Qwert, the first reason
of why i can not publish on overunity.com
the info which would provoke the necessity
of intensive discussions
is that the posts which are revealing the Truth
are not defended from deleting from overunity.com forum,
from editing by admin, from locking.
Therefore i am repeating the second reason:
~OWN POSTS EDITING TIME SHOULD BE UNLIMITED..
for Humans.~
Topics should not be Locked
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?msg=1457 .
The third reason is inoperability of the global quoting format
on overunity.com .
That is why i am forced to place the quote in global format
at the bottom of my posts - to preserve the post layout.
In result no more than one global quote
can be displayed in a post on overunity com
(because there is only one bottom in a post..).
Hence the conversations on overunity.com
can be no more than primitive
which can not be adopted by Humans.
By the way, these three reasons do define
that overunity.com forum can not be a place
for the arrangement of important original posts
like inventions publications.
Do the invitations to private dialogues
instead of the public dialogues
really offense you ?
And here is the forth reason
of overunity.com forum weakness is revealed -
default smf does not defend the public dialogue topics
from third members' replies
unfortunately.
Quote from: Qwert
@gri, can you, please, reveal your secrets openly to the forum?
There are others (me) who would like this kind of info.
try this open source energy forum then:
www.OpenSourceEnergy.NET (http://hackersclub.net/opensourceenergy)
:)
Ghost, please globally quote this my post
in your ~Ghost to Admin~ topic on OpenSourceEnergy.NET forum
and try to explain Admin that the redirection
of OpenSourceEnergy.NET domain name to hackersclub.net
is an obstacle for registration on OpenSourceEnergy.NET forum.
Maybe he will refuse from such redirection.
Quote from: Ghost
try this open source energy forum then:
www.OpenSourceEnergy.NET
i showed http://www.overunity.com/13516/gri-to-qwert/msg360933/#msg360933 to Admin and
there should be no problem with registration on www.OpenSourceEnergy.NET
so what happens when you try to register? you get some kind of error?
I do not see your mentioned showing
in the list of recent posts there.
Try again please. Thank you.
Quote from: Ghost
i showed http://www.overunity.com/13516/gri-to-qwert/msg360933/#msg360933 to Admin
Oh, no. I did not even try to, yet.
Just there are Humans on the planet
who do not want to be associated with any sort of hackers.
So the obstacle is exclusively in the sequence of letters
'h', 'a', 'c', 'k', 'e', 'r' -
in the domain name of redirection destination.
Quote from: Ghost
and there should be no problem with registration on www.OpenSourceEnergy.NET
so what happens when you try to register?
you get some kind of error?
From the Admin.
"NOTE: OpenSourceEnergy.NEt is hosted by HackersClub.NET. For more info visit HackersClub.NET.
http://hackersclub.net/opensourceenergy/index.php?topic=2.0
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Please watch the front page video at www.HackersClub.NET.
Thank you :)
Why not to park the OpenSourceEnergy.NET
on hackersclub.net/opensourceenergy
?
Then edit Settings.php:
$boardurl = 'http://OpenSourceEnergy.NET';
and upload and browse repair_settings.php .
Quote from: Admin
NOTE: OpenSourceEnergy.NEt is hosted by HackersClub.NET.
it just keeps adding more register.com banners when you click on other links like Login or Register.
any by pass for that?
it was set back to the way it was.
it wont work because every link you click will keep directing to to the main page.
Compare the behavior with another free hosting.
Also i would like to have a look myself
if admin will put his hosting login details
to my PM on opensourceenergy.net forum.
(In case he is agree - i will register for this purpose specially.)
Quote from: Ghost
it just keeps adding more register.com banners
when you click on other links like Login or Register.
any by pass for that?
it wont work because every link you click will keep directing to to the main page of hackersclub.net/opensourceenergy
opensourceenegy.net is not hosted in the root of hackersclub.net web server.
so to set it up the way you asked will not work.
opensourceenergy.net is only a redirecting url that forwards to hackersclub.net/opensourceenergy
dont think the admin will give you access like that :)
Let he reply yes or no
in ~Admin to Gri~ topic on his forum.
