Bedini SG - THE Key to Meyer's circuit!
Bedini_SG_-_THE_Key_to_Meyers_circuit.pdf 62-pages
8)
Hey 8)
One common trait with these 8) , is to distract. Then will come the insults.
Is anyone feeling better about this project? Feeling more encouraged?
That will be all you need to know for today class. Well done. Class dismissed. ;)
Mags
Also, I hope that pdf from the 8) kitty is just a pdf. 8) Im not opening it. Besides, its a distraction. Not interested.
Mags
Magluvin I understood you and Milehigh were friends, do you know him personally?
This link is special for him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9ytcwBgJNE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9ytcwBgJNE&feature=related)
I have not even said it works and he jumped on me... I will just give it a try, with some modifications to the wireing.
Let's assume it works, I will not show it working if it does, this one or any other one... these days maybe is better to negate everything, too much hate in the world.
Romero
Quote from: romerouk on March 16, 2012, 12:37:49 PM
MileHigh (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=profile;u=7) started barking again on our.com, he might not realised that the hall is empty...
I still have no clue why he oposes to any new ideea, good or bad is not your problem, just leave us alone.
How can you keep barking(shouting) all day long? Take it easy!
Don't you see that we enjoy playing this game with or without results we still enjoy it, this makes us different than you, I believe you enjoy fighting and going crazy, please check a doctor, I believe you need it.
Romero
Not wanting to be intrusive, but have romero ever crossed ur mind, that your bullshitollogy has infuriated many people? just my 2 cents
Hey Romero
Friends with MH? If anything, we mostly argue. lol Did someone tell you this?
We have had short lived civil times. In fact, it was over your motor that we started talking(arguing) in the first place. ;) Can you guess who was on your side? ;D
I have never said it works either. ;] Same boat. But thats what we are here to find out.
I think Ive had enough of bringing his conversations here and continue on. It was all just to show what its all about. Suppression.
If it is known by him not to work, then why all the fuss? Maybe it does. ;)
Mags
Quote from: Magluvin on March 16, 2012, 06:20:58 PM
Hey Romero
Friends with MH? If anything, we mostly argue. lol Did someone tell you this?
We have had short lived civil times. In fact, it was over your motor that we started talking(arguing) in the first place. ;) Can you guess who was on your side? ;D
I have never said it works either. ;] Same boat. But thats what we are here to find out.
I think Ive had enough of bringing his conversations here and continue on. It was all just to show what its all about. Suppression.
If it is known by him not to work, then why all the fuss? Maybe it does. ;)
Mags
I might possible got it wrong, based on some old forum posts.
I have no problem if him or anyone does not agree with me, we all have freedom to our opinion but MH fires all ammunition for any subject he does not agree.
Here, on the forums we should all be friends or just ignore what we don't like, just like a tv remote, change channel...
Suppression - No more!
End of subject!
Romero
hey Romero
I know what you mean..
Imagine this. Imagine that tomorrow, we all met for the first time at some campgrounds for a day of barbeque, beer, vollyball and the chance to meet all the others.
Would there be any differences in any of us, when face to face?
;)
Some would still be who we know them to be though. Some.
Ok, Im guna eat and git busy here. Almost ready to spin my wheel. ;D
Mags
Quote from: Magluvin on March 16, 2012, 09:33:30 PM
hey Romero
I know what you mean..
Imagine this. Imagine that tomorrow, we all met for the first time at some campgrounds for a day of barbeque, beer, vollyball and the chance to meet all the others.
Would there be any differences in any of us, when face to face?
;)
Some would still be who we know them to be though. Some.
Ok, Im guna eat and git busy here. Almost ready to spin my wheel. ;D
Mags
Soooo want bbq & beer now...
ok wiring fixed. get a charge at least and light the led. now to try the mirror again :)
Hi Magsy, guys,
I've been reading at OUR.com. MileHigh's deliberately ignoring the fact that you, Magsy, are only going to test this without claims either way. He's now INSISTING that you've staked your reputation on this working. It's what he needs to say so that he can 'score' off this in the event that your circuit doesn't work. It's his special 'tactic'. The answer is simple. Ask him to show you WHERE you claimed to state - unequivocally - that it works. I see that nowhere. I only see that you want to TEST it before you decide either way. That's really good science. Frankly you'd do better not to read there.
And Jimboot - well done for doing that work. Let us know what gives.
Kindest regards,
Rosie.
Quote from: Jimboot on March 16, 2012, 10:24:40 PM
Soooo want bbq & beer now...
Mmmmm beer. lol I dont drink hardly at all any more. I can have maybe 2 beers, and I feel like 6 er 7. Like some reverse tolerance. So ill have 1 once in a great while.
Been taking a vitamin B complex that has woken me up quite a bit. I bought them 2 weeks ago. Took 1, and felt a bit uppity for 2 days. Nothing crazy, but I knew I was different.
A week later took another and was way up. I could not imagine taking 1 a day as recommended. Every 2 to 3 days for me.
Its not like caffine uppity. Its like, like I havnt felt this good in a long time uppity. It is strange. While I was feeling down before, then to feel like this, it is hard to get used to. Hard to feel normal about feeling normal. Does that make sense?
And no burnout. I had taken vitamins a long time ago. that is all I can figure is my B levels have been down.
And clearer thinking seems to come with it. Even at work I am noticing improvements at figuring out problems.
Sundown Naturals High Potency B Super Maxi Complex.
If you havnt taken vitamins and dont feel up to par most of the time, give it a shot.
The B shot. lol, in tablet form. ;]
Mags
Quote from: Magluvin on March 16, 2012, 10:52:52 PM
Mmmmm beer. lol I dont drink hardly at all any more. I can have maybe 2 beers, and I feel like 6 er 7. Like some reverse tolerance. So ill have 1 once in a great while.
Been taking a vitamin B complex that has woken me up quite a bit. I bought them 2 weeks ago. Took 1, and felt a bit uppity for 2 days. Nothing crazy, but I knew I was different.
A week later took another and was way up. I could not imagine taking 1 a day as recommended. Every 2 to 3 days for me.
Its not like caffine uppity. Its like, like I havnt felt this good in a long time uppity. It is strange. While I was feeling down before, then to feel like this, it is hard to get used to. Hard to feel normal about feeling normal. Does that make sense?
And no burnout. I had taken vitamins a long time ago. that is all I can figure is my B levels have been down.
And clearer thinking seems to come with it. Even at work I am noticing improvements at figuring out problems.
Sundown Naturals High Potency B Super Maxi Complex.
If you havnt taken vitamins and dont feel up to par most of the time, give it a shot.
The B shot. lol, in tablet form. ;]
Mags
You keep saying this. I'm definitely going to give it a go. I'm permanently exhausted. Golly Mags. Perhaps it's just a vitamin deficiency. And I might tell you - you're posting has been amazing. So. Maybe there's something in this. I do hope so. I need SOMETHING to give me energy.
