magnet increase back emf and lower amperage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8asKJNYJIY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8asKJNYJIY)
Steven Mark said that magnets are not needed for tpu operation. Study the interactions betweenmagnets and intermodulation products.
Cheers,
Bruce
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on August 30, 2012, 09:49:08 AM
Steven Mark said that magnets are not needed for tpu operation. Study the interactions betweenmagnets and intermodulation products.
Cheers,
Bruce
I would say that too....if i want to hide billion dollar secret from someone else.......
NO!
It's all bullshit.
The google streetview car drove by that demo mansion a second time and it made even better pictures then before, revealing the true source of power!
Quote from: ionizer on August 30, 2012, 10:22:47 AM
NO!
It's all bullshit.
The google streetview car drove by that demo mansion a second time and it made even better pictures then before, revealing the true source of power!
LOL, I guess the engineer reports by REAL engineers, tested at THEIR facilities, and those engineers were all duped... Like I said... LOL
P.S. All of the engineering reports are in the public domain.
Cheers,
Bruce
Well Bruce which part is it that you do not understand?
It's a well done scam.
Obviously the thing produced REAL power, so yes these engineering reports are real too.
But it's NOT the free unlimited energy you are looking for.
It's the same power that is comming from your wall outlet so go easy on the LOL part okay.
There was a guy that did notice the overhead powerlines when he looked out the window.
And SM did say it worked like common radio in one way.
But this is a radio placed in a VERY strong fieldstrength which can be calculated by inverse square law.
Did you ever calculate the amount of energy available to the coils when they are properly tuned and placed at distance X from those gigawatt lines?
I hope you still LOL the day you find out your 3 frequency's are useless.
Quote from: ionizer on August 30, 2012, 11:19:54 AM
Well Bruce which part is it that you do not understand?
It's a well done scam.
Obviously the thing produced REAL power, so yes these engineering reports are real too.
But it's NOT the free unlimited energy you are looking for.
It's the same power that is comming from your wall outlet so go easy on the LOL part okay.
There was a guy that did notice the overhead powerlines when he looked out the window.
And SM did say it worked like common radio in one way.
But this is a radio placed in a VERY strong fieldstrength which can be calculated by inverse square law.
Did you ever calculate the amount of energy available to the coils when they are properly tuned and placed at distance X from those gigawatt lines?
I hope you still LOL the day you find out your 3 frequency's are useless.
Sorry but you are wrong - it is not nearly strong enough to account for the energy SM showed being generated. They also did tests far from any power lines. IIRC one was even done in an airplane.
Quote from: e2matrix on August 30, 2012, 01:07:09 PM
Sorry but you are wrong - it is not nearly strong enough to account for the energy SM showed being generated. They also did tests far from any power lines. IIRC one was even done in an airplane.
Nope it can do 1000 Watts EASY just like the big 17"unit.
Saying i am wrong isn't enough.
I got the calculations somewhere.
I have never seen a unit running on a airplane have you?
Or even a unit running outside the demo location?
I haven't have you?
Reports can be made up easy.
Fact is:
All vids were done close to these lines and the calculations show it is possible.
Quote from: Qwert on August 30, 2012, 01:47:05 PM
Where?
On one of my older computers.
Along with a fellow researcher i did these calculations a long time ago.
I looked up that specific powerline traject and the amount of energy it carries, it's frequency and the distance between the lines and the demo unit things like that.
1 Kilowatt seems like a lot of power but it is nothing compared to the energy rushing along those lines.
The amount that can be picked up in near field drops very rapidly with distance, but we found these units to be close enough to make such demonstrations possible.
To give you an idea these specific lines carry 5000000 Watt on average.
And that is only meters away from these devices.
No matter 1 meter or 1000. If device is close-looped properly only milliwats are required to overcome pure resistance looses of wires. Check JackNoskills thread it very much explains how kicks are converted into sinewave and then merge in phase (?) with input current, then power source does not see load.
No this is like spacing the primary from the secondary coils.
Anybody who has done this knows that power output of the secondary drops real fast when it is spaced further way from the primary.
The difference here is the levels of power involved.
It means that the two centimeter on your test bench become 20 meter to play with outside around a powerline traject like that.
Kicks are always converted into sinewave by capacitance.
The power source does see the load at all times there is no magic situation where circuits start powering theirselves because the primary does not see the secondary it does not work like that.
That's nonsense you will always see a powersource and the loading of it when you take energy from the secondary.
