Hi.
Some years ago I woke up to reality thanks to a 911 movie. Then I read about other topics like health, history, economy, free energy, etc.
I was so shocked reading about Tesla, Mooray, Mayers, etc that I decided to study mechanical engineering. I finished my studies this past summer. Now I am studying a research master in mechanical engineering with the idea of making a doctorate.
I still believe in free energy, though less and less meaning that now I think most ideas are worthless (campbell wheel, Joseph Newman, Gravity wheels, etc, etc).
But I believe is that we won't see a working free energy working product in ages. Probably never.
If someone really makes such a device he will be killed or otherwise neutralized.
We either change the world by removing the criminal elite running it or continue living in this corrupted system with no free energy at all. If you wanna know who is really running the show in the world search internet cause there is plenty of information (though plenty of disinfo agents like Alex Jones)
bugler,
times are changing faster now than ever. Free scientists today are extremely aware of the energy cartel and many of us are well prepared. Among many other things by being anonymous on the Internet using 1024 bit vpn tunnels from providers who erases their log daily.
I know there are several guys who have succeded in their endeavors and who today are preparing for disclosure, which is an intricate procedure if you want to get the invention out to the public and simultaneously keep alive.
Look at this news report from Denver. It is a good example of what is happening today. The inventor of this craft unfortunately will have to move somewhere else, since they now have confirmed he is ascending from a certain block in Denver, and I bet FBI is knocking door there right now.
http://kdvr.com/2012/11/08/mile-high-city-mystery-ufo-sightings-in-sky-over-denver/ (http://kdvr.com/2012/11/08/mile-high-city-mystery-ufo-sightings-in-sky-over-denver/)
You just can't imagine what some of us are up to these days.
Gwandau
There is one way to spread the free to the world, it was to discover a very simple ou device that can be easily to replicate even by high schooler and the parts can be readily get anywhere without the high cost.
Quote from: bugler on November 20, 2012, 02:48:13 PM
Hi.
Some years ago I woke up to reality thanks to a 911 movie. Then I read about other topics like health, history, economy, free energy, etc.
I was so shocked reading about Tesla, Mooray, Mayers, etc that I decided to study mechanical engineering. I finished my studies this past summer. Now I am studying a research master in mechanical engineering with the idea of making a doctorate.
I still believe in free energy, though less and less meaning that now I think most ideas are worthless (campbell wheel, Joseph Newman, Gravity wheels, etc, etc).
But I believe is that we won't see a working free energy working product in ages. Probably never.
If someone really makes such a device he will be killed or otherwise neutralized.
We either change the world by removing the criminal elite running it or continue living in this corrupted system with no free energy at all. If you wanna know who is really running the show in the world search internet cause there is plenty of information (though plenty of disinfo agents like Alex Jones)
You are right that we will not see a device, but not because of suppression, instead it is because OU effects are not observed. Forget about free energy products, focus on effects. In your study of mechanical engineering, what overunity effect have you observed? When has the law of conservation of energy been violated? Tesla never did it; no one has. Without such an effect, you have nothing for any device to exploit.
For example, gravity devices are just generally complicated arrangements of levers. When has a lever produced overunity. Etc.
Ah... Bugler... .thank you for opening this thread, and congratulations on your academic achievement and your future academic goals. I wish you the best of success.... and I think it's not possible for those who have not "been there" to fully understand the depth and breadth of the learning and experience you now have, and will gain in the future, due to your academic career.
Just in the last few posts you can already see the "line in the sand" being drawn between the two sides of this very polarizing issue. The side I'm on is, I think, pretty durn clear. But I'd like to ask your opinion of one recent system and set of claims that you might be able to help analyze, given your mechanical engineering education and background.
I'm talking about, of course, the Mister Wayne Travis's Hydro Differential Pressure Exchange with Rotary ZED gravity/buoyancy device, which he says will run itself with no input, producing usable power output, indefinitely. I don't know if you are already familiar with this system; there is a forum thread discussing it but I see it's dropped off the front page due to inactivity.... and most of the believers are engaged in a secret discussion group where skepticism isn't encouraged. Here's an animation illustrating how an earlier version of his system was supposed to work, running without any input, but turning a hydraulic motor running a generator from a windmill, making enough power to run its own electronic control system and leave enough left over for the usual bank of lights, etc. Mister Wayne says his device works, has been confirmed to work by independent replicators, flocks of engineers, and even the local Boy Scout troop.
http://mrwaynesbrain.com/
What do you think?