Rosie
Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on March 16, 2012, 10:50:05 PM
Hi Magsy, guys,
I've been reading at OUR.com. MileHigh's deliberately ignoring the fact that you, Magsy, are only going to test this without claims either way. He's now INSISTING that you've staked your reputation on this working. It's what he needs to say so that he can 'score' off this in the event that your circuit doesn't work. It's his special 'tactic'. The answer is simple. Ask him to show you WHERE you claimed to state - unequivocally - that it works. I see that nowhere. I only see that you want to TEST it before you decide either way. That's really good science. Frankly you'd do better not to read there.
And Jimboot - well done for doing that work. Let us know what gives.
Kindest regards,
Rosie.
Hey Rose
I know. He tries to be a tricky bugger. I was once a bit intimidated by him. But now, Im seeing his game.
Its like Romeo and Juliet now. By trying to get you away from it, I only want it more.
The romeo and Juliet effect. lol
My bet would be to look at all past ideas presented on this site, starting with the ones that were inconclusive either way for what ever reasons, but had the most negativity from the wolves. Those projects are my best bet.
I just posted those here to prove some points. I think the points are clear. ;]
Thanks Rose. How is the Kitty? ;]
Mags
Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on March 16, 2012, 10:58:33 PM
You keep saying this. I'm definitely going to give it a go. I'm permanently exhausted. Golly Mags. Perhaps it's just a vitamin deficiency. And I might tell you - you're posting has been amazing. So. Maybe there's something in this. I do hope so. I need SOMETHING to give me energy.
Rosie
These have 1000% of 6 B's B1 B2 Niacin B6 B12 and pantothenic acid, and 100% of folic acid 6% calcium. Just in case the brand is not available for some. Dont take 1 every day though. Not till you try every 2 or 3 days first. Those are my recommendations, after just more than a week. ;D
Sundown Naturals High Potency B Super Maxi Complex. Grocery store vitamin section.
I highly recommend it.
Thanks Rose Hows the Kitty? ;D
Mags
Quote from: Magluvin on March 16, 2012, 11:07:12 PM
How is the Kitty? ;]
Mags
KittyCat's gone into hiding. I think someone I know rather well has finally managed to 'declaw' her. She's not likely to manage the same level of mischief as she's used to. Which is a good thing. Hopefully she'll find a home somewhere where she's appreciated. I think that OUR house is probably her best refuge. Where people don't mind all that damage. Actually - come to think of it - it's promoted. But if she's ignored there too - which seems to be happening - then I think she'll probably just go 'wild' - which is actually quite suitable. She's a pesky little varmit. Not at all civilised. And somewhat unstable. Even those in OUR house want to distance themselves from all that spite. You'll notice that until today NOT ONE PERSON has ever addressed her other than to shoo her away other than TK.
ACTUALLY. There's the answer. Ticky tacK and Kitty Cat. They can set up house together. They'd be very suitable. But Ticky tacK will have to protect his little penquin. And Kitty Cat will need to learn to some language skills. Then they'd be great mates. A marriage in heaven. Golly. I think my true genius is as a match maker. 'Match maker, match maker - make me a man'. But for that to happen we'd need miracles. And possibly some extensive surgery.
LOL
Kindest as ever,
Rosie
Quote from: Magluvin on March 16, 2012, 10:52:52 PM
Mmmmm beer. lol I dont drink hardly at all any more. I can have maybe 2 beers, and I feel like 6 er 7. Like some reverse tolerance. So ill have 1 once in a great while.
Been taking a vitamin B complex that has woken me up quite a bit. I bought them 2 weeks ago. Took 1, and felt a bit uppity for 2 days. Nothing crazy, but I knew I was different.
A week later took another and was way up. I could not imagine taking 1 a day as recommended. Every 2 to 3 days for me.
Its not like caffine uppity. Its like, like I havnt felt this good in a long time uppity. It is strange. While I was feeling down before, then to feel like this, it is hard to get used to. Hard to feel normal about feeling normal. Does that make sense?
And no burnout. I had taken vitamins a long time ago. that is all I can figure is my B levels have been down.
And clearer thinking seems to come with it. Even at work I am noticing improvements at figuring out problems.
Sundown Naturals High Potency B Super Maxi Complex.
If you havnt taken vitamins and dont feel up to par most of the time, give it a shot.
The B shot. lol, in tablet form. ;]
Mags
Ok turns out same issues as before. The mag has to come to cose to the ferrites to get a charge and thus is attracted by it. My wire is probably to thick. 0.5mm . Romero is probably right methinks. more turns lighter gauge wire.
Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on March 16, 2012, 11:41:26 PM
I think that OUR house is probably her best refuge. Where people don't mind all that damage. Actually - come to think of it - it's promoted. But if she's ignored there too - which seems to be happening - then I think she'll probably just go 'wild'
As Glenn Beck says "show me your friends, and Ill show you your future"
Classic
;D
Mags
Quote from: Jimboot on March 17, 2012, 12:09:38 AM
Ok turns out same issues as before. The mag has to come to cose to the ferrites to get a charge and thus is attracted by it. My wire is probably to thick. 0.5mm . Romero is probably right methinks. more turns lighter gauge wire.
Hey Jim
What mag do you have? If its the same as Z's, they are strong buggers. Ive also read that the field at the poles extend a bit like a beaming effect. I dont remember the exact words. But I remember what I envisioned.
How far from the coil/core is the mag? In Z's vid, it seems a good distance compared to conventional motors or gens. And Romero said some things on this spacing before.
Do you have wire to make the 4000 turn coil? I know you have done quite a bit of winding in your time. ;]
Ive got to move into my new shop in the morning. Its for working on my fieros and doin projects. Nice lil shop. 1000ft $600 No last or sec. Im stoked.
The cars have been in storage with a lot of my stuff. So Im glad that part of my life is back. I had to give up my last shop as it was $1100 and was between jobs.
Was thinking about the wire sizes as to why the difference.....
It could be a way of joining a coil(thin) to another of the same length in series, and the net result would not be a doubling of the resistance. Geddit? Just thoughts As if say the 30ga coil was in action, but the other 26ga coil was not at the time due to the diode. But then they join in another phase of operation. Thinkin why 2 sizes. ;]
One thing Im going to do is add a battery. lol To a separate pulse coil to just drive the rotor for some tests on the coil without having to keep spinning it by hand. This way I can see what happens with just the coils and the diode. To find out what is happening in there being that they are all together in this portion. Also if the pulse motor is turning the rotor, we can constantly be adjusting to look for speedups and slowdowns. Then we will get a clue of what is happening with adjustments made as we go. This probably wouldnt work with using the sphere as the pulse driver might really affect the operation being close to the mag ball.
Doing rundowns also is a good test. lets say we record the time for the rotor to slow down from a particular speed by itself, and then do the same with the setup in a particular situation/alignment. If it takes longer to slow down with the setup, then we are close.
