Love this.
http://vimeo.com/51873011#
Nice find. I wonder if you could combine a graphene super capacitor with a Jule Thief circuit.
Bill
Does anyone know, what does the chemical reaction in this video? can anyone translate, what`s spoken/written?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiW3pQ9X7U0&feature=endscreen&NR=1
Anyone?
Any idea what could make this reaction? Looks like exothermic reaction.... could this be something like the thing in the draincleaner with (the metalic looking spots) aluminum and water?
Or does anyone know, how to make (easy way) "Graphite oxide"?
Thanks!
Hello
Heat up graphiteoxide :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphite_oxide
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl45J6iw3tE
Regards
Kator01
Quote from: Kator01 on February 15, 2013, 07:46:48 PM
Hello
Heat up graphiteoxide :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphite_oxide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphite_oxide)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl45J6iw3tE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl45J6iw3tE)
Regards
Kator01
Thanks for the response!
My Question is, how to make "Graphite OXIDE" , because this is the start material to get to Graphene :) .... the description in the video you posted is :"Graphite oxide exfoliation at ~350 degrees C. About 30 mg of graphite oxide loaded into furnace heated to 380C and in two minutes it explodes into fine carbon powder. Reaction occurs with impressive increase in volume."
So, does anyone know, how to get the OXIDE state of Graphite?
From this we can start to get on experimenting and build Graphene......
The main goal is now to get a easy way to produce OXIDE state of GRAPHITE.....
THANKS :)
A while ago I made a post here perhaps it's relative now.
Producing large amounts of graphene is not very difficult using an electrochemical method with sulfuric acid:
http://idv.sinica.edu.tw/lanceli/electrochemical%20exfoliation%20%28H2SO4%29.mov (http://idv.sinica.edu.tw/lanceli/electrochemical%20exfoliation%20%28H2SO4%29.mov)
http://www.overunity.com/8782/graphite-paper-aluminium-foil-galvanic-cell-with-1-7-to-1-92-volts/msg315056/#msg315056 (http://www.overunity.com/8782/graphite-paper-aluminium-foil-galvanic-cell-with-1-7-to-1-92-volts/msg315056/#msg315056)
It's much harder to make long strings of graphene, which would have much more applications.
Quote from: Qwert on February 16, 2013, 11:35:22 AM
It's much harder to make long strings of graphene, which would have much more applications.
This kind of graphene already has many potential applications one of which is cleaning up oil spills, quickly, safely, cheaply:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E74CqPcdA9g
This can be even produced on demand on a ship, and not only is it completely non toxic, the oil can even be retrieved simply by burning it. Makes you wonder why oil spills still are being cleaned by very toxic and dangerous oil dispersants.
Thanks for the support!
Here maybe something of interest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7GG-0_bwaM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51J98sMjlcY
Anyone who knows, or has any idea how it is made, please let us know!
The key to all is the liquid chemical that "Victor Petric" has "invented" for the process...
Quote from: LukeLordOfLight on January 30, 2013, 08:55:01 AM
Does anyone know, what does the chemical reaction in this video? can anyone translate, what`s spoken/written?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiW3pQ9X7U0&feature=endscreen&NR=1
That guy does not reveal a word about those components or technology. I was learning Russian a while ago and I still understand it somewhat. He says only something like: "look, how science is wonderful and especially Russian science."
You can easily find the patents however the magic juice which is the "activated acid catalyst" sounds a bit vague to me.
QuoteAs still further used herein, the term "activated acid catalyst" refers to an acidic solution of a compound, wherein the solution (typically, but not necessarily aqueous) is subjected to an electromagnetic field, electromagnetic radiation, and/or laser irradiation. Most preferably, the activated acid catalyst comprises an acidic solution that is plasma-activated and/or comprises a compound having the general formula MXOn, wherein M is selected from the group consisting of H, NH4, Na, and K, wherein X is selected from the group consisting of Cl, Br, and I, and wherein n is an integer between 0 and 4, inclusive. It should be noted that the term "activated acid catalyst" also includes one or more oxidizers (typically, but not necessarily in aqueous solution) that were previously subjected to electromagnetic radiation, an electromagnetic field, and/or laser irradiation. Alternatively, and in less preferred aspects, activation using the electromagnetic radiation, electromagnetic field, and/or laser irradiation may replaced by admixing the acid or oxidizer with a penetration enhancer (e.g., compounds and/or mixtures commonly found in lubricating formulations, etc.).
