There are 13 battery start ups listed in this story, should be good for many of the battery researchers here to see what the market is up to.
http://revolution-green.com/2013/09/12/batteries-energy-game-changer/ (http://revolution-green.com/2013/09/12/batteries-energy-game-changer/)
Kind Regards
Mark
This link keeps looping into an "error report" everytime I try to View it here in the northeast USA
The Link starts to manifest and then an "error" report removes the page?
I noticed this happened with another Link of yours on the Keppe / Brad challenge ?
Are any of these Batteries working along the lines of the Thorium Type?
thx
Chet
No thorium ones there
will check out the link problem
mark
The Nickel-Iron batteries would seem to last a lifetime, if the life of a Nickel-Iron battery was tripled we would be passing them down three generations.
Leaving them to people in our Will and Testaments. But they are high Mass batteries, I realize that and certainly no good for anything that moves.
But for off grid or especially hybrid grid tie - battery bank solar setups.
Molten salt is already used for energy storage but thermal energy, is that classed as a battery ? Is it true that a Battery can be a series of energy storage cells or potential energy storage cells other than electro-chemical type things ? I mean if the potential is stored in the electric field then it's a capacitor a series of capacitors joined in a permanent group is a "battery" of capacitors.
We need to clear up the terms to their true meaning so people don't confuse each other.
So does any battery of cells of any kind of energy storage count as a battery. I think the future is in "mega capacitors" so as not to leave behind the toxic remains of these toxic metal batteries for ever.
I envision a mega capacitor which is built kinda like a poly-aluminium multi sheet capacitor but made from advanced low toxicity materials and formed into a "battery" of capacitors depending on the intended use.
I'm not keen on any battery which does not lower the toxicity of the materials used.
The aluminium Magnesium battery seems like a good Idea but how stable is the magnesium ? Could it be dangerous, or if a container ship full of cars with the batteries sank would it pollute the ocean, these are the things that concern me. Toxic materials being built into everything.
Cheers
@farmhand
Your are right about the terminology, their spin doctors get things mixed up.
The Capacitor (I gave up on EEstor) I liek the most and think has the most potential is this one
http://revolution-green.com/2013/08/02/graphene-based-super-capacitor-breakthrough/ (http://revolution-green.com/2013/08/02/graphene-based-super-capacitor-breakthrough/)
Kind Regards
How I see the energy future:
What we need is a non toxic battery which lasts a long time (million time charging/ discharging, mechanically sturdy) and with a reasonable capacity.
The rest is energy saving. We have to get used to the idea that energy will be expensive and that every individual has to use less. The rich will have much more energy than the poor.
Energy saving which will happen:
- the LED light follows people around the house or office, and is switched off else where
- the refrigerator has to become a lot smaller
- no deep freezer (canned and dried food instead)
- much less travel by car, more public transport (only the rich can drive cars every day)
- only the living room is heated during the waking hours in winter and to a lower temperature (better clothes have to be worn, better insulation of houses)
- no air conditioning in summer (better natural ventilation and shading)
- the gadgets (e.g. mobile phone which is everything also TV and recording device) use less energy and are charged by alternative power sources like solar and vibration (from your movements)
- the power grid has at least a loss of 50% (resistance of the wires and inductive losses), therefore the electricity has to be generated near the place where it is used
Of course, the rich (about 2% of world population) will have enough energy but most of the people will have very little from batteries and crude devices (like pedal power).
You will enjoy a smart phone (which uses very little energy which you provide at your home from a small solar cell, small wind generator, pedal power device) in a rather dark and cold/hot and very small house or flat. You will commute in a crappy public transport where it is dangerous (mugging by your fellow citizens). Go to big cities in the Third World to experience this life style right now. May be New York, Paris and London can provide that way of life largely today.
Welcome to the future,
Conrad
We have to differ : on/off grid battery systems
On grid I prefer the iron-air battery solution,cheap and abundant materials !
For home use weight (50Wh/kg)will not make any trouble !
Off-grid there are actually some different solutions and what we know is that for 2020 the KWH-costs from these lithium/magnesium/aluminium/zinc....cells will fall
under the 200US$-limit (McKinsey-study/outlook)
And yes,
@ conrad is allright ;)
freezer as refrigerator http://mtbest.net/chest_fridge_1.pdf (http://mtbest.net/chest_fridge_1.pdf)
LEDs
warmwater by friction or heat pump
room heating with efficient heat systems
kitchen appliances with energy saving heat conductors and efficient VSD-motors
Sincerely
CdL