But were hoping for a runner.
ok gota git to bed soon. Im typing half dislexic. lol
Mags
ok I gota respond to this from M...
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1391.msg22060#msg22060
Its strange I know. He is banned from here and me from there...
M. You say Im off balance.
I have come here to do this project. And guess what. You have something to say about it.
Every day. Well, you were absent there for a bit, after... ;)
But you made the earlier statements on the battery thing. That didnt come out the way you wanted it to? Or did it? Im not the only one that read it. It was utter nonsense. Do I need to put a poll up at the top of this thread just to show you that I am not the only one you would consider off balance?
And can you show me that your method of designing a fake is how to tell if a device is fake from real without ever trying to get real? And can you show me any references to this way of science, or is it something you have come up with on your own? I dont see any supporters over there cheerin you on.
And why would popular opinion not count in your mind, but it does in ours? Something is off balance. What is the common denominator? 8) Yer all alone there. Just you and Dumped taking a dump on you, in your own house. :o
I dont seem to have that problem here because I am so off balance, see. ;) Do you really want to continue this? really really?
Yet you stand your ground. That is bold, but maybe bipolar. Or off balance err sumthin.
Now, you have made me challenges. I tell you what. You keep the pie hole shut for 1 month. Shut shut, no pm babble, nada. Not a peep. If after that time we dont have nuthin, then I will take your suggestions as to how to figure out why. Ill give you 1 week to conclude youre full argument. And we will decide if it holds any water or if your bucket is a shower head. I think that is being very generous. To give you the stage, for 1 week.
there will be no insults, from either side(you and me). If you like, we call a truce, here and now. For now.
Well?
I dont think that is unreasonable nor off balance. Anyone? I get a month because I dont know what Im doing, and you get a week because you do. Is that assessment good for you?
But dangit, 1 peep, and no deal and nooo talky. One bit of insult to anyone else here. Even if they do it to you( as I dont have control of that), you must endure it and remain 100% professional. As will I.
If you agree, we begin tomorrow. Sun 18. You have till midnight to decide. if yes, then Not a peep. peep peep not a pip shhhhhh shush ;)
How bout that bag of apples?
Whoaaaa whaaaoo! :o oops, I lost my balance there for a sec. ;D errr I regained it for a second, because Im already off balance? ::)
Its the Vitamin B ;D
Mags
Lol yeah thinking about one of my mini Christmas coils with a ferrite. I have a 1" neo sphere. It has to be pretty close to light the led. Any ideas of cap value? I'm winding another joule thief ATM so I'll get back to it when done.
Hey Jim
Well Romero said that the cap would need to be the right one for the setup. 10uf is the recommended in the 4000 tune circuit. You could start there. It may be just a speed adjustment, up or down that will determine a match. Dunno yet, but start with 10uf I d say for now.
See, if your coil is only about 100 turns, your sphere may not be up to speed for that.
the 4000 turns will have much slower reactions and actions to accomodate slower speeds, as in the number of pole passes in a period of time.
thanks for Joining in Jim. ;]
mags
M speaks...
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1391.msg22075#msg22075
Ok M. No show down at the OK coral? No deal? ok
Till midnight you have. Ill give you that. Till then or after 12 am if you dont agree, ya get nuthin.
Then you will come to OU under a new FAKE member, like SpikyVoltage, or PoonPoonMagoon, what ever. And I will recognize you, as done before, and you will get banned again, just as you have before. Your a known Rebannder. lol
Mags Ova and out Till the clock strikes 12 M. That is the best I will do for you.
Ok, just got back from moving my stuff. M is still, as Rose Would say, muttering. Shush.
Some of the muttering is in reference to Romero. Then it will be about Jimboot.
My enthusiasm just keep climbing. The Romeo and Juliet effect
Just put my camera battery on charge, I should have some things to show later today with this little bifi for now.
Mags
hey M 7 hours and 9 min till midnight. ;)
Check this one here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B1TgzNl2dQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B1TgzNl2dQ)
The magnets arrangement should work better like that than the magnet ball.
Romero
Hey Romero
If Im seeing what I think im seeing. That, is a beautiful thing. ;D
Thanks for that.
I have to go to my shop for a little while. Be back later.
Mags
Edit to add ,
Hey M. Theres yer battery. :o ;D
But of course, we will be hearing the "fake" line again from the peanut gallery. ;)
Mags
This particular "peanut" sees nothing particularly "mind-blowing" in that video.... in fact it's rather amusing. I especially liked the part where the voltmeter becomes disconnected from the battery.... but still indicates a voltage, a decreasing one.... until it's hooked back up.
See?
Mags
Quote from: Magluvin on March 18, 2012, 12:10:37 PM
See?
Mags
I see what I see. What do you see?
Did the voltmeter not come disconnected from the battery for a moment? Did the voltage not drop to zero but rather show a continuously decreasing voltage from about 1.4 volts on down, until he wiggled stuff and remade the connection?
What's your explanation for that event? Perhaps it was the charging circuit that came disconnected, and not the battery itself...? I don't know if that's consistent either; I'll have to think about it for a little while.
This is not a full analysis, mind; it's just a first impression. But I do have all the necessary parts _shown on the video_ on hand....
BTW you haven't said whether my replication of you-know-who's you-know what, the first one years ago, was sufficiently exact enough for your liking.
Quote from: TinselKoala on March 18, 2012, 02:17:30 PM
I see what I see. What do you see?
Did the voltmeter not come disconnected from the battery for a moment? Did the voltage not drop to zero but rather show a continuously decreasing voltage from about 1.4 volts on down, until he wiggled stuff and remade the connection?
What's your explanation for that event? Perhaps it was the charging circuit that came disconnected, and not the battery itself...? I don't know if that's consistent either; I'll have to think about it for a little while.
This is not a full analysis, mind; it's just a first impression. But I do have all the necessary parts _shown on the video_ on hand....
BTW you haven't said whether my replication of you-know-who's you-know what, the first one years ago, was sufficiently exact enough for your liking.
What I meant by "see?" is that the nay sayers will come fast and they did.
Z and Mopozco Were friends I believe back then. I have followed Him also since. I think he is straight up.
I also was taken in buy a video of the Whipmag, from Alsetalokin, aka Tinselkoala
Who let on like it was real for. how long was it? How many people were lead on by that?
So I suppose you are an expert with fakes, so that is how you know for sure that Mopo vid is just trickery. Takes one to know one. :P
Or was the Whip real? ;) Cant get any truth on that one, for years. But we should heed you words now, right? yeah Heed this.
No I have not looked at the old replication you referred me to. I have seen the latest and it is not the same circuit that you represent it to be, no matter how many sprinkles you put on it. So why would I be interested in some old stuff, when I see what is going on now? That old circuit justifies the new butchery?
