Below is a brief Synopsis of the recent Documentary Forks Over Knives.
This "movie" can be had through many venues on the Web.
Our diet is changing us,wearing us down, making us sick,tired,vulnerable to
infection and disease.
And I am quite sure it effects our mind and our state of mind.....
The data and statistics presented in this documentary are irrefutable
We as a population are the "evidence" , becoming those statistics.
the consequences are manifesting in all of us!
Comments please?
Thx
Chet
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What has happened to us? Despite the most advanced medical technology in the world, we are sicker than ever by nearly every measure.
Two out of every three of us are overweight. Cases of diabetes are exploding, especially amongst our younger population. About half of us are taking at least one prescription drug. Major medical operations have become routine, helping to drive health care costs to astronomical levels. Heart disease, cancer and stroke are the country's three leading causes of death, even though billions are spent each year to "battle" these very conditions. Millions suffer from a host of other degenerative diseases.
Could it be there's a single solution to all of these problems? A solution so comprehensive, but so straightforward, that it's mind-boggling that more of us haven't taken it seriously?
FORKS OVER KNIVES examines the profound claim that most, if not all, of the degenerative diseases that afflict us can be controlled, or even reversed, by rejecting our present menu of animal-based and processed foods. The major storyline in the film traces the personal journeys of a pair of pioneering yet under-appreciated researchers, Dr. T. Colin Campbell and Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn.
(http://forksoverknives.com/images/newsite/synopsis/synopsis-t-colin-campbell.jpg)Dr. Campbell, a nutritional scientist at Cornell University, was concerned in the late 1960's with producing "high quality" animal protein to bring to the poor and malnourished areas of the third world. While in the Philippines, he made a life-changing discovery: the country's wealthier children, who were consuming relatively high amounts of animal-based foods, were much more likely to get liver cancer. Dr. Esselstyn, a top surgeon and head of the Breast Cancer Task Force at the world-renowned Cleveland Clinic, found that many of the diseases he routinely treated were virtually unknown in parts of the world where animal-based foods were rarely consumed.
These discoveries inspired Campbell and Esselstyn, who didn't know each other yet, to conduct several groundbreaking studies. One of them took place in China and is still among the most comprehensive health-related investigations ever undertaken. Their research led them to a startling conclusion: degenerative diseases like heart disease, type 2 diabetes, and even several forms of cancer, could almost always be prevented—and in many cases reversed—by adopting a whole-foods, plant-based diet. Despite the profound implications of their findings, their work has remained relatively unknown to the public.
The filmmakers travel with Drs. Campbell and Esselstyn on their separate but similar paths, from their childhood farms where they both produced "nature's perfect food"; to China and Cleveland, where they explored ideas that challenged the established thinking and shook their own core beliefs.
The idea of food as medicine is put to the test. Throughout the film, cameras follow "reality patients" who have chronic conditions from heart disease to diabetes. Doctors teach these patients how to adopt a whole-foods plant-based diet as the primary approach to treat their ailments—while the challenges and triumphs of their journeys are revealed.
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Any one with personal experience or knowledge please comment here!
Chet
Food is a depressing topic. It will lead you back to the root of the problem. Greed of money will be the distruction of everyone. Every measure of sense over writen with a model of more for less. More money for less product. Less quality,quantity. the less meat theory would be grand if the plant based foods were of quality. Yet GMO plant based foods will render your answer useless. Poor farming practices and soil conservation reliance on chemical based fertalizers all result in poor plant based foods. GMO's and the compounds that make up the group are in every aspect of farming these days even if the farmer is not awear of it. the effects last for many years after the chemicals are no longer used because the enter into the natural food chain. Weeds ,grass trees which shed leaves for years laced with the chemicals that re-enter the eco system.
Animal waste becomes plant food and cycles for years before the chemicals have expired. There are simply too many people to feed economically.Soon there will be too many to feed period. Shortened life spans would be practical at some point or limits on the number of children born but that gets into a real uggly topic. Human nature will cure the problem with self distruction. Have a twinky and enjoy the show. Have you ever heard the phrase "to big to fail" . The dinosor was probably the first one to coin that phrase.
Doug
Thanks for the comments,The first step in change is to realize the necessity.
My son tried this "change", His comment was "you will not believe the difference",He has more energy than he ever thought possible ,his whole attitude has changed ,a good nights sleep is the norm not the exception.