Also, on November 30, we are expecting the "rollout" of PJH's Quenco chips, which aren't exactly "free energy" because they run, it is said, on ambient heat.... without the need of a cooler sink, and will provide amazing power densities, so that you could power a cellphone with something not any larger than the current battery pack, but that would never never never run out of power or need recharging. I hope I'm stating the claims correctly, I'm sure PJH or someone will correct me if I am not... and probably insult me even if I am.
What do you think?
Does a device like this fit into your definition of something we won't have for ages? Because Nov 30 is just around the corner......
;)
I predict Bugler blames the jews.
Quote from: ARYANS POWER on November 21, 2012, 07:09:42 AM
It is not about Jews, mostly about War but also "ordinary" people with low, under 130 points, IQ level.
I had written so many times.
This devices as ours: http://www.overunity.com/12741/polish-cold-nuclear-fusion-reactors-new-topics/ (http://www.overunity.com/12741/polish-cold-nuclear-fusion-reactors-new-topics/)
can not be widespreaded because of they military purposes.
Cold Nuclear Fusion works in them as ignitor for full scale nuclear reaction.
The small amount of heat here is eqivalent to power of tachyons which ignite further "warm" nuclear reaction.
It is the whole truth about CNF that it can easily and cheap replace atomic ignitor in warheads.
Please compare cost difference:
1. todays nuclear warhead with 200 kT power it costs about 3.3 mlns USD.
2. device with similar power working upon CNF ignitor and heavy water against tritium costs some 3-4.000 USD.
And it don't needs costly maintenance every 6 years to fill up new tritium which was radiated during storage.
YOU FEEL THE DIFFERENCE NOW?
OK, Mr. White Power. Heil and all that. Whatever you say.
Record-breaking thread drift: one page, totally off topic already.
Hm.m.m.m.
Does this thread in and of itself prove "overunity"?? :) It took less than 1-page of "input" to completely re-direct and resonate with "other/outside" forces . . . . . ;D
truesearch
So as a new member here I have to ask the simple and highly obvious question of this. ;D
Is there or are there any working buildable schematics and blueprints plus materials and parts lists for any form of replicateable OU devices that can be built with actual known and purchasable (IE no mystery metals/components/etc) off the shelf items, parts, and materials to be found here on this site or,.....
just a bunch more conspiracy nuts and "I heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from a guy at the parts counter of the local auto parts store that some guy a few towns over has one in his garage." so it must be real stories.
BTW my IQ is around 150+ (Mensa rating) and I have well stocked and equipped fabrication shops for electrical, mechanical, milling, welding, design and fabrication and I am not dirt poor either so can probably hack it on the DIY aspect. ;) :P
Just asking before I waste too much time here. ::)
Hello TinselKoala and the rest.
I don't pretend to know a lot. University is far from perfect. I do my best. But the more I know about mechanics the less I believe in mechanical devices I used to believe (Chas Campbell, etc).
Quote from: TinselKoala on November 20, 2012, 11:34:47 PMMister Wayne says his device works, has been confirmed to work by independent replicators, flocks of engineers, and even the local Boy Scout troop.http://mrwaynesbrain.com/ (http://mrwaynesbrain.com/)[/size]
What do you think?
It is a rather complex system. Hard to know at a glance. Is there documentation about it?
if this has been replicated we should see the videos of the machines themselves and not drawings. Where are they?
Quote from: TinselKoala on November 20, 2012, 11:34:47 PM
Also, on November 30, we are expecting the "rollout" of PJH's Quenco chips, which aren't exactly "free energy" because they run, it is said, on ambient heat....
This is exactly what I mean. Let's wait Nov 30th 2012 and nothing will happen. Then Nov. 30th 2013 will come and nothing and nothing. Never ending story of coming free energy devices.
@Bugler: all information about the Hydro device is what is on the website I linked, in his patent application, and in the forum thread on this forum discussing the "hydro differential pressure exchange over unity system" ... which had dropped off the front page for a while because all or most of the believers have removed their discussions from public view. (But is active again, with a typical announcement from MrWayne). To participate in their secret discussion group you have to email them and get an invitation to join their not-so-open-source project discussion. Skeptics are not allowed to express skeptical views and if you are known as a skeptic you will not even get an invitation.