Its like this. You start your vid with showing Roses circuit, and then present that what you have on the table is the same. Even if you dispute my argument that the transformer, the way you used it, with leds, 1 in parallel with the primary, and an led in parallel with the secondary, You must believe that this cluster is equal to a single 2 lead inductor, as shown in the schematic at the beginning of your vid, or you would not defend it so. It is not different?
So your vid is NOT a truthful representation of Roses circuit as you say it is. Even the newbes can understand that much .
If you walked into Earth Tech (you know who) and show them the schematic and then the circuit, would they laugh? Or would they say, wow, you are a frikin genius? Cmon T. Just stop it. It is not the same as a regular inductor that I know of. It is as different as a mosfet with a diode, and one that is without a diode. Simple simple. Yet you defend that.
I rest my case.
If you want to argue that, we will do it over there. Not here
Mags
Im late to pick up my stromboli. No time to edit or correct misspellings.
Here is what TK had in his vid. On the left is what Roses circuit shows as the inductor, and the leds in line with the inductor.
In TK table top setup, the 2 circuits on the right are hi replication of the use for the inductor and the leds. A transformer with on led across the primary and one across the secondary. I show 2 of his circuit, with the sec diode in the opposite direction, as I cannot tell from the vid.
Can anyone here say the either of the 2 circuits on the right are representative of Roses circuit on the left? Anyone? ;D
Yet TK stands by it. In your face.
Mags
You forgot to put in the series inductor ( the little brown thing sticking up to the left of the "transformer" in the videos-- it's clear enough). It's not 1 Henry.... are you sure Rosie's was?
So later on in the video series when I _remove_ the transformer choke, leaving the parallel LED in place, the circuit is just like what's on the left in your above diagram, and when I flip that LED, that's equivalent to showing them both hooked up simultaneously, isn't it? Except of course for the component values, which we know are accurately reported by Rosemary.
Next straw man, please.
And I thought you didn't want to argue about this here. So why are you doing it?
(And I'm crushed that you haven't viewed the early videos of my Ainslie work. You should.. you might be surprised, and you might learn some things. By the way, the person who is registered here as "alsetalokin", using the icon of a hand-held bulb lighting up next to a Tesla coil, is not me, and if you don't believe that, you can ask Stefan, who has all IP addresses and such recorded. Maybe you can ask "alsetalokin" about the Whipmag, but don't ask me about it. You won't like what you hear... which is that there is no way that device could have been doing anything unusual at all. Come to think of it.... didn't "alsetalokin" ALWAYS tell everyone who asked that it was NOT overunity self-runner at all?)
Oh... and the 2n7000 does have an internal body diode, it just isn't commonly shown on the diagram of that part. Look it up.
Your right, My last reply over there is posted. ;)
Mags
mags... alsetalokin(tinsel koala) is just playing you... he's wasting your time and energy just like he wasted lots of peoples time, energy and money with his previous hoax; the whipmag. do you really want to continue discussions with a guy who doesn't even have the balls to admit he is the 'alsetalokin' of whipmag infamy? professional integrity is the cornerstone of a scientist's credibility. tinselkoalaalsetalokin has none.
mags, here is the stuff from rose's old thread that tinselkoalaalsetalokin wanted you (and the other 3 readers ;) ) to read... from: http://www.overunity.com/7620/claimed-ou-circuit-of-rosemary-ainslie/msg197621/#msg197621
Quote from: utilitarian on August 16, 2009, 09:59:44 PM
QuoteSimilarly, can you demonstrate how NOT using the specified mosfet will result in a different conclusion to the experiment, i.e. that the circuit is overunity, rather than underunity as demonstrated?
that wasn't the conclusion being posited by tk. he had concluded (apparently before he started his hack of a 'replication') it was perfectly ok to substitute a mosfet based on data sheets. i called him on it. he didn't actually voice this conclusion until page 2.
Quote from: TinselKoala on June 17, 2009, 08:13:03 AM
QuoteOK, several points to address.
First, yes, when I can find them I will use identical components to Ainslie's circuit. Her MOSFET is kind of pricey and will have to be ordered; the one I'm using is...well, you can look up the data. It's pretty close, good enough for prelim testing. I will replace the shunt with .25 ohm today.
he then made an asinine hypothesis (see below for how that turned out) about the irfpg50 performance,
never once specifying 'over unity performance'. i called him on it. he then asked if i could show how it would perform any different on page 11.
Quote from: TinselKoala on July 01, 2009, 08:28:24 PM
QuoteThe answer to that, of course, is that I say what I say on a discussion forum, and she says what she says in published articles, the EIT paper, and patent applications. Her claim is false, mine is a slight exaggeration. My claim can be corrected simply by switching out the mosfet. Hers cannot be corrected so easily--her claim depends on an erroneous data input into calculations and would require re-running the experiment.
Would you care to make a little wager, Wilby?
If you can show a significant difference between the performance of the IRFPG50 mosfet used by Ainslie, and the 2SK1548 mosfet that I used in my replication, using the published circuit and parameters of Ainslie, I will gladly make a public apology to you. On the other hand, if the performance is substantially the same, you get off my back.
If you really think the mosfet makes a difference, you should take the bet.
(EDIT I was going to offer to bet money at odds, but I realised that would be unethical--like taking candy from a baby--. Sorry.)
please take note of these words...
My claim can be corrected simply by switching out the mosfet. Hers cannot be corrected so easily.here he is referring to his claim of no difference in mosfet performance, let alone OU, and her claim of over unity which he was calling erroneous due to the duty cycle issue.
and these words...
significant difference between the performance of the IRFPG50 mosfet used by Ainslie, and the 2SK1548 mosfet that I used.note no mention of over unity performance, just performance. why oh why do i have to hammer this in? oh yeah, the slow ones...
they (tk and his merry band of sycophants) all jabbered for a while pretending how smart they are and then,
asymatrix quantified it once again as being non relative to over unity performance by saying this on page 24.
Quote from: Asymatrix on July 08, 2009, 12:12:43 AM
QuotePlease tell the class why a slightly different FET will make a huge difference, let alone create OU.
tk did not amend this to being specifically relative to OU performance. while they (tk and his merry band of sycophants again) continued to jabber about how smart they are and how little i know, etc. i waited for him to get around to actually testing this experimentally. when he finally did, on page 42 i might add. he found this out.
Quote from: TinselKoala on July 13, 2009, 06:50:12 PM
QuoteThe long turn off time of the IRFPG50 really messes with the signal at these excessively short (using the FG) or LONG (using the 555) duty cycles.
The IRF unit does seem to heat up less than the 2SK, but that's just an early impression.
I think if you are into spikes in your signal, the 2SK might be a better choice here too. It turns on and off better than the IRF unit (not surprising, is it, looking at the data sheets and considering the gate capacitances). And since it turns on and off with faster rise and fall times, it produces a higher inductive pulse from the coil. I think. Maybe.
So there goes my hypothesis that the two transistors would perform pretty much the same. I was wrong about that. The 2SK1548, when properly cooled, outperforms the IRFPG50, as far as I can tell. And it's smaller. And quite a bit cheaper. And locally available.
take note of these words...