In one preferred aspect of the inventive subject matter, the inventors discovered graphene can be produced from commercially available graphite (e.g., Natural crystalline flake graphite from Superior Graphite Co., 10 S. Riverside Plaza, Chicago, Ill. 60606) using commercially available activated acid catalyst (e.g., Activated Acid Catalyst #3[Plasma-activated hydrochloric acid] from SupraCarbonic, LLC., 348 N. Eckhoff Street, Orange, Calif. 92868, USA). For example, the crystalline flake graphite is granulated to a size between about 0.1 and several millimeter and mixed with the activated acid catalyst in approximately same weight proportions (e.g., 10 gram graphite with 10 ml activated acid catalyst). The so prepared activated graphite is then subjected to heating at a temperature of about 120° C. for up to two minutes (typically less than 40 seconds) to expansion (up to 500-fold in volume). Exemplary electronmicrographs of the so produced material are depicted in FIG. 1A and FIG. 1B at different magnification.
From this patent:
http://www.google.com/patents/US20120237435?dq=ininventor:%22Viktor+I.+Petrik%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=n5kgUa_NLILXtAaKyYHgBw&ved=0CDkQ6AEwAA
http://www.nanomagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=876:making-graphene-oxide-greener (http://www.nanomagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=876:making-graphene-oxide-greener)
This explains a new way to make GO. Then, all we need is a DVD disk and a DVD burner. It might take some time to figure out the mixture ratio but man, this stuff is the future.
The first thing I would do is to hook it to a JT circuit.
I wonder if we can really make this stuff?
Bill
http://hackaday.com/2012/03/20/print-your-own-supercaps/ (http://hackaday.com/2012/03/20/print-your-own-supercaps/)
Print your own supercaps!
This is directly related to the dvd burner process. This is amazing.
Bill
dl.dropbox.com/u/33170160/Science-2012-El-Kady-1326-30.pdf (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33170160/Science-2012-El-Kady-1326-30.pdf)
http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130125/srep01134/full/srep01134.html
Quote from: rensseak on February 17, 2013, 12:35:25 PM
dl.dropbox.com/u/33170160/Science-2012-El-Kady-1326-30.pdf (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33170160/Science-2012-El-Kady-1326-30.pdf)
http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130125/srep01134/full/srep01134.html#supplementary-information (http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130125/srep01134/full/srep01134.html#supplementary-information)
Seems to be bad links. Pdf doesnt load and the other link brings us right back to this thread. :o Very strange on that second one. How does that happen?
Mags
He Mags,
I did check it but for me it works fine.
Quote from: rensseak on February 17, 2013, 01:02:04 PM
He Mags,
I did check it but for me it works fine.
Both links work fine over here too.
Bill
I just tried them in the quote box in my post and the second one worked. ;]
The first one still hung up. Maybe its my firewall/antivirus.
Thanks
Mags
working for me too!
Thanks!
What was that Scotch Tape method of producing graphite oxide? They said something like it only produces small amounts.......? Could this method be scaled up or improved upon? I have no idea how it might work to produce even a very small amount.
Bill
Possible source for graphene oxide:
&shopp_catfilters[Graphene%20Powder%20or%20Graphene%20Oxide]=Graphene+Oxide&gclid=CO-A6sqfwbUCFQ6ynQodpDAAnw]http://www.angstronmaterials.com/shop/category/all-graphene-products/?shopp_catfilters[Graphene%20Powder%20or%20Graphene%20Oxide]&shopp_catfilters[Graphene%20Powder%20or%20Graphene%20Oxide]=Graphene+Oxide&gclid=CO-A6sqfwbUCFQ6ynQodpDAAnw (http://www.angstronmaterials.com/shop/category/all-graphene-products/?shopp_catfilters%5BGraphene%20Powder%20or%20Graphene%20Oxide)
http://www.angstronmaterials.com/shop/n002-ps/ (http://www.angstronmaterials.com/shop/n002-ps/)
Wow! $775.00 (US) for 5 grams of graphene oxide solution. I need to learn how to make this stuff.