There is a slide show on the website showing what they claim to be a large "self runner"... but reading carefully we find MrWayne admitting that the longest observed run for this large machine of theirs (or any other) has been under four hours.
He has also claimed that a system that will provide power to "run a house" will have a footprint the size of a "toolshed". Using gravity and buoyancy and weightshifting alone. However, I have calculated that 20 kW of mechanical power is the rough equivalent of a 30 foot high waterfall flowing at a rate of 58 gallons per second. (Please correct me if I've misplaced a decimal or something.) That's a lot of water and gravity sloshing around in a toolshed. No matter what kind of internal efficiencies he's claiming (lately it has been 960 percent, and now even more) he still must deliver that much mechanical power to the shaft of his ordinary 20 kW generator; all of his claimed overunity effects happen upstream from the ordinary hydraulic motor turning the ordinary generator: something must be supplying hydraulic fluid to the motor at more than 20 kW of mechanical power-- call it 30 horsepower minimum -- , if his claim of a 20kW output unit is true.
I am particularly interested in this case because of his claims, but also because he's got systems built, has actually sent money to at least one of his "replicators" for building a ... something.... out of discarded tennis ball packaging tubes and glue... two thousand dollars was awarded for this build of what is apparently a demonstrator of a simple principle.... and he has the patent application, claims to have convinced many outside engineers of his veracity, and has even had a site visit from the travelling "skeptic" Mark Dansie.... who has been waiting for some time now for a re-invite to see the full Monty, so to speak. This re-invite visit has been promised and promised and put off many times.
The thread includes a video from Dansie's previous (and only, I think) site visit, showing a system "running". The video is short, Mister Wayne has told us that that particular version had no output generator, and it's clearly very unbalanced during the short video....
So I'd very much like to see what a qualified mechanical engineer actually _does_ think about Mister Wayne's system... since none of the engineers he says have seen it, are talking (they cannot, of course, because everyone who actually sees his system must sign an NDA....)
But of course you probably have more interesting time-wasters on your agenda, but the MisterWayne story does have some unique elements that are puzzling and relatively intriguing. Like the involvement of the local Boy Scouts......
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Quote from: ARYANS POWER on November 21, 2012, 08:33:28 AM
Low, low, low IQ.
Probably under 80.
Does black power produce as much energy as white power, or is white power more efficient?
You've got to give them credit though, at least they are trying to find a way to obtain free energy, instead of resting on the side and saying that it just must be too hard or impossible to do so we shouldn't even try.
i do today what others won't... so that tomorrow i can do what others can't.
Quote from: TinselKoala on November 21, 2012, 03:13:06 PM
@Bugler: all information about the Hydro device is what is on the website I linked, .....
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Thanks for the effort and time to answer me.
Right now I don't have the time to study that device (anyway I would have to be invited to the forum for that).
What I am saying is that even if this device is for real we won't see it ever. Something will happen in the way to production and it will never make it to the market. It is the eternal story.
What is happening with Ismael Aviso who can create electricity out of coil shorttening? Nothing
What about cold fusion (read peswiki) that in 2012 would be commercially available? Nothing
Etc, etc, etc.
I am not saying there is no way to get free energy. I think Tesla, Mooray and some others made it. I am saying even if possible we won't see it. This hydro project, if real, will be infiltrated and destroyed somehow.
The wealthiest family (Rothschild) are stimated to have a fortune between 100-500 trillion. They are so rich they don't even pay a dime for their house as they live in national places so everything is taken care by the tax-payers (search Evelyn de Rothschil). They have desinged the current crisis, the WW wars, terrorism, etc,etc and most people insult you when you talk about it cause they are completely maniipulated by the media and Hollywood. Most people still don't know that 911 was a mossad op. They will prevent for ever free energy.
We first need to get rid of them and then we can have a better world including free energy.
nothing is more amusing than a fascist loser with delusions of grandeur...
thanks for the belly laughs at your expense AP.
Well, sorry to break up the party, but apparently 'free energy' has just been discovered by J Valdez.