So there goes my hypothesis that the two transistors would perform pretty much the same. I was wrong about that.he did however, try to claim he 'meant' over unity performance later. much later. page 108 actually.
Quote from: TinselKoala on August 11, 2009, 07:07:38 AM
Quote"Significant difference" in this context clearly means OVERUNITY performance. And the two mosfets do not differ significantly in this respect.
i called him on that too.
so tinsel-lokin, where's that mea culpa you owe me? you still still have no integrity... SHAH MAT!
WILBY! :) Thanks
My coil holder needed a reglue last night.
By after work they will be solid. Gota git ta work
Mags
So... Wilby, my own dear personal troll... WHERE'S the OVERUNITY PERFORMANCE?
You are the master of the strawman+ad hominem arguments, that's for sure.
Where is the demonstration of Rosemary Ainslie's overunity performance? Have YOU ever seen one? Why aren't we powering our homes with IRFPG50 mosfets recharging batteries infinitely?
What I do and think doesn't matter at all, does it. And what YOU do and think doesn't either.
WHERE IS THE OVERUNITY PERFORMANCE? It sure won't be found in Ainslie's circuit, and if you don't think my work contributed to the understanding of her circuit by the people working on it, that is your opinion. Meanwhile.... I suppose you see nothing wrong with what Rosemary is claiming in that other thread. 25.6 million Joules into 900 grams of water in 100 minutes. DO THE MATH.... I think you can probably handle it. You did go to high school at least, didn't you?
THEN WHY AREN'T YOU OBJECTING to Rosie's blatant errors and lies?
You all act like it's my fault that she --- and everybody else who's tried her circuit -- can't really get overunity performance. Meanwhile.... "PER" according to Rose NEVER denotes division, a Joule is a Watt per second, and she thinks her oxtail soup uses 46 million Watts to cook. And you want to complain about my experimental work. You are really really funny. Sad, illogical, misdirected, but really really funny.
How about you REFUTE my findings instead of just complaining that I did them wrong? Show a CORRECT replication of what you think I didn't do properly. PROVE ME WRONG, don't just assert it.
What does MY scientific integrity have to do with Rosemary Ainslie's claims? Nothing at all. You should be questioning HER integrity with reference to HER claims. I'm not making any claims... and as I recall, neither did alsetalokin.
If you don't trust me... then ignore me and build her circuit and test it yourself. Waste your own time, or discover Overunity on your own.
You don't need to learn from others, either mistakes or successes. Just do it yourself. That way you won't need to keep illustrating what an argumentum ad hominem, abusive, looks like.
And while you're at it... try the 2sk1548. You just might learn something... on your own.
Picked up some fresh reeds at Radio shack. Had 2. Broke the glass on one. I try to handle them carefully, but oh well. Like when bending the leads, it is best to grip the lead with small pliers/needle nose, closer to the glass bead end, and bend the other end how ever. The bending stress can crack the glass quite easily.
But RS only carries the reeds in reed relay form. Just straighten the leads and slide out one end. But this one was tight. So I used the needle nose to try and widen the opening, carefully, as I keep the rest of the relay in tact, for later uses. But the plastic housing broke very easily, and poof! Guess what?
:o ;D
The reed is ok Soldering it in now.
Mags
Way more than I expected :o thought that was funny
Here is the setup with my old bifi, till my wire comes.
The led is yellow. Trying different ones. They all seem to light.
More tomorrow. Was hot today. Im beat.
Mags
If you put a tiny capacitor in parallel with the reed, as close as possible, it will make the reed last longer, especially if you are using the reed to switch any substantial inductance directly.
When the reed opens, the energy stored in the magnetic field of the inductor wants to keep the current going as the field collapses, and this makes a little arc at the reed contacts when they open. This will result in erratic performance, complete opens (nonconduction) or complete shorts (contacts welded closed) in fairly short order. You can absorb this rush of current into a little capacitor and prevent it from damaging the reed.
If you are just switching TTL levels and using the reed to actuate a buffer stage, especially CMOS, and there isn't too much wire involved, your reed can last a long time without a parallel capacitor, since the inductance will be small and currents low.
I still think you are gonna need a battery, though.
I was wondering on that. I originally wanted to put it together without the breadboard like Z had his. But I may have changes to make and wanted the flexibility to change things quickly, just while I am getting used to what is happening. I twisted the leads to the read to reduce inductance there. Ill try the cap on the reed though.
Really just trying things. Like distances from mag to coil and how far out does the led light. The distances in the vid( and Mopozco vid huge) is a good bit from being very close. Even Romero had some distance, compared to conventional gen and motor armature/stator spacing.
So here we have some consistency as to the necessity of that spacing being very tight or loose. So I take these things into consideration.
I havnt had any issues with the reed. The 2 I had before going to get the poofy ones, one I broke and the other worked but was visibly burned on a previous project, and probably better to get new ones. I have lots of these big reeds also, but they are not as quick on and off. Even the ones I have may not be of the same characteristics of many others of its size. But I gota start somewhere.
Anyways, I understand what your saying. And thanks for the help.
Mags
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@mags @romero you guys seen this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKFTAobM-l0 sa,e principle?
Yes, posted 22-Nov 2010
Motore magnetico di Rovella
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho3I9JOBLq4&context=C43d5efaADvjVQa1PpcFPqn7rAO8ieEAOyB87phoFoGCzapb7OGkg= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho3I9JOBLq4&context=C43d5efaADvjVQa1PpcFPqn7rAO8ieEAOyB87phoFoGCzapb7OGkg=)
I wish anybody be able to kindly post a schematic !
cheers
Alvaro
Thanks Alvaro, I have to build one of these now :)
Quote from: ALVARO_CS on April 09, 2012, 06:58:39 AM
Yes, posted 22-Nov 2010
Motore magnetico di Rovella
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho3I9JOBLq4&context=C43d5efaADvjVQa1PpcFPqn7rAO8ieEAOyB87phoFoGCzapb7OGkg= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho3I9JOBLq4&context=C43d5efaADvjVQa1PpcFPqn7rAO8ieEAOyB87phoFoGCzapb7OGkg=)
I wish anybody be able to kindly post a schematic !
cheers
Alvaro
There are batteries inside the coils. Have a look when the guy switches direction for the rotation, the rotor starts turning the other way (1:43). That is not possible without having stored energy somwhere. I would understand it in different conditions but not like that.
Regards,
Romero
Quote from: romerouk on April 09, 2012, 08:18:30 AM
There are batteries inside the coils. Have a look when the guy switches direction for the rotation, the rotor starts turning the other way (1:43). That is not possible without having stored energy somwhere. I would understand it in different conditions but not like that.
Regards,
Romero
So not due to to the timing and switching of the reed when repositioned ?