Bill
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphene (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphene)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oEFwyoWKXo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oEFwyoWKXo)
One could give the 'drawing' method or the thermal reduction method via lightscribe DVD drive a go...
TS
P.S. It may be noted that Graphene is also one of the strongest materials known at this time....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we3kWMkSGtg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we3kWMkSGtg)
So, one can imagine the kinds of uses for such a strong (in more ways than one) 'battery' as this. The car of the future may use it's body as the battery, and simply pulling forward in order to touch a couple contacts for a couple minutes could give one a few hundred miles of range. Aircraft skins obtain appreciable positive charges in flight. Imagine a craft whose skin charges itself simply by the act of flying through the atmosphere, or by targeted laser conduit channel.
Here is presented the Scotch Tape method
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/multimedia/2011/sep/29/how-to-make-graphene
Dvd lasers use a wavelength of 650 nm (red light), which is equivalent to 1.9 eV (electron volts). This is extremely important, because it is 0.2 eV above what is required to break the bonds of the fullerenes cage when atomic hydrogen is externally bonded to the cage. The energy needed to break one bond is larger than the energy to break two adjacent bonds. The energy barrier to propagate the fracture decreases at successive steps. As a matter of fact, it may be reasonable to assume that the energy released following the initial step may activate the zipperlike cleavage at the crease without further energy investment. Once cleavage is initiated, the unzipping process transforms the stressed crease into two overlapping graphene edges in an exothermic reaction.
Graphite oxide is a compound of carbon, oxygen, and hydrogen. Molecular hydrogen (H2) does not dissociate on planar graphene, but does so with an energy gain on fullerenes, with the dissociated hydrogen pair preferentially binding on top of adjacent carbon atoms. The dissociated hydrogen pair binding externally to the cage of the fullerenes helps to release stress. Following an initial energy investment of 1.7 eV (red light from a DVD laser), the bonds of the cage break abruptly, leaving two overlapping graphene edges. There is a net energy gain of ~2 eV associated with the bond breaking, caused by releasing the accumulated stress. The net energy gain of ~2 eV plus the initial energy investment of 1.7 eV is 3.7 eV, which is 0.2 eV above the white led (3.5 eV) being lit in the video found in the first post of this thread. I posted this information in another thread (http://www.overunity.com/10039/ground-breaking-work-of-frank-znidarsic-cold-fusion-anti-gravity-explained/msg275072/#msg275072) 2 years ago which didn't gain any interest at that time (which is the norm).
Reference Publication: "Hydrogen-induced disintegration of fullerenes and nanotubes (http://www.pa.msu.edu/cmp/csc/eprint/DT200.pdf)".
Gravock
IMO, it's much cheaper and easier to isolate the fullerenes which can then be used to produce graphene. Below is a patent on isolating these fullerenes. It mentions that fullerenes in soot (contained in a quartz vessel) can be evaporated by microwaves in seconds. The fullerenes gas (brown stuff) then condenses on the walls of the vessel. Next, the fullerenes cages can be used to dissociate molecular hydrogen into atomic hydrogen which then binds externally to the cages to help release the stress in order for a red dvd laser to easily break the bonds of the cages to produce graphene.
United States Patent 5458742: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5458742.html (http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5458742.html)
Gravock
A small particle of carboxy fullerene is placed on top of heat sensitive explosive. Irradiation with a 785 nm laser (1W) results in an instantaneous explosion. In the absence of carboxy fullerenes, the laser with output power of (5W), failed to ignite the explosives. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJvh0yA69ow )
Gravock
Quote from: Qwert on February 20, 2013, 03:29:28 AM
Here is presented the Scotch Tape method
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/multimedia/2011/sep/29/how-to-make-graphene (http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/multimedia/2011/sep/29/how-to-make-graphene)
The video says the scotch tape method isn't practical, so why do you think we should pursue this method? If they overlooked something which can make this method practical for the application currently being discussed then I'm all ears.
Gravock
Here's how to make carbon fullerenes with 100 percent efficiency (http://arstechnica.com/science/2008/08/bucky-balls-not-quite-finished/) which allows us to reverse this method by disintegrating the fullerenes with molecular hydrogen and a DVD laser as mentioned in one of my previous posts. This whole process can then be repeated. Each cycle in the process should yield a net energy gain of 2 eV. Please note, the platinum isn't consumed in this process and can be salvaged cheaply from catalytic converters, etc.
