Well the discovery is a few years old
http://revolution-green.com/2013/08/06/magnetic-monopoles-unobtainium-and-magnetic-motors/ (http://revolution-green.com/2013/08/06/magnetic-monopoles-unobtainium-and-magnetic-motors/)
I doubt i twill create the discussion yesterdays story did
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The monopole magnet is an interesting subject. Many say"if we only had a monopole magnet,we would have perpetual motion or a self running machine". When i ask them how a monopole magnet would work,where a dipole magnet would not-they can never answer,or draw a design of such a machine. Having a monopole magnet would make no difference at all,in being able to make a self runner. You would still have two repelling pole's or two attracting pole's.
Nothing can be achieved with a monopole that cant be achieved with a dipole.
I personally don't see that a "monopole" magnet is what we need. It seems to me that the "missing-link" that we need to ever accomplish a true magnetic-motor-self-runner is a magnetic "shield". Something that could be used to REALLY focus the lines of force (ie field) to a laser-fine focal point. Until this is possible it seems to me that we will always "fight" the sticky-point at the gate.
truesearch
@Tinman and Truesearch
I think your both probably right, I was being hypothetical...like a monopole working with a normal magnet.
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Is not the essence of magnets that they have lines of force.
How can a monopole have lines of force? Where will they go to?
The sticky point has been eliminated in my magnet motors. In fact, that is why they work so well and are so efficient. http://www.dynamaticmotors.com (http://www.dynamaticmotors.com)
Experimenters tend to think they can only use magnets or they don't have anything. The truth is, you should use whatever is available to make the best motor you can for the highest efficiency.
everybody thinks its the sticky-point that is a giant hurdle but actualy its the choice of materials being magnetized.the right materials will use the energy in passing a sticky point to its own advantage under right circumstances.a sticky point can be ones friend instead of foe.
I do agree that the forces at play at the "sticky-point" can be used differently to limit the problem and that efficiency can be greatly improved with the proper design.
However, unless I missed the announcement :) we still do not have a self-runner magnetic motor that can produce usable energy for mechanical output or electrical generation that exceeds the energy/power it takes to product the action.
If anyone has a real, working design that can prove otherwise, please share it.
sincerely,
truesearch
Quote from: truesearch on August 06, 2013, 01:00:42 PM
I do agree that the forces at play at the "sticky-point" can be used differently to limit the problem and that efficiency can be greatly improved with the proper design.
However, unless I missed the announcement :) we still do not have a self-runner magnetic motor that can produce usable energy for mechanical output or electrical generation that exceeds the energy/power it takes to product the action.
If anyone has a real, working design that can prove otherwise, please share it.
sincerely,
truesearch
I have considered writing a book (selling it for profit), with the technical information, so that the information could be shared, and I could recover my investment as well, in this endeavor. This might help better fund me (so I can work on the project) and my generator project.
Liberty
Not to "nit pick" you, so please forgive me for saying that magnets do not have lines of force.
The describing of magnetic force through the use of the convention (agreement). For example (flux density as the number of lines of force within a specific area), while being a very useful description or tool for comparing one "density" to another, or no density at all, is at the same time a potentially confusing and misleading concept.
Magnetic force might be described in terms of direction, or polarity, (for example in relationship to a measuring device) and this direction like a vector is a kind of line. But a line, at least in this instance, that is also, only a useful convention. Not a real line, the way that a piece of string stretched between two points, is a real line. Arbitrarily, (by agreement) a standard of how many "lines" and how they curve away from a magnetic source, and so "diverge and become less dense or fewer in number within a given area" gives a model that as you know, predicts or describes magnetic field behavior. But when we describe a piece of lumber as being 2 inches by 4 inches by 10 inches, we don't believe that the lumber is actually composed of something called inches.
On the other hand, it seem to me that those who have engaged in considerable design work in fields like coil or electric motor design, etc., while they are aware of the fact that magnetic lines of force are only a convention, have conditioned their thinking into this convention. such that it is almost as if it were not just a convention. This, because it is such a usable and convenient convention.
After all, isn't magnetism like light and radio waves, photons. But photons which are behaving in an observably magnetic manner. If you see my point.
Sorry for sort of rambling on, after all I could be wrong about all this.
Quote from: truesearch on August 06, 2013, 10:42:12 AM
I personally don't see that a "monopole" magnet is what we need. It seems to me that the "missing-link" that we need to ever accomplish a true magnetic-motor-self-runner is a magnetic "shield". Something that could be used to REALLY focus the lines of force (ie field) to a laser-fine focal point. Until this is possible it seems to me that we will always "fight" the sticky-point at the gate.
truesearch
A magnetic shield and a monopole magnet are synonymous. You cannot shield magnetism because the lines of force always link up between the poles. Producing a shield by breaking that symmetry would be the same thing as producing a monopole magnet.