Quote from: romerouk on April 09, 2012, 08:18:30 AM
There are batteries inside the coils. Have a look when the guy switches direction for the rotation, the rotor starts turning the other way (1:43). That is not possible without having stored energy somwhere. I would understand it in different conditions but not like that.
Regards,
Romero
Scammer reviels scammer Lol
Quote from: romerouk on April 09, 2012, 08:18:30 AM
There are batteries inside the coils. Have a look when the guy switches direction for the rotation, the rotor starts turning the other way (1:43). That is not possible without having stored energy somwhere. I would understand it in different conditions but not like that.
Regards,
Romero
Hi Romero,
I assume you have referred to the Motore magnetico di Rovella video, as faked. And do you think the video from Larskro what Jimboot linked to is also a fake?
Thanks, Gyula
Quote from: gyulasun on April 09, 2012, 03:47:25 PM
Hi Romero,
I assume you have referred to the Motore magnetico di Rovella video, as faked. And do you think the video from Larskro what Jimboot linked to is also a fake?
Thanks, Gyula
This one is based on identical principle, I don't see anything wrong but the message from the person who built it is: Don`t waste your time with a replication of this of motor / generator
Romero
Hi All,
A replication must be done to prove this, the parts are not that hard to get, and would not cost much, just some speakers or microwave oven magnets, two coils, two led diodes and one reed switch, timing is not that critical i think... ;D
Has anyone tried this?
Regards
Cc
Quote from: crazycut06 on April 10, 2012, 08:36:56 AM
Hi All,
A replication must be done to prove this, the parts are not that hard to get, and would not cost much, just some speakers or microwave oven magnets, two coils, two led diodes and one reed switch, timing is not that critical i think... ;D
Has anyone tried this?
Regards
Cc
If those devices are real, I'd say timing is everything.
There are times in the vid that the LEDs light with very little motion of the rotor. It does seem that there is a power source. Because at those times, the led seems to do mor than just a very quick flash.
Im still on our little project. I have not been able to get it running as shown.
But, Im messing with using the coil to generate a decently high voltage into a small cap and discharging it into another coil of fewer turns and very low ohms. Like the Tesla Gas Engine Igniter pat and the Ozone pat, which are literally the same. Just a different purpose at the output.
I had the rotor going pretty well with a small neon transformer using an AV plug to charge a small cap, .1uf to 1uf testing, and it turns pretty good. The NT input is 45ma using just 1 leg of the secondary to the AV plug.
Im now trying to use a Trisil which breaks down at 120v that will be in series with the reed switch. The reed when closed wont conduct till the cap is at or above 120v. So im trying different caps to get the timing of the 120v charge inline with the rotor rpms needed.Smaller the cap, the higher the rpm. For example, a large cap will take longer to get to 120v, so the reed switch may not pass any current multiple times before the cap reaches 120v. So just a big pulse every so often.
Im getting some good charge from the bifi using the shorting method with little drag. So I feel good about it all. will see. ;] It might be that the charge coil will just charge a larger cap and power the NT input, being it only needs a bit more than an LED current to run in AV plug mode.
I get the lil NT from old scanners with the bright neon light tubes that light the scanning surface. Just disassembled on a couple weeks ago, but no transformer. The tube was replaced by a strip of led's RGB throughout the strip. Nice strip to have though. Can produce any color combo by adjusting the current to each of the colors. I dont know why they would have them separately driven in the scanner though when white is all that is needed.
Mags
Hi Mags,
I agree with you about the led flashing brightly (did not notice that) even though the rotor is starting up slow, there maybe a power source somewhere.... :o
About your project a video will be nice... ;D keep it up...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=auM53X8Wog0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=auM53X8Wog0)
Cc
Hey CC
Yeah, the led's seem very bright for the low rpms also. From my experience anyway.
One thing that had me thinking though..
When he has the reed real close to the coil, the reed doesnt light(the vid with the small reed) It could be that the nut or top of bolt(assuming a battery in between) is causing magnetic distraction and the reed doesnt close when in that position.
If there is a battery, I would imagine that the reed would close in that position or a little off of the coil as shown. But it doesnt. I have to look at them again. I will look for any led lighting when the reed is at 90%. If a battery, then it will light led's. If not, then why.
;]
Its a bit hard to just dismiss it for sure, for me. Just because there is more negative reaction to it than positive. I would rather that it were tried by a few before it is put to sleep, just to cure any doubts either way. ;]
Will do some vids soon. Seems promising. But like Mavendex. He has been on that shell transformer for a long time now, and finally showing 130% eff. Very good. Time is a big ingredient.
Mags
I just got finished for the night. I have to retract my statement on the led not lighting at low rpms. I can get it with a relatively slow magnet pass, with coil shorting, with a white led.
The motor in the vid would have to be using coil shorting to get those leds to light.
So right now I cannot say for sure that there is a battery yet from my led evidence.
So far Im getting just over 100v into a 1uf cap quickly at low rpms(350 or so.)
Ran a pulse motor to keep the rotor going for testing.
I tried looping with batteries. Batt no load 5.5v with pulse motor 5.2 with loop 5.35.
First will be to get the motor eff. When looped and I disconnect the batt, the caps voltage slowly drops with the motor. 2 uf total motor and charge section. I expected just a full drop, but it holds for about 5 seconds down to 3v and so on. Im happy with that.
The gen section drag is very low. I feel like im walking in Romero's footsteps a bit with the coil shorting and increased distance of the gen coil from the rotor(no backing magnets) and getting seemingly good results. At least better than expected from experience.
Mags
Hi Mags,
Time is indeed a major factor :) Having trouble finding some myself for this experiment. Given my 100s of hours with the Ossie motor reeds I'm dying to try this one. Thanks for the updates. Interestingly there doesn't seem to be a cap in either of these vids?
Quote from: Magluvin on April 11, 2012, 12:54:09 AM
I just got finished for the night. I have to retract my statement on the led not lighting at low rpms. I can get it with a relatively slow magnet pass, with coil shorting, with a white led.
The motor in the vid would have to be using coil shorting to get those leds to light.
So right now I cannot say for sure that there is a battery yet from my led evidence.
So far Im getting just over 100v into a 1uf cap quickly at low rpms(350 or so.)
Ran a pulse motor to keep the rotor going for testing.
I tried looping with batteries. Batt no load 5.5v with pulse motor 5.2 with loop 5.35.
First will be to get the motor eff. When looped and I disconnect the batt, the caps voltage slowly drops with the motor. 2 uf total motor and charge section. I expected just a full drop, but it holds for about 5 seconds down to 3v and so on. Im happy with that.
The gen section drag is very low. I feel like im walking in Romero's footsteps a bit with the coil shorting and increased distance of the gen coil from the rotor(no backing magnets) and getting seemingly good results. At least better than expected from experience.