Gravock
Quote from: gravityblock on February 20, 2013, 01:58:33 PM
The video says the scotch tape method isn't practical, so why do you think we should pursue this method? If they overlooked something which can make this method practical for the application currently being discussed then I'm all ears.
Gravock
I believe that was in response to my question above about the tape method. i asked how it worked and thought maybe the efficiency could be scaled up a bit. In thinking about it, I think perhaps the tape removes from the surface some particles that have been oxidized by the exposure to air. If this is correct, why could we not grind the graphite into powder form and place it in a vessel and pressurize the vessel with pure oxygen and maybe even agitate the contents a bit? It would seem to me that this would speed up the oxidation process...perhaps not by enough to make it viable. The method used in those videos was with acid, which would be problematic for me to do in my small apartment. Maybe we can come up with something that does indeed work.
Bill
The media for the DVD disc is extremely important. A platinum DVD disc pins the precursor molecule in place, flattening the bent structure while simultaneously catalyzing a reaction that strips off the hydrogen, which is contained in the graphite oxide. As the reaction proceeds, the carbon, also contained in the graphite oxide starts to form a half-cage of sorts and the stripped hydrogen then binds externally to the cages of the fullerenes. At some point, the formation of the spherical bucky ball is presumed to be spontaneous, leaving a ball of pure C60 pinned on the platinum surface of the DVD disc. In short, this process makes carbon fullerenes with a 100% efficiency, and without the formation of the fullerenes there will be no net energy gain. The red dvd laser can now easily break the bonds of the fullerenes with a net energy gain. In addition to this, DVD's have a polycarbonate structure which acts as a dilectric for high stability capacitors.
Gravock
http://www.kcet.org/news/rewire/science/more-good-news-on-those-carbon-supercapacitors.html
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jp902214f (http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jp902214f)
http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/News/2012/February/graphene-inhaled-lungs.asp (http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/News/2012/February/graphene-inhaled-lungs.asp)
http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n2/extref/ncomms2446-s1.pdf (http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n2/extref/ncomms2446-s1.pdf)
Thanks so much for sharing the News on this!!!
:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oEFwyoWKXo
;D
Mags
I see it was already posted . Hackaday
Mags
Quote from: Magluvin on February 23, 2013, 12:32:47 AM
I see it was already posted . Hackaday
Mags
Yes, I posted that as I check their site all of the time. They have some great things on there, most of which i do not understand. It is a good place to learn some new developments though, except, they are not as advanced as we are here on OU on the JT circuits, but other than that....
Bill
This patent (http://www.google.com/patents/US20100144904) discloses how to create a graphene or graphene oxide arerogel which may be reinforced with a polymer. The polymer could be a polycarbonate layer on a dvd disc to act as a dielectric for the formation of a high stability graphene aerogel super capacitor. Exposing the surface area of 1 gram of this graphene aerogel would cover the length of an entire football field. This method allows the graphene super capacitor to easily be scaled up. Below is a snippet of the patent above. Interesting stuff!
QuoteA carbon-based aerogel is disclosed in which the carbon atoms are arranged in a sheet-like nanostructure. The aerogel may be either a graphene oxide aerogel or a graphene aerogel and may further be reinforced with a polymer. A method for making the aerogel is also disclosed and includes providing graphite oxide, creating a dispersion of the graphite oxide in a liquid, and drying the dispersion to form a graphene oxide aerogel. In one embodiment, the graphene oxide aerogel is thermally treated to convert the graphene oxide to graphene.
Quote from: Pirate88179 on February 21, 2013, 11:09:23 PM
I believe that was in response to my question above about the tape method. i asked how it worked and thought maybe the efficiency could be scaled up a bit. In thinking about it, I think perhaps the tape removes from the surface some particles that have been oxidized by the exposure to air. If this is correct, why could we not grind the graphite into powder form and place it in a vessel and pressurize the vessel with pure oxygen and maybe even agitate the contents a bit? It would seem to me that this would speed up the oxidation process...perhaps not by enough to make it viable. The method used in those videos was with acid, which would be problematic for me to do in my small apartment. Maybe we can come up with something that does indeed work.
