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Title: Hydro-Electric Reactor (Coger international)
Post by: ashtweth_nihilisti on October 10, 2012, 12:07:38 AM
Guys not sure , may be fake dont know , its
patented, please take a look

Patent
http://www.google.com/patents/US20110048008?printsec=drawing&dq=Gabriel+Ohiochoy\
a+Obadan&ei=-hJxUKieGIj3igKmnoFo#v=onepage&q&f=false (http://www.google.com/patents/US20110048008?printsec=drawing&dq=Gabriel+Ohiochoya+Obadan&ei=-hJxUKieGIj3igKmnoFo#v=onepage&q&f=false)

Device
http://www.cogarinternationalenergy.com/index.php (http://www.cogarinternationalenergy.com/index.php)
video
http://www.cogarinternationalenergy.com/prototype-demonstration.php (http://www.cogarinternationalenergy.com/prototype-demonstration.php)

The patent describes how its proprietary technology compresses ambient air in
several stages to drive micro-turbines. The compressed air passes through a Jet
Propulsion Corridor. It intersects with the turbines which are semi-circular
bucket shaped with internal and external flanges. The turbines drive shafts
attached to the generators that produce the electricity. Exhaust compressed air
gets recycled back into the unit through a pressurized air conduit in a
continuous feedback loop.Mr. Obadan is described as a scientist, inventor and
divinity. On the company website it states that he has broken three major laws
of physics.He has created a machine that can run perpetually once primed without
any additional external power source .a "perpetual motion machine."He has
demonstrated that the law of thermodynamics can be broken by showing that less
energy can create more sustainable energy, in fact in multiples well beyond the
initial energy input.He has broken Isaac Newton's axiom that every action leads
to an equal and opposite reaction because his reactor creates more of reaction
than the initial action.

Ash
Title: Re: Hydro-Electric Reactor (Coger international)
Post by: ashtweth_nihilisti on October 10, 2012, 12:10:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v7dwcM83Do&feature=related
Title: Re: Hydro-Electric Reactor (Coger international)
Post by: e2matrix on October 10, 2012, 07:59:30 PM
Wow!  Nice find Ash - they look ready to roll.  I see they even have prices on the bigger units and those prices seem to be much better than wind, solar, coal, nuclear or just about any other traditional methods of energy generation.
Title: Re: Hydro-Electric Reactor (Coger international)
Post by: ashtweth_nihilisti on October 10, 2012, 08:15:35 PM
I think they can make a 5kw unit check applications my friend
did i get that right?

WE SHOULD MAKE A ONLINE FORM WHERE PEOPLE CAN REQUEST THEIR GOVERNMENT USE THEIR TAX MONEY TO IMPLEMENT THIS FOR CHEAPER ELECTRICITY
OR HIDRO, OR BLACK LIGHT POWER (THEY ALREADY HAVE UNITS WORKING) ETC ETC

A activist group like AVAaz  HAS MILLIONS OF PEOP0-LE WHO SIGN THINGS AND HAS EVEN MADE THE UN ACT.


Title: Re: Hydro-Electric Reactor (Coger international)
Post by: Qwert on October 11, 2012, 08:47:31 AM
Quote from: e2matrix on October 10, 2012, 07:59:30 PM
Wow!  Nice find Ash - they look ready to roll.  I see they even have prices on the bigger units and those prices seem to be much better than wind, solar, coal, nuclear or just about any other traditional methods of energy generation.