Mags
Hi Mags,
Let's assume that we can get the led to light at low speed 1.5v, but what if the rotor speed is faster? should it glow more brighter or maybe burn the led's with higher voltage? say 3v - 5v? in the video it's hard to see if the led's are getting brighter, seems the same to me, just flashing, well we should wait for his next video if he will reveal the secret... ::)
Anyways, your doing great with your project ;D looping is hard to do, but if you focus on something and believe that it can be done, you will find your self getti'n there without knowing it... :o and always experience is the best teacher! happy experimenting! ;D
Regards
Cc
On energeticforum there is discussion about this Italian motor also. There are two fairly extensive documents describing how it is built by the guy who made it apparently. They were in Italian but I did a Google translation of them. I find it hard to believe someone would go to the trouble of making as much documentation on the build as was found if it was just a fake so for now I'd give it a 'possible' rating ;)
I'm sure it takes some serious tuning though if it's possible....
Here it is guys the revelation! :o
Maybe larksro is an honest guy that he only wanted to warn people about believing on videos that has no proof of how it was made...case closed... ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n93iIduG01I&feature=player_detailpage
Ok. I looked at both vids, the wood block with metal cover and the plexi base motors.
The wood block one with the monster reed switch, that one lights up the led where ever the reed switch and magnet are. He made a mistake of moving the reed to the central position while the rotor was moving. The Plexi vid did not make that mistake. ;]
Ive worked with a lot of plexi. When he turns it to see the bottom, I would think we could see that the plexi was drilled for the bolt to go through. I dont see much of anything. Maybe some haze from superglue. Even with the angles of view, refraction and all, there would be some indication of a hole of the bolt width. But it looks solid. I look for those kinds of things when I work with plexi.
So if the wood model is battery powered, and the functions( acceleration, etc) are similar, then I have to assume the plexi model has the battery also. The woody is from 2010 and the plexy is recent.
Plexi had the hands of Mylow. Very carefull not to make the same mistakes as woody.
Always in complete systematic control of the reed position, never to move it in the middle position while the rotor is on the move, or the led might flash giving away the secret. If the magnet and reed are as far away from the coils as possible, why would the led light? ;] Battery
Still not fully sure why the reed doesnt activate when close to the coil with the close encounters ship magnet floating above. That tiny reed should be closed. I know that he positions it there often, even though he well knows that the, close to coil position, is useless. But not for his purposes. ;]
Shes a dud. But I would still say that he had a smaller battery than shown Would like to see. And woody could have them under the metal plate on top of the wood in a dugout.
Mags
Laskro has just irreparably damaged his brand with that latest vid. I for one have unsubscribed from the channel and won't waste my time with with anything he has to say. Maybe someone knocked on his door and threatened him to say it was a hoax I don't know. I'll probably still have a play with the idea as I have with the original reason for this thread. I guess I'm looking for a tipping point with this idea. Some input to start then a cascading effect. Even though Laskro did a reveal aaa batteries would not fit in his setup but I could see how smaller button types would. Who knows. I will still peruse my own ideas though.
Hey Jim
Ya know, this circuit kinda simplifies the Ossie circuit by eliminating the second reed switch. Even has a resistor. Now to equate it to the Ossie circuit, the led should be connected across the battery/coil and bypass the resistor, so more current will back flow through the battery than when the reed is closed, through the resistor. ;] Simple, simple simple. This eliminates the need to fine tune 2 reeds, of which Im sure is very frustrating to get them in perfect sync, as you well know. ;]
Look at the current flow when the reed is on, and then when off, with respect to the led polarity. Even if it was a fake, It has shown something interesting.
With the coil and battery always together, whether the reed is closed or open, to light that led, there has to be a reverse current through the battery to do so.
Very interesting. No? ;]
Mags
Ok I did the test and it does reverse. And it also works in Falstad sim.
http://falstad.com/circuit/
Code for the test circuit...
$ 1 4.9999999999999996E-6 10.20027730826997 50 5.0 50
l 416 128 416 176 0 1.0 3.3237572850258745E-17
r 416 256 416 304 0 5.0
v 416 176 416 256 0 0 40.0 20.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
w 416 128 320 128 0
w 416 304 320 304 0
s 320 128 320 304 0 1 true
d 496 144 496 288 1 0.805904783
w 496 288 416 256 0
w 416 128 496 144 0
o 2 64 1 291 7.62939453125E-5 9.765625E-5 0 -1
Now we are experiencing bemf, reverse emf, cemf. The coil has to be in a situation that it has a choice, or given the ability to reverse its field after the first collapse by not being loaded in any way during the first collapse until reversal happens.
So we can get a reverse field by going this route. The Ossie motor circuit configuration allows for the coils to continue their induced(from source, reeds closed) direction of current through the diodes configuration. Only when both reeds are opened.
Here we allow the first collapse to happen within the coil with no load, and the field reverses causing current on the opposite direction.
Here is code for an example of a relay coil with a diode across it to keep the collapse current from escaping the coil when the source is released. As you can see, the coils collapse produces a continued current flow without reversal..
$ 1 4.9999999999999996E-6 10.20027730826997 50 5.0 50
w 416 304 320 304 0
s 320 128 320 304 0 1 true
v 320 128 416 128 0 0 40.0 5.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
l 416 128 416 304 0 1.0 0.02340281261918754
w 416 304 464 304 0
w 416 128 464 128 0
d 464 304 464 128 1 0.805904783
This is a classic situation, and there is no bemf, only continued forward emf.
Larskos circuit is definitely a bemf, cemf, reverse emf situation. Not a typical circuit.
So in a perfect situation, larskos circuit, timed properly will put back everything used from the source. In a not so perfect world there will be voltage divisions causing losses in the circuit. But then we have to add what is generated from the magnets on the rotor, like in Ossies motor. Those large mags are generating something. And he said it charged batteries while running.
I have to think on this some more.
The reversal of field in this situation is interesting. Lets say the coil is in attraction to pull the mag towards it with the reed closed, then we open the reed just after the TDC magnet pass. With Larskos circuit, will there be a reversal of the coils field to now push the magnet away after being pulled when the reed was closed? ;] Something to think about.
This may produce additional drive to the motor, while sending current back to the battery. We can use all the advantages we can get in this business. ;]
Mags
Wow great work Mags. On my third read I'm beginning to understand. :)
Here is the waveform I was getting back then when I found the optimal timing. The spikes are the reeds triggering and the wave is been generated from the mag spin, if that helps. This is the ossie motor I ran for a week on a d cell at around 300rpm
Hi Gang.
After the Pyramid Power fiasco, I walked away from Free Energy
for a while in disgust but........This little Italian device caught my eye!
Don't give up on the original Italian device. Download the PDF's
translate and look at the drawings. A heck of a lot of work for a "Joke".
I feel it has possibilities.
I'm waiting for some MuMetal and NC reed switches. I have already
proved to my satisfaction that the basic magnetic loop/circuit works
as advertized. With fields, voltages and phasing correct, the LED's will
fire with just a slow rocking movement of the rotor at the
opening of the contact after TDC! Now to make the EM loop tight enough to increase
the current in the loop to overcome
the drag, losses, etc. We shall see. There are several folk working
on this that are not posting that are very very good at this.