Bill
Bill,
Here's a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWPQFcUwWyI) on "how to make Graphene at home by the bucket-load: Part 2 - Simplified method". This simplified method looks relatively safe if the necessary precautions are taken with there being no risk for explosion. Let me know what you think, thumbs up or thumbs down?
Thanks,
Gravock
Video Description: Published on Feb 1, 2013
"So, i was getting a lot of people telling me that the method I was using was pretty complicated and I agree. So, I have spent quite a bit of time looking for a much simpler way to do this and I think I have found it. Basically the method is to put
320ml Sulphuric Acid
80ml Phosphoric Acid
3.2g graphite Flake
18g Potassium Permanganate
into a jar and leave it sitting around for 3-4 days. At the end of that time add 100ml of Hydrogen Peroxide and you are done. What you should have is a bright yellow precipitate of graphene oxide. Then you need to wash this in 1 moar HCl and water until the pH is about 4 or 5. I don't think you could get simpler than this for a wet chemical method that seems to produce
nearly 100% graphene oxide - well, I know I don't lead that interesting a life but I am pretty excited by this."
Edit: Corrected bad link.
Quote from: gravityblock on February 23, 2013, 02:25:50 PM
Bill,
Here's a video (http://www.overunity.com/How%20to%20make%20Graphene%20at%20home%20by%20the%20bucketload%20-%20part%202%20-%20Simplified%20method) on "how to make Graphene at home by the bucket-load: Part 2 - Simplified method". This simplified method looks relatively safe if the necessary precautions are taken with there being no risk for explosion. Let me know what you think, thumbs up or thumbs down?
Thanks,
Gravock
Video Description:
Published on Feb 1, 2013
"So, i was getting a lot of people telling me that the method I was using was pretty complicated and I agree. So, I have spent quite a bit of time looking for a much simpler way to do this and I think I have found it. Basically the method is to put
320ml Sulphuric Acid
80ml Phosphoric Acid
3.2g graphite Flake
18g Potassium Permanganate
into a jar and leave it sitting around for 3-4 days. At the end of that time add 100ml of Hydrogen Peroxide and you are done. What you should have is a bright yellow precipitate of graphene oxide. Then you need to wash this in 1 moar HCl and water until the pH is about 4 or 5. I don't think you could get simpler than this for a wet chemical method that seems to produce nearly 100% graphene oxide - well, I know I don't lead that interesting a life but I am pretty excited by this."
Thanks for posting this but, when I hit the video link, it opens another page and takes me to the OU home page for some reason. I have heard of this happening to some folks here but I have no idea why. This method does sound reasonably safe and simple even though I was a very poor chemistry student, I think I could do this ok.
Can any one else get the video link ok or is it just me this time?
Thanks, great research on all of this.
Bill
Quote from: Pirate88179 on February 23, 2013, 02:57:19 PM
Thanks for posting this but, when I hit the video link, it opens another page and takes me to the OU home page for some reason. I have heard of this happening to some folks here but I have no idea why. This method does sound reasonably safe and simple even though I was a very poor chemistry student, I think I could do this ok.
Can any one else get the video link ok or is it just me this time?
Thanks, great research on all of this.
Bill
I corrected the bad link. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
Gravock
I have seen a few youtube videos of a guy using a predesigned lightscribe file to turn the graphene into a super capacitator. Does anyone know where to find one of these files? Maybe we could design one.
Heres the video with the pattern.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABZ6Sskf-0A
Thanks
Hi Guys, just a question.
I had a dinner with my wife and the candles, you now how it is. And than I was a bit just messing with the candle and then I realized the black deposit of the smoke from the flame could be some kind of Graphene? So I collected the dark matter and putted on the tape and when I check it across the distance with the multi meter it shows me between 3-32MOhm.
My question is- is it Graphene?
Cheers.
Quote from: John.K1 on November 24, 2015, 04:20:36 PM
Hi Guys, just a question.
I had a dinner with my wife and the candles, you now how it is. And than I was a bit just messing with the candle and then I realized the black deposit of the smoke from the flame could be some kind of Graphene? So I collected the dark matter and putted on the tape and when I check it across the distance with the multi meter it shows me between 3-32MOhm.