We are fodder for the Finance,our illness feeds industry.
I'm working ATM...............
thx
Chet
Quote from: Doug1 on December 17, 2012, 09:49:02 AMThere are simply too many people to feed economically. Shortened life spans would be practical at some point or limits on the number of children born but that gets into a real ugly topic.
No need to shorten the lifespan, but I think limits on the number of children would help a lot (in matters of food, working places, etc.), e.g. max. number of 2 kids per couple (or 1 child per parental part, so the total sum always stays equal). I've heard people already raging about that, talking of freedom and rights, while not understanding "One persons freedom ends where another persons freedom begins".
First, there is no real food shortage. Any growing problems are not so much of a geographic problem, but rather a geometric challenge. Last I checked, the government still pays some farms subsidies not to produce. 2ndly, this propaganda about overpopulation is just that. We haven't even crossed the 20% marker for capacity and the only thing we really have an excess of is greed.
Quote from: ramset on December 17, 2012, 09:07:07 AM
... Documentary Forks Over Knives.
Very informative!
I'm going change my diet&habits immediately and let you know about it.
I've gave it a try about 5 years ago for maybe 2 months and I could see clear sign of improvements in my tonus despite the fact my former diet was not exactly like in the movie but 'no-fire cooking' and it included some milk (and derived products) as well as few eggs once in a while. It was more convenient to me at that time to abort it because of daily rush and because I was young and healthy, having no need to 'complicate' my life. But I remember the changes that I started to feel almost immediately (in like 2-3 weeks) and I was very impressed!
My advice: go for it!
My second advice: in my experience it was difficult to find fresh and clean/green vegetables in winter, so please consider it and also please take into account some more time for shopping, cooking and for actually taking your meals. Also, digesting plant-based food takes a little more energy for your stomach and it gives at the beginning less energy to you so my initial impulse was to eat more at a meal instead of taking more small meals during a day...
Many thanks!!!
Tinu
Yes I will be doing this also, The inflamation caused by these irritants to our bodies may even be one of the reasons Alzheimers is running wild at the same time in the same parts of the world [our parts] Some form of Lesion /irritation at the synapse is under very serious research there.
I have never done such a diet,and am hoping for comments like yours to assist me,My wife says it will be quite expensive to maintain this new lifestyle,I don't argue that point [I know whats good for me !:.] but I do wonder how a diet attributed to poorer areas of the planet can end up being costly here?
Any more advice would be Nice
Thx
Chet
PS
What about this Juicer stuff [pulverising the veggies and such?]
I live in Cincinnati, Ohio. Where we educated the City Counsel to make a law for the labeling of all food products that contain GMO. GMO or genetically modified foods, have no better qualities over natural hybrids. They made potatoes that have a gene from a spider (I believe it was) and if you eat just one of these, it will cause 3rd generation Sterility.. How the fuc* is that possible. I mean they made it that way, but HTF. Gen Mod Food is poison and it has made us cannibals.. Yes, cannibals. They put human genes in rice, cows, fish ect.. That's sick..
God help us, help ourselves..
Sir
You sound like a man of action in your community.....
I commend you for this.
I suppose when we give the indifferent Greed driven mindset a toehold in our world ... eventually if we do not take action
We end up hanging on by our toes. Who do we blame?
These days I see things differently ,I look in the mirror first.
Most of us here are Men ,we for the most part "get what we want" at home
in the food department.
Steak eggs meats ETc ETC...... and in my case a lot of "Fast cheap" food [processed].
We also as it turns out get COMPLETELY AVOIDABLE Cancers ,Diabetes
Alzheimers and all manner of Joint degredation and inflamation
NY TIMES Article
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Just in case you need another reason to cut back on junk food, it now turns out that Alzheimer's could well be a form of diet-induced diabetes. That's the bad news. The good news is that laying off soda, doughnuts, processed meats and fries could allow you to keep your mind intact until your body fails you.
More info to follow........
thx
Chet
Chet,
I salute your initiative to raise people's awareness about the sick state of our food supply. There's much I agree with, but some that I've found needs to be weighed in the light of research.
I've had to make a lot of diet changes in the last 5 years after finding out I was gluten intolerant. My family and I have gotten processed foods, heavy starches, sugar, grains and pasteurized cow's milk out of our diet, and our once badly deteriorated health is slowly recovering. I haven't seen the movie you mention, but if it rejects meat, I find it questionable.