@DreamYear,
You must be on to something. They are trying to derail your thread.
Hi DY,
Is there a circuit diagram for the second part of that video ?
Penno
Quote from: penno64 on August 30, 2012, 05:40:57 PM
Hi DY,
Is there a circuit diagram for the second part of that video ?
Penno
you can use boost converter or jouel thief circuit diagram....
Whever you have some spare time dive onto google streetview and follow those power lines.
You will soon find your 3 frequency's and why exactly 3 coils is so important.
And perhaps then 'slightly out of (3)phase' may also start to mean something new to you.
Quote from: ionizer on August 30, 2012, 08:48:41 PM
Whever you have some spare time dive onto google streetview and follow those power lines.
You will soon find your 3 frequency's and why exactly 3 coils is so important.
And perhaps then 'slightly out of (3)phase' may also start to mean something new to you.
power line use 50hz....frequency is too low to send wireless.... already been debunked in myth buster..
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Quote from: dreamyear on August 30, 2012, 09:14:49 PM
power line use 50hz....frequency is too low to send wireless.... already been debunked in myth buster..
Actually it is not.
If it were then no single transformer would output power on the secondary.
The coupling is established though moving magnetic field lines.
That is wireless and it is why radio communication works in the first place.
I suppose DC with a slight frequency also doesn't mean anything to you.
Maybe you should just stick with a joule thief.
I don't know
Quote from: ionizer on August 30, 2012, 02:30:02 PM
No this is like spacing the primary from the secondary coils.
Anybody who has done this knows that power output of the secondary drops real fast when it is spaced further way from the primary.
The difference here is the levels of power involved.
It means that the two centimeter on your test bench become 20 meter to play with outside around a powerline traject like that.
Kicks are always converted into sinewave by capacitance.
The power source does see the load at all times there is no magic situation where circuits start powering theirselves because the primary does not see the secondary it does not work like that.
That's nonsense you will always see a powersource and the loading of it when you take energy from the secondary.
I know a guy living near the Big Tower high tension line. A line tech said the power in that line was over 400KV . The fellow had a tin roof shed off to the side of his house . I would say about a 150 feet from the power line but 50 feet from directly under the tall structure . I was installing a satellite dish on the building and it shocked the hell out of me . I could see sparks from the dish mount which had a ground wire . I came back a few days later and the sat receiver was fried . I happed to have a Fluorescent lantern light i used under houses and took the 12 inch bulb out and touched the tin . it light up brightly . I had to move that dish to another location on the other side of the property 100's of feet away .. later about two months i rode by and shed was gone and stopped in to check the system . The Owner told me he kept getting shocked touching the doorknob which was on a metal pull up door. So with that in mind i wish i lived there because i would make the biggest secondary i could afford and run my house from EM ..More Examples are here on discovery where people "steal electricity" from under those lines..)http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9701967776/m/32119084801
Not saying this is how the SM TPU worked or whatever but i have experienced tremendous potential first hand.400kv is certainly enough EMF to capture on the ground and be useful .. I wonder why Sm never showed a CLEAR BULB . the frosted ones in any free energy experiment are easily faked . also the Voltage from My Ring running on a c cell puts out over 130vac runs for 2 days . I could easily hide a watch battery on it and it would appear to run by it self . Also a mercury switch on it so when i flip it to turn off in the future . Runs many strings of christmas bulbs or any 110 vac led lamp bulb in a standard base unmodified .or any plug in small charger.. also runs up to 7 watts of incandescent bulbs .. I will make another video with the table lamps and the string of 20 incandescent christmas bulbs ..
Again Not saying this is the SM Tpu but it would not be that hard to fake.plus the fact that why hold on to something like that from us for so long . Everyone here knows just a few could build one and use it for themselves IF IT WAS REAL..Just sayin...
http://youtu.be/UOPfqsH6_-U (http://youtu.be/UOPfqsH6_-U)
Gadget
[quote author=dreamyear link=topic=12645.msg334193#msg334193 date=1346375742]
'' power line use 50hz....frequency is too low to send wireless.... already been debunked in myth buster..
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(MythBusters are idiots-they couldn't even make a simple bedini run for more than a minute on a car battery-give me a break) on the other hand magnets do increase intensity . I use them on a toroidal power unit i built . Its not the same as the claimed SM TPU . this is more like a low powered inverter .. also i use a Darlington and special windings to obtain Ac wave. it does produce 7 watts 130vac from 1.2 volts dc
Quote from: gadgetmall on August 30, 2012, 10:31:41 PM
Quote from: dreamyear on August 30, 2012, 09:15:42 PM
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(MythBusters are idiots-they couldn't even make a simple bedini run for more than a minute on a car battery-give me a break)
Yeah, I wouldnt rely on Myth busters for solid proofs of everything.
