When I was young and looking at the 1969 Moon landing
I already thought, man, how can they film so well the
departure from the moon, when the spacecraft went up
from the moon, also no rocket fire to see ,
when lifting up....
These things make you go : hmmm hmmmmm
http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=894918671346019149
Yes, even with a drive without ?fires?, one must by repels a dust cloud with the start to expect.
Yes, and who filmed this "perfect start" from the moon surface so smoothly ?
Did they really have some kind of "remote controll" for the camera ?
Yes, no sand dust cloud from the rocket exhausts and the moon probe looks like it is being
pulled up by an invisibile thread... !
What a great fake ! ;)
Question is, where have the astronauts really been in the meantime ?
Just shuttling and going around the earth ?
Stanley Kubrick' make the moon video.
BTw. we have moon base but the its not related to nasa, its more related to the black project :)
One thing that some astronomers like doing is seeing the old equipment that they left on the moon reflect. They know where the equipment was left and knowing the location of the Sun, Moon, and Earth they can know when it will reflect. :-)
Paul Lowrance
yes, but to my knowledge it has not yet be seen on the moon, or am I wrong ? is there any conclusive Photo maybe from Hubble telescope, that can prove this and not just a few easy to fake white dots ?
I think you're right Stefan. There's nothing as conclusive as moon photos taken from Earth, as far as I know. What about moon rocks that the science community has studied.
Paul Lowrance
I remember reading that the EU moon probe was suppose to take clear pictures and "finally put an end to all the conspiracy theories." But that date has come and gone. haha I searched the website - but no pictures are there.
There's a video on google that is original NASA footage - showing the astronauts from Apollo 11 in low earth orbit on the date (timestamped) that they should have been half-way to the moon. It also shows them faking a shot using a paper template on the window to look like they are viewing the earth from a distance.
You can see the first try... and then you can see them do it and hear mission control talking to them about the view from a distance.
You can also hear a "third voice" telling them when to talk... I assume it was to fake the delay.
It's a long piece of film... but they plainly are telling NASA they are half-way... and the date would agree... but then they take the paper off the window and turn on the interior light and you can see that they are just above the earth.
Someone who was researching - actually trying to prove that they did go - and stumbled upon the film at NASA.
He did a film called - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon - in which he explains where he got the film and what it shows.
Then he did a film called - Astronauts Gone Wild - where he interviews the moon mission astronauts and shows them the film... and asks about the effects of cosmic radiation... All I can say about this one is to watch it yourself - they start sweating and stuttering... obviously lying.
Either of these films is on google - if not, I will put them on my website for anyone who wants to see them.
Dark Side of the Moon is a good film - and based on the testimony of Kubrick's widow and Nixon's secretary... BUT... he pieces together interviews with Rumsfield and Kissinger and that crew to make it seem like they are admitting it. His premise is that you can prove anything with video... like the moon hoax... but personally I think it discredits people who have real evidence.
Let me know and I'll upload and link for you. :) I have alot of bandwidth sitting idol :)
As for me - I don't "think" we didn't go to the moon... I KNOW for a FACT that we did not go to the moon. :D
Forget arguing over shadows... no hole under the lander... no dust on the "feet" of the lander... the flag waving... no stars... whether or not they could have carried enough equipment for oxygen and climate control... whether film would survive the van allen belt or the heat and cold...
Here are the Apollo 11 astronauts pretending to be half-way to the moon when they are actually in low earth orbit.
http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-73731341583788062&q=moon+shot+faked
It's also interesting to note - These are the same neo-facists who had the security-clearance to pull off 9/11.
oh yeah... these are also the same evil bastards that were put into power when JFK was murdered... coincidence?
Everytime you smell smoke - these same people are fleeing the scene.
This is the most interesting documentation I have seen so far on this topic:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5737681932896358451
Here's the part 1 for that - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1913474363747128107&q=what+happened+on+the+moon&hl=en
and it includes the NASA footage of apollo 11 faking the half-way shot that I linked to earlier.
This should be front page news.
Here you can see, how the astronauts were helped
to jump "on the moon" via wires:
http://www.disclose.tv/viewvideo/523/Moon_Landing_Hoax___Wires_Footage/
maybe the earlier manned missions were faked.
but if all are faked .. then there is the question of how there is a tape of the non-human ship on the moon that was supposed to be taped from a manned mission.
there were 6 unmanned missions, so that explains all the telemetry and photography.
devilzangel
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sending a shuttle over the moon is probable, but landing on them using this shuttle or part of it was probably fake at least at the begining
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This makes more sense to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khDI2MsWSYc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khDI2MsWSYc)
If there is a conspiracy though, I'd say it's to conceal what's on the moon and what the astronauts saw when they were there and on their way there.
Les.
Quote from: lwh on May 28, 2007, 06:20:36 PM
This makes more sense to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khDI2MsWSYc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khDI2MsWSYc)
If there is a conspiracy though, I'd say it's to conceal what's on the moon and what the astronauts saw when they were there and on their way there.
Les.
ok after watching just half of that vid, i had to turn it off. the explanations and the scientific reasoning of those explanations is bogus.
1. "the new theories get more and more outlandish as there old theories are disproved" .. so far i have NOT seen a single documentary (the above is the worst i have seen) that even CLEARLY debunks certain smoking gun evidence that the theorists believe.
A. no stars .. ok yes, of the exposure was set low, fainter objects in space would show black. BUT the moon doesnt have an atmosphere, thus the stars would be far easier to see or capture since there is no atmosphere for the star light to pass through. .. it is odd that NONE of the moon missions set up a telescope OR change the camera exposures to get pics of the stars .. why? .. also when the astronauts were asked if they SAW stars, they were moot on the issue or said no. what?? no??? telling me the human eye cant adjust to the exposures??? LOL
B. no dust on the pads .. you don't need air to bellow dust!!! .. the module uses thrusters!!! .. these apply pressure onto the moon surface!! .. how do u think the rocket even got to the moon in the first place?? the space between Earth and moon doesn't have air does it???? the rockets and modules produce artificial thrust.
C. Allen Belts .. this is very easy for NASA to debunk .. they just have to publish the telemetry data of radiation (EM) levels that would be recorded throughout the path from earth to moon. Just as the Earth has a EM field shield, the modules should also have the same technology of artificially producing a EM field around it to trap the radiation in a safe way. Furthermore, the radiation dosage could also be measured by examining the astronauts after they got back.
D. a drunk man's motion is unnatural at any speed. the astronauts trained for years.
E. Sand print .. the best way to conclusively proof this is to use the SAME type of boots!!! .. I can go to the beach and prove that my shoes that DONT have such deep treads STILL leave very nice prints in the sand! .. furthermore the sand that was used for the supposed moon hoax could very well have been manufactured very easily. any geologist will laugh when they see the above vid. I have first hand experience of metal made into such a fine powder that even though it is so fine, it wont cause dust clouds, and will fall to the surface pretty fast due to its weight.
i am not saying i think all moon missions were false, i am believing the first 1 or 2 were false.
devilzangel
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