It is a very basic apparatus involving a few cans of aribicas beans and an enema hose.
You make some very good points bugler. Presuming that you are correct about the vested interest situation, then considering the not inconsiderable risk that someone with the 'key' would expose themselves to by coming here and open sourcing their work, you would hope that the members would grant them a warm welcome and a fair hearing.
Have you thought about what you might expect if this ever did happen? (full open source disclosure of OU) From the point of view of the material itself, and how it would be received. Allow me to postulate:
Since the material itself will be non-conventional (otherwise it could not produce OU) then as regards comprehension (of the material) it might just as well come from, say, aliens from another world. In which case you might expect a bit of a struggle to comprehend it.
As a result of this you can also expect a majority of members to reject the material out of hand, since most people react badly to someone apparently talking nonsense.
The individual presenting (actually gifting) the material is very likely to come across as somewhat arrogant and also ignorant or at least cavalier in their handling of conventional physics. The latter due to a superior knowledge, the former simply an artifact of their confidence in the material conflicting with a general perception by the members that the individual makes claims which seem to be in error.
Also we must not necessarily expect that this individual will posses all the skills and resources necessary to first discover the key, then design and further build a device which takes advantage of it in order to validate their work. We should rather expect or even demand a documentation of the material in which each element may be held up for scrutiny and tested independently by those in the community with the required skills and resources.
So we could expect that such an event would by reason of it's own convolution require a longer period of time to become recognisable for what it was; that additional period only increasing the level of risk to the author of the work, which if he or she were intelligent enough to hold the key to OU would by reason of that wisdom be fully aware of such increased risk, and so would need a steady hand, total commitment to advancing the work and a considerable reserve of patience.
This is much to ask of any one individual; that they would fall under attack by those not given to accepting new paradigms is without doubt. Such an individual might at first seem strange, both in the way they present their work and in the mannerisms of their normal communications. But we could be fairly certain that an individual thus disposed would be prepared for these difficulties, and having accepted them would deliver the precious knowledge into our hands without any ill feelings, being that they would be, after all, well disposed towards us in the first instance else the gift would not be forthcoming.
Just a thought. Since I'm here, have you checked out my main thread at
http://www.overunity.com/13102/the-paradox-engine/#.UK9HQmfp5Qw
Btw I would greatly appreciate it if you would copy the material and reply making it clear that you had done so, regardless of whether you accept the premise or not.
Quote from: Tusk on November 23, 2012, 06:03:47 AM
You make some very good points bugler. Presuming that you are correct about the vested interest situation, then considering the not inconsiderable risk that someone with the 'key' would expose themselves to by coming here and open sourcing their work, you would hope that the members would grant them a warm welcome and a fair hearing.
Have you thought about what you might expect if this ever did happen? (full open source disclosure of OU) From the point of view of the material itself, and how it would be received.
It does not have to be difficult, look at this:
http://www.overunity.com/12487/simple-to-build-isolation-transformer-that-consumes-less-power-than-it-gives-out/msg346358/#msg346358 (http://www.overunity.com/12487/simple-to-build-isolation-transformer-that-consumes-less-power-than-it-gives-out/msg346358/#msg346358)
Turn any trafo more efficient, and if trafo as normal trafo is efficient enough the it gives OU. Check the question I ask in above link, can anyone give an answer to what is going on ?
Quote from: Jack Noskills on November 29, 2012, 06:58:38 AM
It does not have to be difficult, look at this:
http://www.overunity.com/12487/simple-to-build-isolation-transformer-that-consumes-less-power-than-it-gives-out/msg346358/#msg346358 (http://www.overunity.com/12487/simple-to-build-isolation-transformer-that-consumes-less-power-than-it-gives-out/msg346358/#msg346358)
Turn any trafo more efficient, and if trafo as normal trafo is efficient enough the it gives OU. Check the question I ask in above link, can anyone give an answer to what is going on ?
You've mentioned this a number of times, but I've never seen you or anyone substantiate your claim with demonstrable proof. Why then do you make this claim?
As for your question, what is the value of the "AC" voltage source? Is that a 1:1 transformer?
My fault for not making videos but that is not my style. All I can do is to make circuit diagrams of real system I have tested, and it is not that hard to rewire a 1:1 trafo.