Will it work? Don't know yet but I have eaten crow so often in the
pass I'm not saying anything else till I know and or can show.
The replication that Stephan discusses is so far different in its basic construction, so poorly coupled
magnetically, I don't see how it could work without external input. The gentleman that built it
has in the past been very reliable, I can't figure out why he would fake it! I'm not sure it is faked or
he started out to fake it, but will take him at his word.
A picture of my basic motor with no wiring, no intra-coil coupling from several days ago is attached.
You only learn by building. It is a quickly thrown together test rig. This has to be disassembled and redone when mumetal arrives, etc. But
was a great testbed to get my head straight as to what was actually going on electrically.
The fun continues.
Ben K4ZEP
Mag
hope this will be with your approval. :-\
I see we are posting here a subjet started by Jimboot (reply No 100) that is also treated in other thread (Larsko´s magnet motor etc etc )started by Jeffc
I suggest to all, to post there as it is not the main subject here. Not only to avoid info dispersed, but also as a respect gesture to Magluvin.
cheers
Alvaro
@ Hello Ben K4ZEP, a few questions concerning your set up (photo in your post above):
- The red cylinders left an right, I guess they are coils?
- Why the ring magnets, would disk or cylinder magnets work as well? May be with horizontally oriented coils?
- The thing in the middle (carrying the two ring magnets), is it a motor? I guess it is just a way to fix the ring magnets so they can rotate, or will you use the motor as a drive means?
I have similar parts in my collection of leftover things; coils from relays, motors from hard disk drives, DC motors, various bearings and axles; no ring magnets, but some very good cylinder/disk neodymium magnets.
Greetings, Conrad
Quote from: ALVARO_CS on April 13, 2012, 01:34:10 PM
Mag
hope this will be with your approval. :-\
I see we are posting here a subjet started by Jimboot (reply No 100) that is also treated in other thread (Larsko´s magnet motor etc etc )started by Jeffc
I suggest to all, to post there as it is not the main subject here. Not only to avoid info dispersed, but also as a respect gesture to Magluvin.
cheers
Alvaro
Me bad, will go over to the Larsko's thread and answer the question.
Ben K4ZEP
Yes, you can post here about it. It is of the same principals. Magnets, coils, motor, battery, no battery, reeds and leds. All the same ingredients. ;]
Just got home from work. Guna fiddle for a while tonight.
mags
Ive posted my complaints in Larskros last vid on YT. No answers from him, but there was a OUathiest there that tries to discount my posts as If Im nuts.
We dont know for sure what is real or not anymore with it. His first circuit works, with battery recharge, then he posts a new circuit as if the first was wrong, that also will work, but always just consumes from the battery, even when the switch is open and the led is lit, current is draining the battery.
So why the new revised edition of the fake circuit? What was supposedly wrong with the first?
So I am going to incorporate his first circuit into my drive section of my motor. Using his circuit and replacing the battery with a cap of proper size for decent drive and recharge the cap after the reed opens. Then the gen side charging system only has to replace what recharge didt fulfill. This should be a huge savings on the gen section.
I may sound like a nut about Larskros deal, but dangit, why are all my questions legit?
He says he doesnt want to pull the coil apart as its too much trouble. Well its going to be trouble when he has to replace them batteries.
And how does he recharge them? through the 5ohm res and the resistance of the coil? Will that impede charging from a smart charger? Or would it work just fine? Does he remove the leds for charging due to charge voltage may be able to conduct through the leds? Come on man. If he really doesnt want to take it apart, did he not think of these things? I would think someone of his skills would make the batteries replaceable. Thin plastic tube. Removable cap. Bang Bang, fooling people for many years.
So yeah, I might be thinkin he has a working no battery motor and now is saying otherwise and is getting caught up in a bad sense of creativity in explaining how it is a fake. Tripping up on details.
In the 2nd vid showing the battery, he tilts the motor up on its side showing the top view. He spins it one direction CW and the leds barely lit, but CCW they are nice and bright. I can show this right now, without a battery. With a battery, the led intensity is the same CW or CCW.
Today, I just keep finding good reasons to believe the way I do at this moment. Just too much weird compared to reality going on.
Mags
Amazing Magnet Motor_Gen part 2. - YouTube
fake... ??? ?
Hi,
I know I am taking a bit chance here as most comments about Mike Brady has been quite rude and negative but here goes.......
I need some assistance from those willing to help provide information ONLY.....
.
I am not sure if you actually know my dad (Michael Brady- Perendev) or are friends with him, but I am trying to clear his name and not quite sure how to go about it. I believe he did not have a fair trial and was not given the opportunity to present evidence etc. I have not seen my dad since 2009 and would really like to do my best to get him out of where he is currently. He does not deserve this and is not guilty.
If you have any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated as well as advise how you are linked to him, maybe if you are a good friend of his you can help.
I know this is like attempting find a needle in a haystack but nevertheless I have to try.
Thank you for reading
Jackie Sasso
Daughter of Michael Brady
Please tell us what happened to Mr Brady.
What are they accusing him of?
Thanks.
.
Hi
He was accused of Embezzlement, however he has written to me in absolute detail to explain that this is not true but everyone just wants to see the motor working, he has a working motor but was not given the opportunity in court to prove this, the lawyer that handled his case was assigned by the court and had no interest in assisting my dad. The trial was in German and my dad's understanding of German was basic so not sure exactly what was said, he was not afforded a translator. He was not afforded the opportunity to provide any documentation nothing.
He has applied for an appeal and was denied etc.
He has served half his sentence and has applied for half sentence - not sure of the outcome yet.
He just wants his name cleared and prove his innocence, hence me requesting information from people who knew him but so far I have not yet gotten any.
Thanks
Jackie
Sorry to hear about that. I used to see posts concerning his magnet motors, but that's all I know.
Click on the Link below to see more.
http://www.overunity.com/9160/belongins-of-mike-brady-perendev-for-sale/msg241047/#msg241047 (http://www.overunity.com/9160/belongins-of-mike-brady-perendev-for-sale/msg241047/#msg241047)
.
Don't you remember that he claimed that secret customers of his had working units installed and running? It would have been ridiculously easy for him to prove his claims if that had been true. He had ample opportunity to show a working model, many times. Just read the pages on Brady at PESN. Even Sterling doesn't believe in him.
If you are really his daughter, I feel sorry for you, because evidently he is trying to pull the wool over your eyes too, being the natural-born conman that he is. Where is a working model that demonstrates the validity of his claims? There is none and there never has been one. What did the people get, who paid him money for his promises? Nothing.
My advice to you is to just let him serve his time, and hope that he has learned his lesson.
Or, if you _really_ want to help, have him tell you where the "working model" is, and then _you_ demonstrate that it works as he claims. That would be great, I'd even pay money to see that. (The price of a theater ticket, not more.)