The vegan diet is a great cleansing and alkalyzing diet. Anyone diagnosed with cancer should probably go on either a raw, cooked or mixed r/c vegan diet. An alkalyzed body will have increased oxygen transport, and cancer can't survive in an oxygenated environment.
But one needs to be aware that a vegan/vegetarian diet will not meet the body's repair and building needs.
Grains and sugars are the worst promoters of inflammation. I had to stop eating store-bought beef a few years ago because it was making me feel sick. Once I had grass-fed and fattened beef, I had absolutely zero problems. I know of many other gluten-sensitive persons who can eat grass-fed beef without a problem. The problem is really feed lot beef, fed inflammatory grains. A farmer friend told me that one of the ingredients used in feed lot beef is "DPW" - dehydrated poultry waste, not to mention whatever other animal remains might be added to give more protein.
The thing about meat and eggs, especially, is that we need their protein and cholesterol for repairing and bulding tissue. Every cell wall is made primarily of cholesterol; and I believe cholesterol is key to hormone production. A great book to back this up is The Great Cholesterol Myth by Johnny Bowden, PHD and Stephen Sinatra, MD. Here's a llink:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Great-Cholesterol-Myth-Disease/dp/1592335217 (http://www.amazon.com/The-Great-Cholesterol-Myth-Disease/dp/1592335217)
Bowden and Sinatra point out that there's no link between Cholesterol and heart disease. The cause of heart disease is inflammation (sugar, grains ... ).
Here is a pretty good rather mainstream (Mercola) interview critiquing the inadequacies of the vegan diet, including T. Colin Campbell's China Study:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5gNzBNgZas (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5gNzBNgZas) (listen from 7:30 onward for China Study critique)
Much of what I said can be found on the Weston A Price Foundation website. I've had to do a lot of digging, and continue to find their info quite reliable.
http://www.westonaprice.org/ (http://www.westonaprice.org/)
Bob
Bob
The idea of going Vegan is as interesting to me as having my Fingernails pulled out.
Thx for the info ,and your contribution. I suppose the point is we are being poisoned by our diets,and the real kicker is Alzheimers.......
I am looking for stories , experiences and opinions like yours here "real life" help!
Thx
Chet
PS
Do your self a favor Watch the Docu/movie Forks over knives there is much info on what the meat issue really is about ,especially as it applies to Cancer.
Hey Chet
I'll give the film a view.
As far as alzheimer's, have you checked out the story of Dr. Mary Newport, who reversed her husband's dementia with coconut oil? See:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iScs0uzQZFk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iScs0uzQZFk) see from 8:30 on and into part II to get the mechanics of how it works.
Here's a story of a woman whose husband with advanced dementia was cured in the same way:
http://www.naturepacific.com/contents/en-us/d240_Coconut_Oil_Cures_Dementia.html (http://www.naturepacific.com/contents/en-us/d240_Coconut_Oil_Cures_Dementia.html)
I watched another YT story about a couple who cured the husband's dementia with a low carb diet and a supplement (I think it was phospatidylserine - not sure). I'm sure someone can find it.
Current medical understanding is coming to recognize Alzheimer's disease as a condition in which the brain becomes starved for glucose - kind of like a diabetes of the brain. In fact, some are beginning to describe it as a type III Diabetes, as it involves malfunctioning insulin receptors in the brain, which will not allow the brain to ingest the glucose it needs to function, and so, brain cells begin to die off. Coconut oil is a medium chain fatty acid. When ingested, the liver converts it into ketone bodies, which go directly to brain circulation for the brain to use as fuel => improved brain function.
Dr. Mary Newport and her husband Steve's interview above spell this all out.
Take care,
Bob
So Bob
You a coconut oil salesman :D ?
All these preventable problems steming from a poor diet and exercise regime.
And yet so many people {most} are completely unaware.
Thanks for those links ,I'm gonna write My grocery list as soon as I finish this
HOOD "New England Creamery ,Mt washington Chocalate peanut butter Chip" Icecream , Topped off with Gods finest Chocolate Syrup [Hersheys "Genuine"].
Sigh........... Its just not fair Bob .... This ain't gonna be easy !
Thx
Chet