My watt meter says I am using 5 watts when I light bulb at around 25 watts. It says also 5 watts when there is no load connected so watt meters are not to be trusted. I could go and spend big bucks for DSO but 20 watts of extra power is not worth the effort, unless I could loop it back. Well, in that case I would not need the DSO anymore lol.
Quote from: Tusk on November 23, 2012, 06:03:47 AM
Just a thought. Since I'm here, have you checked out my main thread at
http://www.overunity.com/13102/the-paradox-engine/#.UK9HQmfp5Qw (http://www.overunity.com/13102/the-paradox-engine/#.UK9HQmfp5Qw)
Btw I would greatly appreciate it if you would copy the material and reply making it clear that you had done so, regardless of whether you accept the premise or not.
Hello.
Thanks for you answer. Right now I have to study almost all day long. I get very tired at night.
Hopefully in June I will have finished my current studies and I will have time to study things like your device.
Cheers.
Quote from: Jack Noskills on November 29, 2012, 09:41:33 AM
My fault for not making videos but that is not my style. All I can do is to make circuit diagrams of real system I have tested, and it is not that hard to rewire a 1:1 trafo.
I did not say it had to be your video.
I asked for a link to any replication supporting your claim of OU with your circuit. This is based on your statement that others have replicated your OU results.
Still waiting.
Hi, Bugler --
This is Steven E Jones, Professor Emeritus etc. (labels don't mean much to me at this stage, but I think you know who I am).
OK, I'm willing to stick my neck out with a prediction -- that we will have a working, testable, replicated "anomalous energy device" by August 2013. I can't say how many watts one will be able to get out of this at this time; but measurable power from a non-conventional source of energy is what I'm predicting.
Yes, I'm doing some fun experiments myself.
Some of my rationale for this humble prediction can be found in this article:
http://pesn.com/2012/11/19/9602225_Steven_Jones_replica--Pons_and_Fleischmann_XS_Heat_not_from_fusion/#disqus_thread (http://pesn.com/2012/11/19/9602225_Steven_Jones_replica--Pons_and_Fleischmann_XS_Heat_not_from_fusion/#disqus_thread)
And please also see my comments to this article.
No, I don't like the terms "ou" or "free energy" for the reasons given there.
Mankind has identified several sources of energy, wind, sun, hydro, fossil fuels, that go back millenia. Nuclear power did not enter the scene until after 1937 (I give Lise Meitner and colleagues credit for the 1938 discovery which spurred nuclear power production.)
The harnessing of nuclear energy in the 1940's and thereafter changed the world.
Now, are we SURE that we have finally discovered ALL the sources of energy that nature has to offer?
Or is there yet an untapped source of energy, that remains to be fully discovered and harnessed?
NOTE that I am not talking about a violation of the laws of physics, here. Far from it. Rather, I'm suggesting that even great scientists may not know all there is to know, that there may well be as yet untapped sources of energy that we may find.
Oh, yes, your concern about "censorship" by the PTB is certainly justified. Look what happened to whistleblowers who challenged the "official story" of 9/11, for example. (Sigh.)
But this is different in that we may have next year a small working device that college students can replicate. Then it won't be so easy to dismiss this all as "conspiracy theory" or "perpetual motion" or some other squashing epithet -- "it works right there in front of us", for heaven's sake.
If delivered properly to the world via the internet etc. (and THAT delivery is the trick) and built all over the world in large numbers, I don't think even Big Oil and the wealthy controlling-elite will be able to squash it. Think of hundreds and thousands of test devices in Japan, Philippines, Africa, India, Brazil not to mention Russia and China. The BRIC nations are already chafing, as you may know. And Japan is desperate for a new energy source, following the Fukushima nuclear plant disaster. Everybody seems to want something other than fossil fuels and nuclear, and these today are the dominant energy sources.
I guess that's up to us as an alternative-energy community -- and here I include the cold-fusion community as well. We may have to pull together. Given the egos involved, that will be a trick also... I know a lot of these guys.
OK, maybe we'll have to circumvent some of them, too (sigh). But I believe many like Rob Duncan and George Miley and Francesco Celani and Srinivasan will join the fray for a new energy source, IF we can get this small device and let them test it at their universities or laboratories...
Its worth the effort, for the benefit of mankind - the 99%, not to further enrich the 1%.