Yes, they have prices: $5000.00 non-refundable just to get access to see demo video.
http://www.cogarinternationalenergy.com/pdr-form.php (http://www.cogarinternationalenergy.com/pdr-form.php)

More info:
http://www.overunity.com/12724/free-electric-multi-use-motor-home-gen-car-motor-boat-motor-lawn-mower/msg339959/#msg339959 (http://www.overunity.com/12724/free-electric-multi-use-motor-home-gen-car-motor-boat-motor-lawn-mower/msg339959/#msg339959)

edit:
Nigerian-style scam on American ground? >:(
Usually inventors start from small units, eventually claiming possibility to scale up. Here is massive prototype with scaling down claim. Why? Coz in larger one it's easier to hide more.
Title: Re: Hydro-Electric Reactor (Coger international)
Post by: JJUK on October 11, 2012, 09:05:07 AM
There is more than a passing similarity to this device that semenihin-77 posted on the Kapanadze thread:

http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg335303/#msg335303 (http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg335303/#msg335303)

I haven't got very far with my investigations unfortunately. I don't even know who the inventor is and semenihin-77 hasn't answered my PMs about the device. He must know something though as although there is another copy of the video on YouTube, I haven't been able to find the photos he included in his post. I've been running some basic tests with the Outwell Storm air pump http://www.outwell.com/en/Products/Accessories/Pumps/StormPump12V.aspx (http://www.outwell.com/en/Products/Accessories/Pumps/StormPump12V.aspx). I suppose I should really have bought the Intex one shown in the video but the Storm generates 750L/min air flow which I hoped would increase the chances of replication. I've not managed to find a suitable turbine as yet but I suspect something along the lines of the turbine in the Dyson vacuum cleaner heads might work:

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=dyson+turbine+head+turbo+brush&FORM=HDRSC2#x0y0 (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=dyson+turbine+head+turbo+brush&FORM=HDRSC2#x0y0)

Any thoughts as to something more suited to the task?
Title: Re: Hydro-Electric Reactor (Coger international)
Post by: ashtweth_nihilisti on October 11, 2012, 07:20:39 PM
What really throws me off is that they have a patent on this thing, that's why i want to look closer, that's an expensive scam if its really is fake...
Title: Re: Hydro-Electric Reactor (Coger international)
Post by: ashtweth_nihilisti on October 11, 2012, 07:22:08 PM
Hang on, the demo price goes towards the purchase of the unit..its prob done to only attract serious investors or people who could purchase..

  A refundable deposit of $100,000.00 (One Hundred Thousand U.S. Dollars) is required for the demonstration. This amount will be regarded as an advanced payment which will be applied to your purchase price for any product, rights or investments. Note: If the Hydro-Electric Reactor does not perform as claimed, the prospective business partner will be entitled to a refund of $100,000.00 (One Hundred Thousand U.S. Dollars) less 5% for administrative and engineering costs.

If, however, you cannot afford to pay the $100,000.00 Deposit, you can pay a non-refundable amount of $5,000.00 (Five Thousand U.S. Dollars) to cover the cost of your demonstration request.

The 5 Grand is for only those who could not afford the 100K, and want to just "see the thing" so lets gie an honest perspective.
I would not want people who could not afford it wasting my time how about you?Ash
Title: Re: Hydro-Electric Reactor (Coger international)
Post by: cristache on October 11, 2012, 11:38:20 PM
That's hilarious.
So I can pretend I have a device which is producing more energy than you put in. Just throw in $5k for a demonstration. If is now working as claimed, just bad for you, $5ks are mine.
Oh you have an option to make a $100k deposit and again if is not working I will retain 5% (again %5k)
Anybody interested?
Title: Re: Hydro-Electric Reactor (Coger international)
Post by: ashtweth_nihilisti on October 11, 2012, 11:46:20 PM
5K as they sate is ONLY for non purchase/investor , those that just want to see it, hence its  there for a reason, so you cant rule out its 100% scam based on that alone
patents (app)are  here
http://www.google.com/patents/US20110048008?printsec=drawing&dq=Gabriel+Ohiochoya+Obadan&ei=-hJxUKieGIj3igKmnoFo#v=onepage&q&f=false (http://www.google.com/patents/US20110048008?printsec=drawing&dq=Gabriel+Ohiochoya+Obadan&ei=-hJxUKieGIj3igKmnoFo#v=onepage&q&f=false)
http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=20110048008.PGNR (http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=20110048008.PGNR).