Quote from: Ghost
dont think the admin will give you access like that
Quote from: gri on May 21, 2013, 03:42:40 PM
Let he reply yes or no
in ~Admin to Gri~ topic on his forum.
[quote="Ghost (http://www.overunity.com/msg/360960)/quot//]//
dont think the admin will give you access like that
http://hackersclub.net/opensourceenergy/index.php?topic=9.0
Thank you.
Please insert into http://hackersclub.net/opensourceenergy/index.php?msg=10
instead of your format of quote header:
(
gri from overunity.com (http://www.overunity.com/13516/gri-to-qwert/msg360953/#msg360953)
Quote from: gri
)
- the linked quote header similar to:
Quote from: gri
Why not to ..
Admin,
overunity.com forum currently
does not display correctly
the code of the global quote header
too (in code tags).
Therefore instead of the code tags
i was forced to replace the square brackets by the figure brackets
in the following sample for you -
just it could be displayed similar to a code.
While editing your post
you will have to replace the brackets back to the square ones:
{quote="{url=overunity.com/index.php?msg=360953}gri{/url}"}
Why not to
{/quote}
this is pointless
Admin,
the links on OpenSourceEnergy.NET
leading to another default smf forum
with topic identificator in the link
will become pointless
after moving of the originally linked post
to another topic.
To avoid the destroy of your forum integrity
exclude topic identificators from the sample links
please.
Quote from: Ghost
this is pointless
Admin,
i hope you did not forget
to create a Trash board
before removing of the ~Admin to Gri~ topic.
Now make the Trash board visible
for both members and guests
please.
If you forgot to
(because of incorrect Trash board settings in default smf)
then create the Trash board now at least.
Additionally create the board ~Dialogues with Admin~
where the topics like ~Gri to Admin~
will be created
or moved to (and from) by a topic Author.
Qwert,
the next additional reason
of why i am not publishing
the link to the X hoster -
are the words of X hoster support staff member
in support ticket system:
Quote from: X in support ticket system
you must not use others forums to contact us!
What is your opinion -
do those words restrict the perspective
of advertising the X hoster service
by Humans
?
gri, is english your second language or something?
i find hard to understand what you're saying at times.
a trash board? i think this is pointless as well.
if the admin deletes something it's because there is no need for it.
why keep useless topics in a trash board to take up even more space on the server?
we don't want that.
Ghost,
On a humanized forum
i would prefer to use partial quotes to comment them.
Overunity.com forum does not allow it.
Admin of OpenSourceEnergy.NET seems refused
to demonstrate the behavior of his forum
with partial global quotes in a post.
Hence please continue searching for another smf forum
where the posts with inventions were not being deleted
sooner than would have been understood.
I am telling that English is not my native language
instead of globally quote this statement
having been announced earlier on another great smf forum.
But the limit of global quotes in a post is exhausted.
If Admin thinks that irreversible deletion of the posts
is the better way to understand the posts mission
then the forum hardly can be humanized whenever.
The default Trash board can be used
to refuse from moderation at all.
It is the point. Not pointless.
Is Admin really worried about the server space
with a 10 posts on a forum ?
Fortunately, there were no my posts on remote forum,
otherwise my posts were deleted together with your deleted post.
Was your deleted post pointless, in your opinion ?
Quote from: Ghost
gri, is english your second language or something?
i find hard to understand what you're saying at times.
a trash board? i think this is pointless as well.
if the admin deletes something it's because there is no need for it.
why keep useless topics in a trash board
to take up even more space on the server?
we don't want that.
gri, we think we might understand you now. we apologize.
thank you for being patient with us.
http://hackersclub.net/opensourceenergy/index.php?topic=2.0
we are still unsure what you're saying about partial quotes and global quotes.
Ghost,
where are your Talkings ?
Were you talking face to face ? One to one ? In voice ?
Can your dialogue from the beginning
be moved to a public board of OpenSourceEnergy.NET forum ?
Quote from: Ghost
gri i talked to admin
do you mean to set the post settings to Remove nested quotes when quoting?
To understand the problem better
quote my post
with global format of quote header link
in your reply
and add your comment after the quote.
Quote from: Ghost
we are still unsure what you're saying about
global quotes.