The one where they made a huge subwoofer that was driven by the drive shaft in a station wagon, was just way off course. It was to see if windows would blow out, like big stereo guys claim.
Well, I did that stuff for a living till it died out. I been to datona spring break nationals with vehicles with 1.5in plexi bolted in as a windshield for a reason. 40,000 watt reasons and 40 10in woofers. And a brinks truck with 60 15 in subs!! 1kw each. I think it had 6 or 8 alternators. Ive done 5kw with stock alternators and 50 farad cap and 1 Optima yellow top batt. Best to increase the size of the stock wire coming from the alternator to the battery to 4awg and add a 4awg gnd wire also from the chassis of the alt to the - of the bat, both direct, and big fuse on the + close to the batt, 18in max from the batt, by IASCA rules. Alternators sample the ign switch(relay these days) for regulation. If the voltage at the sampling point is not solid(due to too much boom boom voltage drops) the alt is pushed harder, and that thin stock wire isnt gunna deliver, running around that hot engine, causing more unnecessary voltage drops. ;] And the alt will fail soon if pushed due to failure to get solid sampling because of thin wires used on the output of the alt. lol. Anyways, many use multiple alternators unnecessarily.
That woofer myth busters made didnt even have a tuned cavity to work with, where these guys are tuned to 40 up to 100hz. And just burping it. BOOOOP!! No sense in running it any longer than that, as depleting the battery/source happens as soon as the burp begins, and so does output. Playing it longer will get ya no where.
Interesting show, but not always rock solid.
MaGs
another piece of the puzzle.."..he first became aware of these strange surges early in his career,as he sat through the long nights, his car headlights "glued" to a silent set of telephone lines...".THe early telephone lines are made of IRON wire.can be the currents phonic generate the conversion process??http://keelynet.com/energy/moray1.htm (http://keelynet.com/energy/moray1.htm)
@ionizer,
You creep joined this forum the moment this thread started. You have posted 7 times. All in this thread and all to distract.
There are certain words that I want to write about you but the forum rules doesn't allow it. Clearly you have nothing constructive to contribute. Go play somewhere else.
@gadget
Hello,
Just to show how easy a TPU is to fake you should use a small watch battery (as you said) so it looks like the real thing.
Quote from: stprue on August 31, 2012, 07:41:18 AM
@gadget
Hello,
Just to show how easy a TPU is to fake you should use a small watch battery (as you said) so it looks like the real thing.
ok..BUT i don't want to mislead anyone . God knows i have been hammered to death on the JT ou thing a few years ago by PL .. I know pont99 did do extensive research later on a standard jt anomalously artifact and found thru extensive calculations to be 101% efficient in one example .... i will Hide the power source on my ring when i have some time to go buy a 1.5 volt watch battery . All i have at the moment are lithium buttons and i don't want to blow my only cool ring .. I had to cover it in latex because it was trying to short out on 1.2 , It would fry on 3 volts . to make it look real i need a mercury switch and a modified frosted incandescent light bulb also . If you look in the sm video i noticed the bulb goes out to quick . a regular filament take a second to cool down and that is why i asked why not show a clear bulb instead . the other think is i could also put a small incandescent bulb inside of a 60 watt frosted bulb and Make it appear that is really is a 60 watt bulb with the filament decay delay . I am not a faker .and i want it to be real ..just sayin..
Gadget
PS :what is with this board . it keeps deleting the quote BB code !!!!
Quote from: MasterPlaster on August 31, 2012, 07:28:52 AM
@ionizer,
You creep joined this forum the moment this thread started. You have posted 7 times. All in this thread and all to distract.
There are certain words that I want to write about you but the forum rules doesn't allow it. Clearly you have nothing constructive to contribute. Go play somewhere else.
You can modify your profile setting so that his posts are not viewable to you.
Maybe someone should just make a new thread "Fake TPU Replications"
That could be fun :o
Soon I will be attempting to replicate V8carlo's transformer which in my mind functions kind of like a weak TPU. Should be interesting/fun.