if you think its a scam so be it, but be accurate about it

Ash
Title: Re: Hydro-Electric Reactor (Coger international)
Post by: ashtweth_nihilisti on October 11, 2012, 11:51:46 PM
patent is pending i think as they class it as a perpetual motion device
http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/classification/uspc415/defs415.htm#C415S916000

look for the classification
Current U.S. Classification: 60/645 (http://www.google.com/url?id=W-ohAQAAEBAJ&q=http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/classification/uspc060/defs060.htm&usg=AFQjCNFUMA22nZTRD4hEkBsTu3JZTdQPMQ#C060S645000); 415/916 (http://www.google.com/url?id=W-ohAQAAEBAJ&q=http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/classification/uspc415/defs415.htm&usg=AFQjCNFYLSF5splM-J4en4HhXhsoQnfN4g#C415S916000)
Title: Re: Hydro-Electric Reactor (Coger international)
Post by: ashtweth_nihilisti on October 11, 2012, 11:58:22 PM
Article here
http://www.21stcentech.com/energy-update-startup-company-claims-generate-electricity-air/
people were at the press conference they did
Title: Re: Hydro-Electric Reactor (Coger international)
Post by: cristache on October 11, 2012, 11:58:38 PM
They sell  a 5Kw unit for $15k
Anybody willing to pay 5% for a failed demonstration?

Title: Re: Hydro-Electric Reactor (Coger international)
Post by: ashtweth_nihilisti on October 12, 2012, 12:01:06 AM
looks like they were busted for selling shares?
http://www.corp.ca.gov/ENF/pdf/c/cogarfinancial-DefaultJudgment.pdf (http://www.corp.ca.gov/ENF/pdf/c/cogarfinancial-DefaultJudgment.pdf)

That judgment is entered against defendants Cogar Financial Services, Inc., and Gabriel Obadan and in favor of the Department of Corporations in the amount of $ 1,000,000 (one million dollars) each for civil penalties authorized by Corporations Code section 25535 for violations of section 25110 of the Corporations Code for offering and selling unqualified nonexempt securities, section 25401 for failing to disclose or misrepresenting material facts with regard to the sale of those securities and for offers and sales in violation of a prior Desist and Refrain Order as alleged in the First Second and Third Causes of Action of the Complaint in the above captioned action
Title: Re: Hydro-Electric Reactor (Coger international)
Post by: Qwert on October 12, 2012, 10:15:30 AM
Looks like before he became an inventor, he was a securities defrauder. Make bussiness with him. Here is the code he violated:
http://www.corp.ca.gov/Codes/25110.asp (http://www.corp.ca.gov/Codes/25110.asp) >:(
Title: Re: Hydro-Electric Reactor (Coger international)
Post by: e2matrix on October 12, 2012, 11:19:38 AM
Quote from: ashtweth_nihilisti on October 12, 2012, 12:01:06 AM
looks like they were busted for selling shares?
http://www.corp.ca.gov/ENF/pdf/c/cogarfinancial-DefaultJudgment.pdf (http://www.corp.ca.gov/ENF/pdf/c/cogarfinancial-DefaultJudgment.pdf)

That judgment is entered against defendants Cogar Financial Services, Inc., and Gabriel Obadan and in favor of the Department of Corporations in the amount of $ 1,000,000 (one million dollars) each for civil penalties authorized by Corporations Code section 25535 for violations of section 25110 of the Corporations Code for offering and selling unqualified nonexempt securities, section 25401 for failing to disclose or misrepresenting material facts with regard to the sale of those securities and for offers and sales in violation of a prior Desist and Refrain Order as alleged in the First Second and Third Causes of Action of the Complaint in the above captioned action
I question if this is being done by the PTB as an underhanded maneuver to halt their attempt to get free energy out to the public?   Or is it because this inventor formerly worked in Nigeria (as seen in his resume) and he picked up some bad habits from there  ;)