Quote from: gri on May 23, 2013, 01:30:57 PM
To understand the problem better
quote my post
with global format of quote header link
in your reply
and add your comment after the quote.
[quote="Ghost (http://www.overunity.com/msg/361209)/quot//]//
we are still unsure what you're saying about
global quotes.
with global format of quote header link? what do you mean by this?
Quote from: Ghost on May 23, 2013, 01:49:28 PM
with global format of quote header link?
what do you mean by this?
The sample of global format of a quote header link
has been published quite before this your post:
Quote from: Ghost
this is pointless
so i guess you mean without time and date stamp from a quote?
ok
Other peculiarities are more essencial.
Full global url to the definite forum
and without topic identificator
is needed
instead of smf default local format
with the parameter like link=topic=.
ok so how would this be configured in smf?
manually somewhere in the code or is it a feature in the forum software?
and how does this help again?
Short format msg= (without topic= id)
helps to preserve the integrity (between quote and original post)
after default procedures of splitting and merging topics,
including splitting in result of deleting posts to the Trash.
Global format with forum domain name in the link
helps to erase the borders between forums
in common informational space of forums
with a set of grivitational mods installed.
Though short format operability was embedded since 2.0
nevertheless smf developers are still resisting
to include the ~freedom of moving posts~ feature
and ~global quoting~ feature
to the default smf.
At least the mods could be developed first
for both 2.X and 1.X versions.
To the contrary, some mods may prevent
the operability of the global quotes
like it is happening on overunity.com forum.
I assume it is PrettyURL mod.
Such forums are out of Grivitational Space.
Currently we are out of grivitational space
therefore it is almost impossible to construct
the samples of distributed defended dialogues
in winded topics on remote forums.
Further, after adding of the Trash board,
another topic like ~Admin to Gri~ is needed again
instead of the one deleted irreversibly
before the trash board creation.
Quote from: Ghost
and how does this help again?
ok so how would this be configured in smf?
manually somewhere in the code
or is it a feature in the forum software?
Sorry guys that I was the cause of this discussion; it's all just pure "greek" to me. I only understand that you both: Gri and Ghost are professionals rather than amateurs in a subject somewhat resembling Computer Science, I guess. So, please, don't address this conversation to me; I'm just unfit. :-\
Quote from: Qwert on May 23, 2013, 07:17:20 PM
Sorry guys that I was the cause of this discussion; it's all just pure "greek" to me. I only understand that you both: Gri and Ghost are professionals rather than amateurs in a subject somewhat resembling Computer Science, I guess. So, please, don't address this conversation to me; I'm just unfit. :-\
@ qwert lol don't feel bad, sorry for hijacking this topic i will leave it alone now :)
@ gri just pm me and lets go private. at this point there is no use to post here anymore regarding www.OpenSourceEnergy.net forum software. plus i'm getting a little frustrated trying to understand you, sorry.
other than that you guys can continue talking to each other, this is gri to qwert topic anyway lol.
goodbye :)
Qwert,
thank you for being the cause of my ~Gri to Qwert~ original topic
at overunity.com forum.
Can you just ignore others' replies to this topic
except those topic author's posts
which are being subtitled ~Gri to Qwert~ intentionally
or, if extra replies notifications are disturbing you,
should Ghost create since now
or as soon as possible
a separate topic ~Ghost to Gri~
to branch our further micro-dialogue with Ghost to there ?
In last case don't you see the more appropriate board
for the public topics of Dialogue type ?
Quote from: Qwert
Sorry guys that I was the cause of this discussion;
it's all just pure "greek" to me.
I only understand that you both: Gri and Ghost
are professionals rather than amateurs
in a subject somewhat resembling Computer Science, I guess.
So, please, don't address this conversation to me;
I'm just unfit.
I have NO objection at all for your conversation, guys. I don't feel bad at all about that situation; I just won't take part in this adventure, simply b'coz I don't know the subject and/or, to be more precise, I'm not aware of the subject's terminology.
But, I believe, there are people (including me) who can learn somewhat from this conversation, anyway.
Qwert,
continue a dialogue with Gri
from this point please:
Quote from: gri
Qwert, the first reason