I just got an idea from an old unworkable wheel from a long time ago.
When I get home I will post a picture here.
But basically it involves a SMOT and how to break free from it once it is stuck.
I will try to describe in words..
It's a square wheel and each side has a sliding arm attached to it.
The bottom arm gets lifted by the SMOT under water which takes little energy to do so because it is under water, while that happen the arm above which is outside the water slides and creates leverage, and that breaks free the armed stuck to the SMOT causing the wheel to rotate and the process repeats itself.
Might work who knows but it does sound pretty good to me and the idea seems plausible _at this time_. I could be wrong and would like some feed back.
If this idea does work it must be under the GPL/GNU license and should be "Copyleft".
Thanks :)
As arm (A) gets lifted by the SMOT under water, arm (C) gets to a horizontal position (maybe it will pass the horizontal position with momentum) and the arm begins to slide causing leverage and also since it is outside the water it is "heavier".
oh and it is a one-way wheel.
Hard to explain for me, hope the picture helps.
NOTE: The magnet is an approximate position.
NOTE: The water is an approximate level.
I think the magnet and water level should be a little higher.
One would have to build it and see just how much water is needed and where exactly the magnet should be placed.
I leave it up to you guys now to find out.
If I get the time and money I will build it to test it out, it shouldn't cost much anyway.
Thing is I don't have the tools or much time for testing.
Goodbye.
Quote from: Ghost on April 06, 2013, 07:59:43 PM
I think the magnet and water level should be a little higher.
One would have to build it and see just how much water is needed and where exactly the magnet should be placed.
I leave it up to you guys now to find out.
If I get the time and money I will build it to test it out, it shouldn't cost much anyway.
Thing is I don't have the tools or much time for testing.
Goodbye.
This cannot possibly work. The SMOT conveys no energy, which has been demonstrated a gazillion times, so nothing to be gained there. Flotation conveys no energy, as it costs just as much to enter the water as you get from the flotation lift. So where is the extra energy coming from?
Thanks for the feedback.
Arm (A) is not floating up but being lifted by the magnet.
When arm (A) reaches a tiny bit pass the horizontal position arm (C) slides causing leverage and causes arm (A) to break free from the magnet.
A weight being lifted under water is a lot easier.
So the magnet pulling the arm up doesn't have to be so strong opposed to being outside of water.
The extra energy comes from the shifting of the arm causing leverage.
The weight of the arm outside the water is a lot "heavier" than the arm stuck to the magnet underwater.
I think the input comes from the magnet pulling the arm and the extra output is from the "heavier" arm outside the water which should be heavy enough to break free the other arm from the magnet.
But hey I can't say I'm correct.
Ghost
So you try for the perfect storm..........?
Nice idea,a well timed slide hammer to cause rotation and break the magnetic wall!!
Don't let Eatinbarbeque upset you,perhaps if he just listens to the "Whatifs"??
He'll get some cool ideas when he's just sitting around thinking happy thoughts about how to Make the world a better place.
Thx for sharing your thought....
Chet
thanks ramset.
i wasn't really expecting much positive feedback well maybe a little.
i picture this idea working and it seems great but like many other ideas i had in the past looked good at first but then failed :(
so at this point i try not to get high hopes because it is very disappointing to fail but at least i learn from past mistakes.
i rather people tell me why it wont work rather than just tell me it doesn't work.
my dream is to discover free energy and share it with the world openly free of charge under the GPL license "copyleft".
So do you really think this idea can work?
oh and im not really sure what you meant by "So you try for the perfect storm..........?"
Ghost
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share it with the world openly free of charge under the GPL license "copyleft
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This part is the most important part,the Sincere intent to do as you describe above,
I believe things will start to happen more and more when men truly feel this way,and act accordingly!
As far as the perfect storm,a lot of "Learned" :o men who frequent these forums often Joke about a compilation of techs to achieve Over unity.
Myself I take this approach quite seriously
Hence the "Perfect storm' analogy..........
Do I believe your idea has merit ?
absolutely !!
will it drive you mostly Mad trying?.......
I hope not, you seem a good man with good intentions !
tHZ
Chet
thanks again and i appreciate your kind words.
peace
Quote from: Ghost on April 07, 2013, 10:29:41 PM
Thanks for the feedback.
Arm (A) is not floating up but being lifted by the magnet.
When arm (A) reaches a tiny bit pass the horizontal position arm (C) slides causing leverage and causes arm (A) to break free from the magnet.
A weight being lifted under water is a lot easier.
So the magnet pulling the arm up doesn't have to be so strong opposed to being outside of water.
The extra energy comes from the shifting of the arm causing leverage.
The weight of the arm outside the water is a lot "heavier" than the arm stuck to the magnet underwater.
I think the input comes from the magnet pulling the arm and the extra output is from the "heavier" arm outside the water which should be heavy enough to break free the other arm from the magnet.
But hey I can't say I'm correct.
So the whole essence of your hypothesis is that the SMOT will produce excess energy under water. Nothing else matters, as it is all gravity wheel/shifting lever stuff which has never worked.
So just make an underwater SMOT circle and see if that works. Nothing else is needed.
Of course just a smot alone underwater will not work. ::)
I don't think you fully understand my idea here.
It will have to wait until someone or I built it.
Quote from: Ghost on April 09, 2013, 02:10:17 AM
Of course just a smot alone underwater will not work. ::)
I don't think you fully understand my idea here.
It will have to wait until someone or I built it.
Just look at your idea. The only novelty is the underwater SMOT. The shifting levers do not create a perpetual imbalance, only a temporary one. Just refer to all the other plans for gravity wheels, and you will see yours is not any different. Submerging some of it in water makes no difference.
So just test your SMOT underwater, and if it works better, you have something. If not, then not.
@Ghost
It appears like what you want to do is leverage the buoyancy of the part-wheel under water to overcome the "sticky" point in the SMOT. That's a nice idea.
However, won't "energy" be lost when the wheel "arms" are forced underwater? --- oops! my bad. I went back a read a little closer your explanation and realized I wasn't following your idea completely.
Who knows if it would work ~ you'll have to try it. ;D
truesearch
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there is no buoyancy.
just magnet lifting the arm causing the wheel to turn to the point where the arm shifts its weight creating leverage outside the water.
try this:
1 magnet and some weight of metal.
say the magnet is not strong enough to lift the weight of metal.
now try the same thing but underwater.
you should get a different result and should be able to lift the weight.
Quote from: Ghost on April 09, 2013, 10:09:04 PM
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there is no buoyancy.
just magnet lifting the arm causing the wheel to turn to the point where the arm shifts its weight creating leverage outside the water.
try this:
1 magnet and some weight of metal.
say the magnet is not strong enough to lift the weight of metal.
now try the same thing but underwater.
you should get a different result and should be able to lift the weight.
I think you are missing something critical. The weight of the ball in a SMOT setup is not the problem. You could put a SMOT in zero gravity, and it would still not produce energy.