My question is- is it Graphene?
Cheers.
hi there.
you've managed to discover the answer to finding overunity. this first began when you found a way to get her to actually cook those nice sit down dinners you share together thats been keeping you alive. haha just kidding around.
that does sound interesting your discovery with the tape collecting airborne carbon deposits.
could it be a method to making graphene? it does work using a carbon, and without knowing myself having not duplicated the experiment, i would have checked for electrical conductivity also on non carbonated piece of tape, though you might have already done that as well and found there was a difference or not in results.
could the tape itself be able to have transferred some kind of static charge, or even the electric current in your own handling of the tape if bending it and maybe also that heat and the tiny electrical current that is present with the person themself?
was the rooms air very dry from a heating source? type of material if there was a tablecloth or surface the tests were performed on?
was one of those new smartwatches worn that might have some radiation present from the device it is or something to do with its bluetooth function on? other metallics nearby, rings, plastics etc?
my knowledge is rather limited, suppose any potential variables could affect test results.
might have found a easy work around to making graphene there it seems.
well done!
here is something i just found, trying to find the electrical conductivity of wax to see what effects it could have on what makes up the burnt carbons compositon.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0196890412002865
Quote from: John.K1 on November 24, 2015, 04:20:36 PM
...messing with the candle and then I realized the black deposit of the smoke from the flame could be some kind of Graphene?...
I've seen some of the Keshe builds use this. He heats up a copper wire to cover it in the black soot stuff. Don't know if his builds are real or not.
Quote from: SoManyWires on November 24, 2015, 06:57:02 PM
hi there.
you've managed to discover the answer to finding overunity. this first began when you found a way to get her to actually cook those nice sit down dinners you share together thats been keeping you alive. haha just kidding around.
that does sound interesting your discovery with the tape collecting airborne carbon deposits.
could it be a method to making graphene? it does work using a carbon, and without knowing myself having not duplicated the experiment, i would have checked for electrical conductivity also on non carbonated piece of tape, though you might have already done that as well and found there was a difference or not in results.
could the tape itself be able to have transferred some kind of static charge, or even the electric current in your own handling of the tape if bending it and maybe also that heat and the tiny electrical current that is present with the person themself?
was the rooms air very dry from a heating source? type of material if there was a tablecloth or surface the tests were performed on?
was one of those new smartwatches worn that might have some radiation present from the device it is or something to do with its bluetooth function on? other metallics nearby, rings, plastics etc?
my knowledge is rather limited, suppose any potential variables could affect test results.
might have found a easy work around to making graphene there it seems.
well done!
here is something i just found, trying to find the electrical conductivity of wax to see what effects it could have on what makes up the burnt carbons compositon.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0196890412002865
Hi So ManyWires :) Actually it was me who was cooking :) No OU here :) In the matter of the deposit I have checked its conductivity on the porcelain too (back of the plate) And because it does significantly heats the plate up = it is completely dry and it still shows conductivity.
Time to make my hands dirty and to play a bit with that. For you I have made a video :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCCb4vGTB4A&feature=em-upload_owner
Thank you for the link.
MagnaProp. - Yep, I know. Actually I started to build Keshes coil last week. But didn't finished as I started to Not believe in its functionality. I think Keshe is just a Ilusionist. There is not single prove it works, nor single video showing it, nor any chemical analyse or measurements. Starting with his solid CO2 - which in reality is just a sediment from the impurities of the salt water), he calls oxides top layer of the copper as a super conductor- which evidently is not etc... He just behaves like a lieder of some sect. :) On other hand, he was speaking about different layers of different metals (or its oxides) and there could be something true- causing movement of electrons from one lower natural potential to the higher one. Which reminds me a device- I forgot already its name - which consisted of three tubes filled with dozens of metals (materials)
Regards,
I made a graphene supercapacitor last week. 2.6 volts and it was enough to light an LED without a joule thief. I came up with a really easy method
1) Anode (Positive terminal) - Coat some PET plastic with 325 mesh graphite (overhead projector plastic and rub graphite on for about 10 minutes with a soft cloth). After 10 minutes it should be conductive (check with a multimeter) alternatively if you have a sheet of copper you could try that instead for your anode.