Quote from: stprue on August 31, 2012, 08:07:49 AM
Soon I will be attempting to replicate V8carlo's transformer which in my mind functions kind of like a weak TPU. Should be interesting/fun.
mine is a spin off of jeannas light .. used a very expensive ring and winded different and used a large darlington .It also has Neos on a certain point . It has given us light thru hurricanes and power outages and lit Christmas trees :) Sometimes i turn it on in my room cause i'm scared of the dark:)I have several New Led Bulbs with 40 watts of light lumens ..they are all clear though..
Sounds like a great cct. It's always gratifying when projects are actually usable for something.
Exactly! My point on the Sm TPU is i saw nothing i could not replicate in a video with stuff from that era.. If the Bulbs were clear it would have made all the difference in his demo.and as far as scope shots ..well i do have a frequency / voltage gen close to a dual trace data scope.
I suppose i could wind another BIG ring i have . Its price was over 400 dollars but i got it free.. and run it with 3volts and use a hefty darlington pair , i bet i could light an incandescent 40 watt clear bulb (fridge or oven light) BUT they take a whole lot of time and Patience .. Something i am running out of .
Also if you wanted to "trick" someone they make flat poly batteries now and inverters for your cig plug that are no bigger than the plug itself that can do that off 12 v you could take it apart and shape it in a big ring ... i don't really want to fake it. I would rather have what i have something useful . .
Gadget
$400 ring? Is it a metglass or something?
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$400 ring? Is it a metglass or something?
they came from Magnetics in Spain. i lost the specs in My move to new home but it was the highest perm they had ..not sure ..Heres a pic compared to the one i used inside of it and a little famous 5 for a dollar goldmine in the center . I do remember i had all of them except one annealed and coated if that means anything . My memory is not that great and they have been stored for years until now.
Gadget
Wow, those are nice looking. Have you wound them with litz yet? I wish I had one of those for my V8carlo replication! I will be using one of the old large cores used in the jeanna light.
Quote from: MasterPlaster on August 31, 2012, 07:28:52 AM
@ionizer,
You creep joined this forum the moment this thread started. You have posted 7 times. All in this thread and all to distract.
There are certain words that I want to write about you but the forum rules doesn't allow it. Clearly you have nothing constructive to contribute. Go play somewhere else.
No.
one more note and i am bowing out .I did not mean to hijack this thread sir . I saw some relevant info and responded like i always do ..with two left feet .. Does anyone know what happened to fabled SM ring . It would be nice to let a tech here borrow it for private evaluation only . The guy could stand right there with it if he chose to with it so it;s not reverse engineered . I know there are far smarter Keen EE people here i respect and would love for them to see "IT" in action .Those whom i speak of are the TPU Elite members who have spent years working on these things and saw interesting things .I am a mere peon in the scope of things and don't want to be put on a pedestal.. what i have done was only because of you and my heros in the jule thief thread who are all great experimenters.We just love makin lectricity and sharing the crap :) \I admit i made a little money off some of these things but i am a single disabled dad and really needed a few extra dollars to get by .No one else did it and it was useful to both parties .....well theres IST;) another chapter ..What happened to him ?is he in jail or a mental institution?sorry.. this place ain't the same with out his rants 8) Geez
Mannix ? are you the man ?
see ya
Gadget
Magnets are good for coils . put them in the right spots and there is an input current reduction ..
Yes magnets can raise the frequency and saturation levels of the cores, which can reduce current draw. They also serve as a tuning tool.
I found something silly and strange also. :P Please don't laugh !
Take a hard wire and wind an air core coil of just few turns. Take coil horizontally in hands and check the direction of windings from left and right side of coil just following the curvature of coil by finger.
Now, place that coil vertically and do the same.
Okay, Checked Vertically and horizontally, and ... ?
Perhaps the secret of Stephen in the waves?
And if you are not adept in mathematics
This page presents a visual and descriptive lesson
About halfway down you see a superposition graph
Which pretty much says it all.
http://study.com/academy/lesson/constructive-and-destructive-interference.html (http://study.com/academy/lesson/constructive-and-destructive-interference.html)
I have a discovery that might or might not be what Steven Marks did, but it involves alternating a bunch of series connected coils between 2 rings, shown here, with the coils offset and another version with the wire between them offset.
Of course I show this as a closed loop which it does not need to be.
This form of winding will create a rotational aether vortex in each ring, one clock wise the other CCW.
If both of these were wound in series on one ring the 2 vortexes would be opposing and cancel, but alternating between each ring, it rectifies the effect.
Note: The lead length between each coil should be constant and as short as possible, each coil should be identical.
John