2) Dielectric Separator - Buy some white Titanium paint from local art shop. Usually called Titanium white (contains titanium oxide) Paint a strip on another piece of PET or clean glass panel. When it dries after 24 hours peel the paint strip off the plastic and cut into a square (it can't have any holes in it).
3) Make some graphene 25% Deionized (or distilled) water (1/4 cup) and 75% Acetone (3/4 cup) with about 20 grams of 325 mesh graphite. Stick it in the blender for 12 hours (you want to do this in 24 hours with 30 min on 30 min off (Make or buy a timer to turn on and off) as the blender will over heat. After that let it sit for a week to settle or use a low speed centrifuge (I made one out of a dremil). The clear liquid is the graphene not the stuff on the top or the stuff on the bottom. It is clear but you can see it with a laser pen (Tyndall effect), Extract just the graphene in solution and put in a separate bottle.
4) You need some aluminum foil as your cathode (negative terminal).
5) You need an electrolyte I used salt in deionized water.
Now put it together.
Coat of salt water on your PET plastic that you rubbed with graphite.
Peel off your titanium white paint and coat both sides with your graphene solution, Let it dry
Coat of salt water on your aluminum foil
Now put them together, Graphite coated PET (graphite side up and it's coated with salt water) + Titanium Paint (both sides coated in graphene) + Aluminium Foil with Salt coated side down towards titanium paint separator thats coated with graphene on both sides .
Graphite (Anode- Connect + to here)
Salt Water (electrolyte)
Graphene
Titanium oxide (Dielectric separator)
Graphene
Salt Water (Electrolyte)
Aluminium (Cathode - Connect - to here )
Now charge it for a few minutes with a 9 volt battery and you have your very own super capacitor. I have some ideas to improve upon the method but need to buy some stuff.
Hi Nink,
It sounds interesting and easy enough.
I might give it a try. I have Titanium Oxide in the powder at home. Just thinking to mix it up with the PVC glue??
Thanks,
Regards
Quote from: John.K1 on November 25, 2015, 02:56:10 PM
Hi Nink,
It sounds interesting and easy enough.
I might give it a try. I have Titanium Oxide in the powder at home. Just thinking to mix it up with the PVC glue??
Thanks,
Regards
PVC glue is worth trying but it doesn't peel off very well. There was a good video on youtube by neatpete45 who tried PVC but ended up using seal and peel (peelable latex available in Australia) Here is his video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGf2yps91qM
Couple of things he could improve on 1) He used Aluminum as Cathode and as Anode (you really want 2 different types of metals) . 2) he put the graphene on a burner, this will just turn it back to graphite. After it has settled for a week or 2 just poor off the graphene (or syringe out - it will be a clear to purple color ) but not the black graphite powder on bottom or silver layer on top. You can just leave the lid off for 24 hours and the acetone will dry off quickly but use it within 24 hours or it will settle back to graphite as the acetone acts as a dispersant and keeps the layers of graphene from compacting and turning back to graphite.
The titanium oxide paint cost me 5 bucks.
Quote from: John.K1 on November 25, 2015, 05:17:57 AM
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MagnaProp. - Yep, I know. Actually I started to build Keshes coil last week. But didn't finished as I started to Not believe in its functionality...
I'm skeptical as well. When I heard him talking about all the "healing" powers it can have, well that tends to open the wack job flood gates. People are receiving the devices they ordered so that is a positive indication. Sounds like the devices can take up to 20 days to get up to operational status so we'll find out soon enough how the reports come back. The one thing that stood out to me about the builds is coating the wires in black soot. Electricity likes to travel on the outer "skin effect" layer of a wire at high frequency or voltage so it got me thinking about coating wires in Graphene to see if that helps move things along the outer skin layer.
Quote from: Nink on November 25, 2015, 10:45:04 AM
I made a graphene supercapacitor last week. 2.6 volts and it was enough to light an LED without a joule thief. I came up with a really easy method...
Great work! Wouldn't mind seeing a step by step video build if you ever get the time. I'm still waiting on LaserSaber to make his.
Nice job, it was really impressive. Graphene is amazing material. Its just so versatile, especially when you wanna enhance electronics. I expect that one day soon I gonna have every single component in my computer coated with these (http://mstnano.com/) nano-materials :)